Mrs. Billy Graham just expired.

[karlrschneider]

no link, was on the M$NBC crawl...

[Book Lover]

1. I hope her passing was peaceful (nm)

[Dorian Gray]

48. me too

I'm sure the family is very sad. :(

Any word on how it happened?

[wildhorses]

2. my condolences to the family.

thanks for posting this.

[tblue]

3. 'Expired'? Is that what it's called now?

A gallon of milk, a credit card, a drivers license expires. I'm sorry. It just sounds like she went rancid or something.

But I am very sorry for Mrs. Graham and condolences to the Reverend.

[karlrschneider]

4. It's a common euphemism for "died". Has been for a century.

:eyes:

[Zomby Woof]

18. You still buy into the death taboo?

Call death for what it is, death.

Euphemisms seek to obscure meaning, and keeps the misplaced hang-ups about death at bay.


and :eyes:

[karlrschneider]

24. I have no taboos. It was simply the first word that came to mind.

Okay she's fucking DEAD.

:eyes:

[tblue]

27. Oh geez. Be cool. It's okay. Call it what you want. It just struck me as odd. I'm sorry she died

I don't know the first thing about her, but I believe her husband was the genuine article, unlike some of the shyster preachers that are always in the news.

[supernova]

29. "Expired" is the medical term

When you die in a medical setting, the MD writes in your chart "Patient expired at ..... (time of death).

Just FYI. :hi:

[Oeditpus Rex]

28. Notice how many obits say stuff like

"went to his final reward" and "was called home by the lord"?

When I wrote 'em, everybody died. I could verify that they died, but I couldn't verify any of that other stuff.



"Mr. Christ? Yeah, Dave at the Free Lance. Hey, you get a guy named Ralph Mellish up there on Tuesday? Okay, did you call him, or...?"

[tblue]

52. You wrote obits? Oh here's another one I heard from Johnny Carson:

"Making a call from the horizontal phone booth"

I mean no disrespect. I'm sorry about the passing of who I am sure was a fine woman. It's just 100+ degrees in this room and I, along with my mind, am melting.

[Horse with no Name]

5. Rancid hasn't happened quite yet. EOM

[ChazII]

6. Expired is better

than 'kicked the bucket'. :D May she rest in peace,

[Blue-Jay]

7. Would you prefer "bought the farm"?

Maybe she's pining for the fjords.

[TwilightGardener]

9. Off-topic, but I love that avatar of yours. In my house, if you say the word

"squirrel!", my Weimaraner gets the same expression that Chimpy has in that photo, before tearing around the house and looking out the windows towards the oak trees.

[ikojo]

10. What about "dirt napping?"

I encountered the term expired being used for death in the 1980s when I was processing health insurance claims.

[tblue]

25. Oh geez. You are funny! Expired doesn't offend me, but it has a ring of sterility to it.

As if it's a kinder, gentler way to say the 'D' word. Sorta like Nazi 'resettlement' and 'special treatment.'

btw: Johnny Carson once called it 'Driving the wooden chariot.'

[TwilightGardener]

31. Actually, you're right about the "ring of sterility"--it's the preferred medical term

when someone dies.

[ChazII]

43. or as in the

communist camps 'to be re-educated'.

[MichaelHarris]

33. I'm a big fan

of the word croaked.

[FloridaJudy]

45. She's not dead, she's just moulting

But I still feel sorry for her family. The Reverend Graham and I disagree on more than a few issues, but the loss of a long-time spouse is painful. My condolences.

[badgerpup]

47. With her family...

I'd say "Joined the bleedin' choir invisible".
Just seems like a religious reference to me...:shrug:

I hope she went peacefully.

[geomon666]

8. Gone rancid?

Give it a couple of days.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

14. It's Been Called That For Ages. But Don't Let That Stop You From Being Petty.

:eyes:

My thoughts and prayers go out to the family as well.

[tblue]

22. Having a bad day?

Who's petty? I's just sayin'. I never knew a human being could be 'expired.'

[Gormy Cuss]

16. Really? It's a formal way to say someone died.

Meaning breathed out (for the last time.)

[Oeditpus Rex]

32. She has passed on!

She has ceased to be! She's a stiff! Bereft of life, she rests in peace! If you 'adn't nailed 'er to the cross, she'd be pushin' up the daisies! She's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible! This... is an ex-Mrs. Graham!

[Ghost in the Machine]

39. She kicked the bucket and is now ready to be planted in the skull orchard

better??....

Thats what my dad says.. "when it's time to plant me in the skull orchard..."

[ChazII]

44. Smiles

Never heard that one. Skull orchard has a nice ring to it. One problem for me, do the skulls hang? :D

[Ghost in the Machine]

54. I always see them on pikes in my mind... n/t

[Perky]

40. Alright People enough with this subthread you are not 10 years old!!!

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. I am sorry to hear that. I would not be surprised if the Rev followed soon after.

He is not at all in well health.

