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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:59 AM
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Snow: Intense New Levels Of Violence In Iraq Are ‘Signs Of Success’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/14/snow-success/

Snow: Intense New Levels Of Violence In Iraq Are ‘Signs Of Success’

The Pentagon yesterday released its first quarterly report assessing President Bush’s escalation strategy, confirming that overall levels of violence in the country actually “increased throughout much of Iraq in recent months,” as attacks “shifted away from Baghdad and Anbar” and into “cities and provinces that had been relatively peaceful before the Bush administration’s troop buildup.”

Political reconciliation has almost entirely stalled, suicide bombings “more than doubled” from January to April, sectarian deaths have increased beyond pre-escalation levels, and U.S. troop deaths are spiking.

During his press briefing yesterday, White House spokesman Tony Snow said the increasing chaos was a positive sign. The new levels of attacks “fit a pattern that we see throughout the region,” he said, “which is that when you see things moving towards success, or when you see signs of success, that there are acts of violence.” Watch it and read transcript at link~

Also yesterday, Snow sharply downplayed the importance of the September Iraq report from top U.S. commander Gen. David Petraeus. Just last month, President Bush said September would be an “important moment” in the war because “Petraeus says that’s when he’ll have a pretty good assessment as to what the effects of the surge has been.”

Yesterday, Snow described Petraeus’ report as merely a “first opportunity” to “have a little bit of a metric” to “see what happens when you have all the forces in place for the Baghdad security plan.”
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:00 AM
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1. Less violence = success. More violence = success. I smell a winner either way!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:02 AM
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4. It IS all about how you frame it!
:crazy:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:05 AM
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5. Which is exactly why the "Keep the powder dry" Cave-O-Crats that continued funding for the war..
Edited on Thu Jun-14-07 10:05 AM by truebrit71
...are going to have their asses handed to them in September when Patreus makes his report. Or are they stupid enough to belive that he will say that the 'Surge' was a failure and validate the Cave-O-Crats stupid posturing after backing down to the Chimperor?

Damn the facts, damn the statistics and damn your lying eyes, the surge will be called a success NO MATTER WHAT, and the Cave-O-Crats will continue to have the driest powder in history...Fucking useless bunch of blowhards... :eyes:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:01 AM
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2. Did we expect anything else?
Bush says it all the time

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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:01 AM
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3. War is peace. Losing is winning. Lies are truth.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:05 AM
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6. To Tony: Strap on a helmet boy, and get yerself to the 'success'!
Take the twins and the Cabinet with ya! Make sure the chimp and Dead-Eye-Dick are along! Don't forget Joe and all the guys in the media who helped sell this SUCCESS. You all worked SO hard for this SUCCESS! Go, enjoy it!

:grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:06 AM
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7. Rephrasing Dick Cheney's delusional "last throes" philosophy. n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:07 AM
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8. Yep, and just like their playbook, "1984" don't forget that *Ignorance is Strength!* ?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:13 AM
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9. Of course we're making progress and showing signs of success.
We'll be doing that right up until January 21st 2009. Then (at the precise moment a Democratic President is sworn in) the whole thing will fall apart and be the Democrats fault.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:13 AM
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10. Didn't Bush say that same thing about 3 years ago?
The more violence there is, the more successful they are, because the increased violence meant the insurgents were increasingly desparate.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:15 AM
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11. Custer says that all those Indians being stirred up is a good sign.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:15 AM
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12. How comforting to now ...
that Tony's cancer therapy hasn't affected his shit-brain philosophy.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:32 AM
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13. I think they've used that one before. For the last few years...

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/kristol-worried/

Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol said on Fox News this morning that the recent surge in Iraqi violence is a sign that the extremists are “worried.” Kristol said, “If I were a Sunni extremist and was worried, which I would be, about a doubling of U.S. forces in Baghdad, what would I do? I would try to convey an impression of chaos.”

He added, “On the whole over the last two weeks, some of the news for Iraq is slightly optimistic.”

http://media.www.michigandaily.com/media/storage/paper851/news/2006/01/13/News/Military.Expect.Increased.Iraqi.Violence-1434043.shtml

"As democracy advances in the form of election results and government formation, and as the military pressure continues, and the pressure generated by political progress increases, we expect more violence across Iraq," Alston said at a news briefing. - U.S. Brig. Gen. Donald Alston

MAY 30, 2005: Dick Cheney: Insurgency in its “last throes”

I think they’re in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency


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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:34 AM
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14. Their definition of success is chaos and mass-murder; So in that respect, he's right.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:35 AM
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15. Operation "Whack-A-Mole" a success....nt
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:51 AM
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16. Question for Mr. Snow
How can you live with yourself, Tony?
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