Here's Why I Think So Many DC Insiders Are Freaked About Libby

[Me.]

He's them and they are him, all part of the same egg carton and what's happened to him is their nightmare come true. It could happen to them. They never thought it could. Why, why they're part of the in-crowd. They have power and influence. They're used to getting their way. This applies to publicans and any dem trash who have bemoaned poor Libby's fate. Life has suddenly taken on a reality and punched them in the eye.

[Norquist Nemesis]

1. Personally, I think it's much simpler than that

Blind Partisan Ideology syndrome

[Virginian]

16. Talking Points

Rove has issued the talking points that Scooter shouldn't go to jail because there was no underlying crime.
(Take that, Martha Stewart)

I'm sure everyone here has heard that one and all the others, like, she wasn't covert so she couldn't have been outed. They can get away with lying all they want because the CIA has not released the info for her to speak up for herself.

[NewJeffCT]

23. I hate when they let that talking point fly

There was an underlying crime! The outing of an undercover operative.

[annabanana]

24. And they only mention the perjury charge. . . It's the OBSTRUCTION

that makes imprisonment necessary. Maybe a month or two staring at the grey wall would get him to STOP OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE and give up his evil stonewalling ways...

[VP505]

2. I think your

right and the funny thing is that its their own guilt that causing them so much distress.

[Me.]

6. The Guilt Factor Is A Component Of It

Afraid they'll get caught. Especially now that the wind is shifting and the country seems to be majorly ticked off with all of them.

[EFerrari]

9. Bet me there are a lot of booked up priests in D.C. just now.

:)

[Me.]

13. Sucker's Bet

Too bad Falwell's gone.

[Generic Brad]

3. Apparently the aspens are turning the wrong way

At least to their liking.

[illinoisprogressive]

4. yep. it's the neocon cabel that is the most upset and libby was a big neocon.

[ChicagoRonin]

5. Perhaps they're like the Borg from "Star Trek"

If we stick one in jail, they'll all go in.

[annabanana]

25. I like it. .

(I get a visual of The Blob oozing into a jail cell. . all sparkly & lumpy)

[Star80]

7. Seems to me

any dem who bemoans Liebowitz's fate is less than a DINO if that is possible.

[hang a left]

8. I thought about this today also.

They are surrounding a fallen comrade. They expect the same should their asses find the same sling.

[frogcycle]

10. that, plus

they're assholes

[Edweird]

11. I thought falling on your sword was a part of the job.

I thought these guys are supposed to take the fall so the big ones don't have to.

[peacetheonlyway]

12. There's always a reckoning for the evil traitors of banana republic states

of which the US is now a banana republic.

whether hitler or milosevic or some two bit third world ogre. (no harm intended to my buddy shrek).

bottom line is that time and justice catches up to these villains.

and when the house of cards start falling, the whole house falls every last card (no harm , actually yes, harm intended to andy card)


but I think the next regime will house clean like you never saw housecleaning.

i think aspects of DNC and DLC are in for a housecleaning.

i think we will see a liberal backlash the likes of which will make the repukes go 'what the fuck happened to my mercedes and why is my company finally having to pay taxes'.

it's going to happen folks or else we'll have a collapsed economy.

biden is the man to clean up this mess.

[Me.]

14. Media Matters Did A Report

That says the country is trending progressive, not conservative. That's a myth, just like the one that states neo-cons can't be found guilty of crimes.

[liberalla]

20. Collapsed economy is VERY possible, if not likely.

It’s Official: The Crash of the U.S. Economy has begun

http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=139&a=2378

The article is very good. I attempted to select prime paragraphs to post but there were too many. I kept changing my mind... Anyway, I highly recommend reading the whole thing!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=114&topic_id=25523&mesg_id=25523

[MetaTrope]

15. Could also be that he'll be so smitten with his cellmate that he'll start boasting about his part in

9/11...which said cellmate can then promptly report back to the CIA. :thumbsup:

[Amonester]

18. Hey, the way they blamed the CIA for both 911 and the invisible WNDs

in Iraq, his cellmate will BE an "undecover" agent...

Methinks those who aren't totally corrupt or owned by the BFEE (yet) may still try to get "even" with them...

One can dream. :bounce:

[bleever]

17. The abstract becomes real, abruptly

and without any more courtesy than the rule of law, and its long, well-studied tradition affords.

How fair is that, for those who are Vulcans, masters of fire and war?

Tens of millions of people marched in the streets of cities across the world before this insane venture began.

We were not heard by the Vulcans then.

Suddenly, they have ears to hear.

[H2O Man]

19. Interesting thread.

There are a number of valid points being made here. I'll add something that is important to keep in mind: Scooter has been seen as a leader among the republicans and conservative democrats. If we think of the administration as a sports team, Libby is the "quiet man" who always came through with the big plays, and didn't mind the media giving the credit to his best friend, Dick.

The neoconservatives are using the media now to play the silly "Scooter was a minor player" bit. But it conflicts with the Scooter that Team Libby wanted the jurors to hear about. He was no minor player, and we should confront every effort (including those on DU) to pretend that "little Scooter" was sacrificed like a lamb to satisfy angry democrats.

The guy co-authored a "defense" policy in 1992, with Paul Wolfowitz, that was a "classified blue-print intended to help 'set the nation's direction for the next century'," according to Bart Gellman from the Washington Post. Joe Biden called it a blueprint for a "Pax Americana." It was withdrawn and "forgotten" during the Clinton years, but became an official US policy in 2002.

