Susan 'strep throat' Estrich whines about poor Libby's sentence

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

And to think that this hack is the one that the synicate offers papers as a 'liberal replacement' for our dear departed Molly Ivins
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Scooter's Sentence
I suppose I should be pleased about the tough sentence handed down by Judge Reggie Walton, sentencing the vice president's former Chief of Staff Scooter Libby to serve 30 months in prison. After all, he's a Republican, and I'm a Democrat; I'm an opponent of the war, and he worked for one of its architects. I'm certainly no fan of his boss, Dick Cheney, one of the toughest hardball players to occupy the office of vice president. Former Ambassador Joe Wilson was practically gloating this morning when asked to comment on the sentence, declaring it a victory for the rule of law.

Maybe.

Having taught law for more years than I want to count anymore, and criminal law in particular, I know all the arguments about how the rule of law depends on everyone telling the truth, cooperating with criminal investigations, not trying to protect their bosses or those around them. I understand that people in high places have as much responsibility, or more, than the rest of us to follow the law and give their evidence, and that when they don't, their years of public service are no excuse.

Being chief of staff for the vice president is a bruising job, but also an exciting one. If Scooter Libby hadn't messed up, he'd be sitting pretty in a high-priced law firm right now, making a fortune not because his legal skills were better than anyone else's, but because his contacts and connections were. So with the good goes the bad; with the visibility goes the scrutiny; with the fame comes the price. Valerie Plame's career has been ruined. Why shouldn't his be?

The only problem here is that there was no underlying crime. The answer to the question Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald was initially appointed to investigate — had anyone violated the law in disclosing Ms. Plame's name in their effort to discredit her husband's criticism of the administration's war policy — was no. No one violated what we used to call the "Agents Law." Dick Armitage, the guy who admits he gave out her name in the first place, isn't facing time; nor are Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, or any of the reporters or news organizations who didn't hesitate to disclose her identity.
more:
http://www.creators.com/opinion/susan-estrich/scooter-s-sentence.html

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. No underlying crime?

On which planet?

[acmavm]

2. Jeeze, there will be shitloads of these pitiful articles claiming that poor

Scoots is being persecuted. I see being forced to listen to this shit as long as we do when a blue-eyed blond disappears, willingly or otherwise.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. If Susan Estrich has been teaching law for years,

how the hell is it that she can't figure out that perjury and obstruction of justice are, themselves, crimes? There doesn't have to be an "underlying crime"; if you lie under oath that IS the crime. You can lie to a grand jury or during a deposition ABOUT something that isn't a crime (i.e., getting a blowjob from an intern), but the lie itself is still a crime -- just ask all the ranting idiots who were after Clinton's ass about said blowjob, who claimed it was the perjury that warranted impeachment.

And, as Fitzgerald explained in the first place, Scooter's lies also constituted obstruction of justice because it prevented them from getting enough information about the alleged underlying crime to prosecute anybody for it. That's why they call it obstruction of justice, for god's sake! Duh!

What the hell is wrong with her? Can they disbar somebody for being dumb as a bag of hammers?

[Cha]

19. I guess not or susan estrich

and those "12 scholars who believed it was a close question", who Judge Reggie Walton said he "would not accept this brief from a first year law student", might have to have their licenses reviewed.


"Can they disbar somebody for being dumb as a bag of hammers?"

[TwilightGardener]

4. Geez, everyone's hearts are bleeding about this lying assclown possibly

serving a little time in the slammer, and here I've been guiltlessly hoping that he someday burns in hell for eternity, along with everyone else involved in that criminal cabal. Wow, I guess I need to ratchet it down a notch, huh?

[Cha]

20. Up is down, straight is crooked..

the jerko cons are bleeding from the place their hearts should be and the Progressives are celebrating some sort of justice for our country and The Wilsons!

[TwilightGardener]

21. It's so strange to me, where conservatives and their enablers (like Estrich, apparently)

choose to pour out their sympathies--not on the underpriveleged, not on the oppressed, not on the lowly soldiers who die doing their bidding, not on the sick who can't afford doctors, not on working joes just scraping by. No, on SCOOTER LIBBY. A priveleged, powerful man who, because of his own actions, was convicted of a crime by a jury of his peers. What stunted and twisted hearts, if they have them at all.

[Uben]

5. She said it herself

"The rule of law depends on everyone telling the truth." Libby lied, and that is the crime he is going to prison for. All he had to do was tell the truth.....but he chose otherwise, and is now suffering the consequences.