[Blue-Jay]

12. ummmm....

http://www.woodwardnews.net/obituaries/local_story_159132345.html

[helderheid]

17. Wow! I hadn't heard. How did I miss that??

[Lone_Star_Dem]

20. Don't feel bad

He's not dead. That's a different person.

His statement issued over his wifes death:

``Ruth was my life partner, and we were called by God as a team,'' Billy Graham said in a statement. ``No one else could have borne the load that she carried. She was a vital and integral part of our ministry, and my work through the years would have been impossible without her encouragement and support.

``I am so grateful to the Lord that He gave me Ruth, and especially for these last few years we've had in the mountains together. We've rekindled the romance of our youth, and my love for her continued to grow deeper every day. I will miss her terribly, and look forward even more to the day I can join her in Heaven.''

[GreenPartyVoter]

41. well, ok

[Madspirit]

13. My Dad

My dad made it 14 months after my mom died and then died of a massive heart attack the day he sold the house they had shared. He had no history of heart problems.
Lee

[MnFats]

15. kinda like Johnny and June Carter Cash...only not as interesting a couple.

no disrespect intended, Lord.

[GreenPartyVoter]

42. He is/was friends with MLK and Jimmy Carter. That makes all right with me.

[friendly_iconoclast]

50. He also helped desegregate the schools in Charlotte, NC

I know. I was in third grade in 1968 there. Can't say it united the communities, but I had African-American classmates. This was done without the riots and white flight that later plagued Boston.

[AZBlue]

19. Rest In Peace, Ruth.

[Canuckistanian]

21. Gee, I hope no one "pulled the plug" n/t

[juajen]

51. Actually, they did.

Also, there was a family feud about where both of the elder Grahams would be buried. Franklin was insistent they be buried in Charlotte, SC where the Billy Graham museum was built. Ruth hated the "Disney-like atmosphere" at the museum and wanted desperately to rest in peace in their beloved mountains at a retreat she and Billy had built about 15 miles from their beloved home in Montreat, NC. The whole family was divided and there were major arguments and divisiveness.

She had been very ill for some time and eventually the family felt it was time to let go. Food and medication were then withheld; she fell into a deep coma and died.

I'm sure this will not be the end of this controversy. The author, Patricia Cornwell, wrote a biography of Ruth and they remained close. Cornwell appeared on Good Morning America and discussed the controversy. She told the GMA viewing audience that Ruth hated the museum and did not want to be buried there. I'm sure that she did not get her wish, but her son, Franklin, did. He is now the head of the Graham ministries.

Sorry, I don't remember the link, but googling should give you this and more information.

[Canuckistanian]

53. Interesting - She died the same way Terri Schiavo did.

Funny, I don't remember any emergency bills in Congress about this.

Oh, and lookie what I found on Yahoo Answers -

What's the difference between Michael Schiavo and Billy Graham in pulling out their wives' feeding tubes?

Yesterday, Ruth Bell Graham lapsed into a coma, suffering complications from pneumonia. Earlier this week, with a doctor's approval, Rev. Graham and several of the children, including Franklin, decided to withdraw the solids and liquids from her feeding tube.

When Michal Schiavo decided to have the feeding tubes pulled out to let his wife die, the radical Christians and the Right Wing Media were raising hell. Now that Rev. Graham and his children are promoting faster death for Mrs. Graham, the same radical Christians remain as quiet as church mice.

http://sg.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070613205838AADIRlf

[kestrel91316]

23. Well, actually, she died. The PZI insulin in my clinic fridge just "expired".

[Jack Rabbit]

26. .

My prayers for Dr. Graham's comfort.

[supernova]

30. Lovely JackRabbit

*Sigh*


I think I'll light a candle for Ruth tonight here as well.

[Taverner]

34. As an Athiest, let me raise a glass in her honor

No disrespect - we and her husband were from completely different worlds - but let me honor her in my way :)

[SalmonChantedEvening]

35. RIP

Deepest Sympathies to the Graham family

[WiseButAngrySara]

36. Best wishes and prayers for the family! ....n/t

[blondeatlast]

37. I hope it was calm and peaceful. nt

[Kurovski]

38. Rest in peace, and my heartfelt condolences to the family

and most especially to the Reverend Billy Graham.

[checks-n-balances]

46. She was a very kind and classy lady & will be missed

She was a relative of some family friends from way back who have said as much through the years. Their marriage & family have been very close. And as someone said upthread, agree with them or not, he's The Genuine Article, as was she. My condolences.

[DearAbby]

49. RIP

[LBJDemocrat]

55. Rest in peace, Mrs. Graham.

I'm glad to see many other DUers respect you as I do.

[StrongFRONT22]

56. why are you sympathetic to her

Is she no different from the other wacky rw'ers?

[Unrepentant Fenian]

57. How are they different ?

For one thing, Rev. Graham is strongly against mixing religion and politics, for another thing, I've heard that he's a Democrat and lastly, I'm convinced that Rev. Graham is no hypocrite. That's how they are different from most of the religious right.

[Raine]

58. She wasn't a RWinger

Billy Graham is a Democrat.