Also, as Woodward pointed out in "Plan of Attack," Libby held a "trifecta of positions" that no single person had ever held in an administration before. "Scooter was a power center unto himself, and accordingly, a force multiplier for Cheney's agenda and views." (page 48)

It was Libby who went with VP Cheney (and, at times, Newt Gingrich) to the CIA headquarters to try to use force to multiply that Cheney agenda. In the July 25, 2005 edition of TIME, we read where a CIA analyst says, "I know the analyst who was subjected to withering questioning on the Iraq--al-Qaeda links by Libby with the Vice President sitting there." (page 29)

And it was Scooter Libby who, along with Cheney, was the moving force behind the operation to damage Joseph Wilson and destroy the group that Valerie Plame worked with in 2003. When others like Rove, Fleischer, and Armitage were not getting the required results, Libby undertook what others said were a "Libby black-op" and began leaking to Judith Miller.

When the investigation began, the OVP/WHIG/OSP believed they had covered it up completely. Wilson quotes a "senior administration official" telling a journalist that they had brought in "earthmovers" to cover their tracks. It was Rove, and his quote found its way into print a couple weeks before Patrick Fitzgerald took over the case.

The neoconservatives and their pals in Washington never thought that anyone, except possibly Karl Rove, was at risk. And Karl, though high-profile, can not be seriously compared to Libby in terms of power.

Washington was in shock to see Mr. Fitzgerald destroy their powerful team leader, Libby.

[DemReadingDU]

21. While Libby is getting his affairs in order

During the next 6-8 weeks, do you think Libby will plea bargain to avoid prison, or go to prison and hope to get a pardon when Bush leaves office?

[NashVegas]

22. Kinda Hard to Plea Bargain

When you've already been convicted.

[Me.]

35. He Could Do An Abramoff

Talk, talk, talk, In return his sentemce keeps getting reduced,

[Robbien]

27. I agree. Scooter Libby was the go-to guy in this administration

Cheney had all the business of the WH flow through his office before it got anywhere near the Oval Office/West Wing staff.

Libby was Cheney's Chief of Staff.

Having Libby convicted and behind bars after being one of the few major leading political players for six years just doesn't compute in the minds of our Congresscritters.

[H2O Man]

29. Right.

The guy had three roles:

1- Cheney's Chief of Staff
2- Cheney's national security advisor
3- assistant to President Bush

It is sad to see anyone -- especially DUers -- take the position that he was a "small fish" or a minor player taking the fall for others.

[Me.]

34. This Needs To Be Said Over & Over

The picture they have been trying to paint for 3 years is so erroneous. The good, civil servant. They present him like he was a quiet guy in a back room, who worked 24/7 dusting and filing, not the 3rd most powerful person in the gov. that he was. And very few know, I imagine, about the business he and Wolfowitz got up to.

[truedelphi]

37. And of course, the timing was everything

From Rove on down, none of the top Repukes ever thought that those '06 elections would turn against them.

They are in a sorry predicament - and one that they couldn't envision occurring.

Their worst nightmares are coming true.

[Me.]

38. Rove Had The Numbers

They didn't think they could lose. Yet even having the numbers they lost. The handwriting on the blackboard is nice and large and they still can't see it.

[malaise]

26. Bingo

Fret Rethug scum fret.

[KharmaTrain]

28. Bubbleworld...The Elite Have Spoken

These are people used to getting their way...one way or another. Most have risen through abusing others or exploiting the very system they're now condemning. They believe they own the system...run the game...make the rules, thus they can also re-create history or revise it to suit their needs. They honestly don't see the blatant hypocrisy in their position as they think they're smarter than the rest of us and we can either believe them or our lying eyes.

Most of these "proponents" are also lifelong believers in "The Big Lie"...say it enough times and people will believe it.

What we're seeing...and thanks to Judge Walton releasing the names of Liddy's "friends"...is the Mighty Wurlitzer possibly giving a Swan Song...one vain attempt to reframe a political issue...convelute it and distort it through the corporate media that they hope will give them the plausible deniablity to go from saying that "perjury is a crime, no matter if its about lying about a blowjob" to "lying to protect an agenda is a just cause". Makes your head spin.

[KoKo]

30. Good Point.... and I wonder if they are afraid Scooter will crack and spill his guts.

Not likely...since he seems to have always been "a good soldier" but how would they know that?

Seeing the testimony of Luretta Doan one wonders at the sneering and lack of respect for Government Process and the Constitution this Bush crime family has. They think they will never be challenged or outed for their dirty deeds because "they own it all." Doan is totally different from Scooter or what happened there...but she's an example of those who think they will never get caught because they are surrounded with others who have a sneering idea of ethics and the rule of law.

[mitchum]

31. Yes, the courtiers are sleeping a little less easily now

[Marie26]

32. Yeah, they're all the same crowd

They all went to cocktail parties w/Libby. They all feel like part of the "elite". So when one of their own is actually held accountable, the DC crowd gasps. "Wait, we're not above the law? Eeek!"

[blm]

33. Libby is actually one of the only IranContra-BCCI insiders to get hooked by the

system, and that is what so many fear - that it will ALL be exposed if people keep digging. Plame wasn't JUST outed to get back at Wilson - her company tracked armsdealing networks that undoubtedly linked back to all the same key players in IranContra and BCCI.

We have BushInc and their enabling Democrats for that continuing crimewave. Libby has always been part of the overall 'coverup' looking out for the legal angling - as he did for Marc Rich and Dick Cheney.

[Mabus]

36. The aspens are connected at the roots

and, apparently because of global warming, Libby is finding out that they no longer turn in clusters.