What part of that does she not understand. Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob. Libby lied about the outing of a CIA agent to investigators. He is not above the law. Either he tells the truth, or he goes to prison. He was well aware of that fact before he testified. He CHOSE to go to prison, plain and simple! Dumb choice, eh?

[AndyTiedye]

6. The Appearance of All These Pro-Pardon Pieces in the Press Are Part of the Package

The decision to pardon Scooter was made as soon as he was indicted.
The Repiglickin' media is smoothing the path for ** as always.

[ProSense]

7. It's

Bubblicious

[Kagemusha]

8. Obstruction of justice is the underlying crime for the perjury.

And Libby successfully obstructed justice to conceal the truth.

[Faygo Kid]

9. I gave her up for hopeless years ago. A creation of the media.

Susan Estrich is one of those "Dems" like Bob Shrum or the DLC leadership that is far more interested in sucking up to their Beltway crowd and getting face time on Fox News than they are in fighting for justice. It's a closed and narrow class thing; there are too many to name like this, but try David Broder, Tim Russert and Joe Klein as three more smug practitioners who are completely out of touch. It's up to us to stop this crew; don't look for help from the likes of Susan Estrich.

And Joe Wilson remains a hero of mine.

[Alexia Wheaton]

10. So lying was a crime for Bill Clinton but it's not a crime...

for a Republican to lie?

[karlrschneider]

11. Okay, if there was no crime, why did Scooter lie?

More to the point, why would he even NEED to?
:eyes:

[Warren Stupidity]

12. "there was no underlying crime"

Ya know, the funny thing about this case, it is bringing out the true colors of many of those supposedly on our side. No crime. Poor scooter. After all there is just one wrecked intelligence network, one wrecked career, one fraudulent war, and one deliberate attempt to blunt an investigation into certain goings-on right at the heart of this disaster.

[muntrv]

13. As the repukes often reminded us during the Clinton impeachment trial,

it's about the perjury, not the sex.

[muntrv]

14. Another former prosecutor named Fred Thompson also says "no underlying crime"

for Scooter Libby.

[Cass]

15. How the hell does she know there was no underlying crime??

Doesn't she know what obstruction of justice means? And, if there was no underlying crime then why the hell did Scooter lie and obstruct justice?? For someone who brags about her law career she sure sounds like a dolt in this article.

:eyes:

[Cha]

16. Why the hell shouldn't Ambassador

Joe Wilson be "practically gloating" when commenting on scootie's sentence?..what's it to you, biatchhhhhhhhh?

The Wilsons' lives were turned upside down because the dickless cheneyhound from hell wanted revenge on Joe Wilson's OP ED in the NYT..revenge and attack before anyone put credence into what Joe Wilson said in that op ed. cheney couldn't let anything stop them from bombing Iraq.

People like susan estrich get paid for spouting this shyte? Doesn't she work at fauxnoise?

[antonialee839]

17. No underlying crime, let's count how many times

the bobble-heads parrot the phrase this week.

[LiberalHeart]

18. The underlying crime began with the Niger forgery.

Anybody investigating who came up with the idea for the forgery? Its purpose is clear, and what's also clear is who would have been best-served by that purpose (the same folks who would be most upset by Joe Wilson's debunking of the docs).

[ProSense]

22. Estrich also wrote:

The Case for Hillary Clinton

So much for her judgment! First Carville, now Estrich, who is next!

[FredScuttle]

23. Suzie Ostrich?

Fuck her....we need "Democrats" like her like we need a hole in the head

[rasputin1952]

24. Someone should remind her that Libby was convicted of

perjury and obstruction, something that every cpurt frowns upon...If I were the judge, I wold have tried to tack on another 5 years, tar and feathers and exile after sentence was served...perhaps exile to Gitmo would be an option...:evilgrin:

[bemildred]

25. Estrich is Carville in drag. nt

[Critters2]

26. Exactly. Another Clintonista who's confused about hir party affiliation nt

[TahitiNut]

27. It nauseates me how these people portray White House jobs like emptying bedpans.

All I hear is how thee people could earn more whoring for the corporations and how much we should have sympathy for these crony crooks who have to bear up under 6-figure salaries while they shovel out the taxpayer dollars to their wealthy 'base.'

Fuck you, Suzie!!

If these people aren't humbled and honored by being placed in a position of public trust in a democratic government then they should get the fuck out of my country!!!

I'm so fucking tired hearing about how the people of this country should kiss their entitled asses that they stoop to smear their slime trails all around D.C.

Fuck these elitist, narcissistic bastards!

:rant:

:grr: