Despite his shift to the right, [Dennis] Miller keeps liberal credibility

[swimmernsecretsea]

C.W. Nevius
Friday, June 15, 2007



Dennis Miller is daring you to throw a pie in his face.

OK, maybe that's a little too strong. Let's put it this way: Miller, best known as a "Saturday Night Live" comedian and former "Monday Night Football" commentator, will be appearing in the Bay Area today, and says he wouldn't be shocked if someone tried to throw a cream pie at him.

Just be warned, potential pie-tossers.

"If somebody comes at me with a pie, I'm going right at them," Miller said with a cackle. "I'm going Steve Atwater (a famously hard-hitting NFL player), baby."

Confrontational, edgy, and looking for trouble -- it's the new Dennis Miller.

Or is it?

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Source Link: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/15/BAGK5QFPPK1.DTL

Edited to conform to DU's copyright and fair use guidelines of 3-4 paragraphs with link

Lithos - DU Moderator

[MadBadger]

1. He has no credibility with me

[swimmernsecretsea]

3. Me either, but I thought people should see his mindset.

I think the Kool-Aid did something to his brain.

[MadBadger]

6. Question about Kool-aid. I see billo use the phrase all the time. Was he the first one?

I refuse to use the phrase because of him.

[NYCGirl]

18. I sincerely doubt it — it's a reference to the Jonestown Mass Suicide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown#References

[swimmernsecretsea]

24. It's been in use for a while. Although Billo seems to have his own peculiar recipe. nt

[Richard Steele]

2. Translation: "Someone please throw a pie- I need the publicity".

"PLEASE pay attention to MEEEE!!!!!"

[swimmernsecretsea]

5. Tragic, isn't he? nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Sez who?

[annabanana]

38. my response EXACTLY. . . . . .n/t

[Buzz Clik]

7. Ok, Dennis. I stand corrected:

"Some people," Miller says, "have suggested I did it as a career move. Let me tell you, if you think announcing on "The Tonight Show" that we ought to be killing radical terrorists is a good career move, you are mistaken."

Yes, I thought your radical shift to the right and your incredible hateful diatribes about Clinton and total ass-kissing of Bush was an appeal to the neo-con audience. But, I'll take your word for it that it was not an intentional career.

My only conclusion, therefore, is that you are a fucking idiot.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. Anybody who says Dennis Miller has credibility...

Hasn't got any credibility.

[Dogmudgeon]

9. A 53-year-old narcissistic teenager

Pretty sad.

--p!

[meegbear]

10. OK, I read this a couple times ...

now where does he keep his liberal credibility?

[graywarrior]

11. Forget it. He's an a-hole.

[PATRICK]

12. Odd

Nothing he mentions seems liberal or out of character and the defensiveness about the pie as a justification for thug guards rings a little false too. the whole article reeks or is it I have a different definition of liberal other than someone who liberally tears down the enemies of the GOP and cops to the turning of the entertainment establishment into a conservative power camp?

[NYCGirl]

13. Air America's Lionel blogs about Dennis Miller:

http://www.airamerica.com/lionel/node/12

Someone must be responsible for instilling in Mr. Miller the fanciful notion that he’s funny, poignant, witty and relevant. The modern day, likable Republican lapdog and acolyte. Maybe he spoke with his agent and is now attempting to reinvent his career as the lovable conservative. Shtick. Gimmick. Pathetic. It is novel. Think about it. The Hollywood elite actor establishes himself as virtually the lone conservative. That rara avis. Sounds good on paper.

Miller tries so hard to maintain this role of the cool hipster while prattling on about the country’s inability to see what’s really happening. But the act. That Miller thing. He’s becoming a caricature of himself. That “coo-coo, ring-a-ding-ding, daddy-o” bit has run its proverbial course. He’s the latter day minstrel show. He’s vaudeville, disco. He’s groovy, 23 skidoo. An anachronism. The act is dead. But I must admit I like it. I like laughing at Miller and marvel at to how he doesn’t get it.

Miller extolled the virtues of his hero, Rudy Giuliani. But why? What has Rudy done or said to warrant the paeans from Miller? Dunno. Miller, an LA denizen I guess, has fallen in love with the romantic image of 9/11 Rudy. America’s mayor. Look, we’ve said it so many times; Rudy was a strong and effective mayor post 9/11 and deserves our respect and credit. But Denny apparently knows not of pre-9/11 Rudy. Miller is seat-belted and riding shotgun on the Republican bandwagon. (That was Milleresque sorta.)

The act is simply nonpareil. Dennis Miller: Austin Powers. Was hip, was there. Now anachronistic.

[Buzz Clik]

15. "Was hip, was there. Now anachronistic." Yeah, but still angry.

[karlrschneider]

32. rara avis? More like a tabula rasa...

:eyes:

[AndreaCG]

57. Lionel isn't paying attention either.

The firefighters who tried to fight the WTC fire with nonworking radios, then saw that Giuliani was going to leave the fallen ones in the rubble, once the gold under the WTC was extracted don't give Giuliani 9-11 credit. Neither do the victims' survivors. Neither do the people who are coming down with respiratory ailments and cancer because they were told the air around the WTC was safe.

I miss Sam Seder in the mornings.

[NYCGirl]

59. Lionel is part of the 9/11 Truth Movement, BTW.

Edited to add: But that's not the point here, anyway.

[Cha]

61. That's a spot on analysis of

denny, "I coulda been a contenda", miller.

[AndyA]

14. Miller? Credibility? Are we talking about DENNIS Miller?

The word credibility doesn't belong in the same sentence with Dennis Miller, unless it's prefaced with "has no", followed by "whatsoever".

[WiseButAngrySara]

51. or followed by Miller time or Miller beer? He sold his soul and his mind....n/t

[BlooInBloo]

16. That's a load of rich creamery butter.

[WCGreen]

17. He was never liberal...

He took shot after shot at the government...

Then, he started to make money so stopped taking shot after shot at republicans...

I don't know how he is going to fait in the conservative talk arena...

Most of the trolls who listen to that crap won't understand a word he is saying...

[Solly Mack]

19. piffle

[CrispyQ]

20. I use to like Miller.

He had a rant about racism once & ended it by saying, "It's stupid to hate someone for the color of their skin because if you just talk to them for five minutes you'll find plenty of valid reasons to hate them."

Before the election in '04, I heard him state that 9/11 really shook him up & that as much as he supports Bush, if Kerry were elected he would support him the same.

I do like his statement about abortion: "I don't believe in abortion, but I'm pro-choice 'cause it is none of my business."

[meegbear]

27. He had a great 2 part joke on Weekend Update ...

one week, in between news items, he said "Did you ever wonder what Nancy Reagan would look like wearing Frank Gorshin's Riddler costume from the old Batman TV show"?

The following Saturday he says "After many requests, this is what Nancy Reagan would look like wearing Frank Gorshin's Riddler costume from the old Batman TV show" and she had Frank Gorshin's body in an action pose and Nancy Reagan's smiling face superimposed on it.

THAT was funny.

[Norquist Nemesis]

21. A "liberal darling" with a Clinton joke about polls? WTF?

Didn't like him then, like him even less now.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. Love me, I'm a liberal.

By Phil Ochs

I cried when they shot Medgar Evers
Tears ran down my spine
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X got what was coming
He got what he asked for this time
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R.
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every colored boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
as long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crain?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I read New republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like Korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I vote for the democratic party
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

[Arugula Latte]

71. New Republic?

How long ago was N.R. ever liberal?

:)

[onenote]

23. why would anyone throw a pie at a cream puff?

[IntravenousDemilo]

25. Dennis Miller's act used to be profane. Now instead, it's obscene. n/m

[Orsino]

26. He keeps his liberal "credibility"...

...by not believing strongly in much of anything. He'll tune his message to whatever sponsor or audience is willing to host him. Lately, that's tended to mean Republicans, but you can bet that Miller will be ready to whore it up no matter who is in charge.

[eauclaireliberal]

49. Miller wants liberal credibility much the same way people want the clap. nm

nm

[Bucky]

28. I give him props on that "salt lick" analogy.

Assuming, you know, you don't mind using American troops and Iraqi civilians as the salt.

And you don't mind the deer breeding at a fantastic rate (eg, al-Qeada tripling in size since 2001).
.

[TlalocW]

29. I don't remember him as very political one way or the other

Back in the day. If someone did something he thought was stupid he would call him or her on it. I think liberals liked him because his various obscure references in his stand-up was a kind of intellectual comedy, and I sincerely doubt that a typical republican audience will be able to keep up with them as much as a typical liberal audience could. He did drink the Kool-Aid though. After SNL, he became more and more irrelevant, but he looked around and saw how well people like Rush Limbaugh were doing and tried to re-invent himself, which I think he's failed at. Successful republican pundits try to emphasize how manly and tough they are (even though they're not), and they don't want to put stress on the thinking capabilities of their audience. You fail at all that if you're able to take a current event and reference Judy Garland, Sherpas, and Mo Udall in one breath.

TlalocW

[Sparkly]

30. Another assertion without evidence

Why does the author think Miller has "liberal credibility??"

[madokie]

31. dennis miller has credibility

another poster wants us to be nice to chimpy and yet another has a problem with calling the war criminal chimpy. What the HELL is DU coming too I ask:shrug: sheeze

[swimmernsecretsea]

34. Read my replies.

Not good to make an assumption. I posted this so people would see a current article about Miller. This article surprises me. It's a good idea to know what is going on in the media with people like Miller.

[glitch]

33. Reads like a press release. No, not a press release. What do they call

those pseudo news articles and videos put out by corporations that local news stations air as if they'd produced them themselves... they've got their own special name but I can't think of it.

edit: got it, VNR, Video "News" Release is the video version of it.

[swimmernsecretsea]

37. Advertorial?

I can't think of it either.

[glitch]

58. That's good, if it isn't used it should be. nt

[swimmernsecretsea]

60. It's what we used to use when I was with the San Francisco Chronicle Advertisng Dept. nt

[glitch]

70. Ah! So it is the general term for this sort of thing. Good to know, thanks, nt

[Madspirit]

35. BFD

He supports gay marriage and is pro-choice. BFD. He still supports an immoral war, a chimpanzee for president. I'm a lesbian and if he thinks I'm going to like him just because he is pro-gay marriage while also being pro-killing Iraqis..pro sending our kids off to kill and die...he is wrong.
Lee

[LostInAnomie]

36. JUDITH Miller has more liberal credibility than DENNIS Miller.

They both can kiss my ass.

[swimmernsecretsea]

41. I think Judy Miller has more credibility than Dennis Miller

Gilda Radner plays Judy Miller, a hyper little girl with an overactive imagination, playing with her dolls, a bridal veil and other toys and clothes in her bedroom, while acting out and narrating her own imaginary "show" with great enthusiasm, sometimes to her downstairs mother's exasperation.

[butterfly77]

44. I'll drink to that...

[ToeBot]

39. He may fancy himself a "Steve Atwater", but Leroy Atwater is really more his style these days. nt

[mitchtv]

40. So the TV career is over -now AM radio

This should be quick. Some girl should pie hin then kick his ass.

[swimmernsecretsea]

42. I think his career high was

The old bag of bones 'Cryptkeeper' returns for his second full length feature flick about a funeral home that's a front for a whorehouse run by vampires.


http://imdb.com/title/tt0117826/

[butterfly77]

43. I have listen to him and..

from what I heard he is another rightwing nut who thinks that, its all about kill,kill, kill, and then he believes america will win. He seems to think that if he bombs every country he will get rid of the terrorists. I haven't heard anything about what he will do about the unknown terrorists already here once bush bombs Iran. How will they find them when they can't do anything about the crime in america.

[WiseButAngrySara]

45. This LIBERAL Dennis Miller?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200406090008
CNBC's Dennis Miller on Iraqi prisoner abuse photos: "I like to trade them with friends"
In the opening "Daily Rorschach" segment of CNBC's June 8 edition of Dennis Miller, host and executive producer Dennis Miller said of the Iraqi prisoner abuse photos, "I like to trade them with friends."
From the June 8 edition of CNBC's Dennis Miller:
MILLER: I'm sorry, those pictures from the Abu Ghraib. At first, they, like infuriated me, I was sad. Then like, a couple days later, after they cut the guy's head off, they didn't seem like much. And now, I like to trade them with friends.
Miller's comments echoed radio host Rush Limbaugh's May 21 comments: "The media ought to start making some money off these pictures and videos, not just publishing them free. We need some prison torture, you know, bubble gum cards ... you know, like I say, we got baseball cards and bubble gum. Now let's have terror cards -- only let's show our prison abuse photos instead of the terrorists and who they are and what they do."
http://www.counterpunch.org/vachon05192003.html
The Last Refuge of Goofy
Dennis Miller's Zionist Career Move
by ROSS VACHON
But, Dennis Miller had become so thorougly indecent he was putting the country at risk. Aided and abetted by a media that was playing along, just as they'd done in the Red Scare years.

Miller didn't just just need a break. He needed to break in a entire new act.

9/11 and Intifada II supplied it.

Dennis Miller would re-invent himself as a root-toot-a-tootin' Zionist crazyman. Use that rancid, smarmy whine on the Palestinians, the good-for nothing darkies. He'd leapfrog Ed Koch at scorning the French, clip Dick Morris at demeaning Queen Noor, and jump tall Germans with a single snotty remark. By this suck-up calculus, Miller thought he was really on to something. He knew he'd get the the hip squares, the garden-variety suits who could never do him any good. But, by being so openly foul, and racist, he also calculated it'd make real big men in the business take notice. Why, they'd piss in their Rick Pollack pants laughing, and let him write his own ticket this time! Shows, tours, concerts, movies, you name it! Nothing's too good for this high-wire cat! Right on, man! Mazel tov! Sweet. He could smell it.
Some months ago, a Jewish friend (Hollywood division), aware that the Middle East held some interest for me, emailed a Miller rant. Perhaps, he thought it had pizazz. A bilious screed, it bristled with Anti-Christ charity. Miller's points were fast & furious, filled with four interesting zionist facts:

1, The Palestinians had never existed. Their disinterest in white man nationalism had proved it. No flag, no people.

2. The Palestinians were rotten devils. Their brown-skin was a giveaway.

3. The Palestinians were insane liars. Their poverty and refugee status had compromised their ability to tell the truth.

4. The Palestinians are evil children who must be punished for their own good. Kill a few here and there, and the rest would scurry like rats.

Miller had outdone himself. Proof of it, the screed reached #1 on the Jewish yahoo pass-it-around email circuit. Across the Net, every Ira, Glick, and Larry was hailing it as the greatest thing since Baruch Goldstein had mowed down all those Palestinians kneeling in prayer.

A word here to clarify: Doubtless, there are many Jews who've been equally repulsed by Dennis Miller's rabid zionism. His incontinent squeals put Pat Robertson to shame. His racist rants leave a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. A growing number of Jewish-Americans resent the fact that Israel's crimes are being committed in their name. There are many schisms in the Jewish community now, and the widest is the one between those who care about all humanity, and those whose concept of Never Again! means Never Again!, only with respect to the Jews. Miller panders to the latter.

A craven neurotic named Dennis Miller. A racist zionist posing as an All-American boy. A phony patriot whose lies are beneath contempt.

Miller permeates the lies the Israeli Government tells so they can escape accountability for starving families, demolishing homes, humiliating pregnant women, and shooting children in the back. He exploits Americans' traditional ignorance of lands beyond our shores. His jokes don't buoy our spirit, they rot it. Every Freedom, Liberty and Moral Value Americans have fought and died for, Dennis Miller pisses on. And, all in the vain hope, it would jump-start a schmucky comedy career. A career with a bacterial shelf-life of minus and counting.

http://www.audioasylum.com/members/watercooler/messages/4573.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNDROYABIjA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Einfowars%2Ecom%2Farticles%2Fsept11%2Fodonnell%5Fattacks%5Fat%5Fmiller%5Ftime%5Flevel%2Ehtm

[WiseButAngrySara]

46. Pro-Israel, Zionist, anti-Pal;estinian,, Pro-B* Pro Neo-CON, nutjob ....n/t

[lpbk2713]

47. Dennis has fallen on hard times. Can't afford to buy a decent suit.

The only gigs he gets these days are car wash openings.

Not that I could give a fat rat's ass. :rofl:

[EFerrari]

48. Nevius, pretty much consistently wrong about nearly everything. n/t

[City Lights]

50. Who is Dennis Miller's #1 fan?

Dennis Miller.

:puke:

[WiseButAngrySara]

54. O'Lielly too. ...n/t

[WilliamPitt]

52. Aren't there laws against the public display of corpses.

[eauclaireliberal]

53. The Miller & McCain Show

The two should get a gig on AM radio or Fox TV. They can talk about flip-flopping, fellating GOP top-thugs and make fart jokes. The ratings will exceed Brit Hume.

[Radical Activist]

55. I wonder how much of weekend update was written by Al Franken.

I doubt Miller was ever the thinker on that show.

[blondeatlast]

64. I never thought Miller did his own material; you can tell he's a bit too well-prepped

before most appearances, IMHO.

[ieoeja]

56. Apparently, Nevius hadn't listened to Miller for about 15 years.

Miller went con a good 15 years ago. Where in the world was Nevius?

[Geek_Girl]

62. Miller isn't very funny and he ruined a whole season of Monday Night football

Why anyone would pay to see that "has been" is beyond me.

[blondeatlast]

63. His timing is just a bit off, but damn he tries. First unabashed liberal,

then damn--it was no longer profitable, so rah, rah Bush and nasty attacks on the likes of Senator Reid.

I noticed he really toned it down last night on the Showbiz Show, too.

Sensing another shift in the air, you mercenary crappy stand-up comedian?

[Zomby Woof]

77. He was never a liberal

Back in '95, when he had his HBO show, Michael Douglas (well known as a liberal activist) was his guest, and Douglas jokingly called Miller "My favorite fascist in Hollywood".

The topic on the program was "Is Liberalism Dead?" Featuring a tombstone with "Here Lies Liberalism, 1933-1995" on it. :puke:

[spanone]

65. I tuned this creep out years ago. Be gone, miller.

[Elspeth]

66. Dennis Miller never had credibility as a comedian

I think you have to be funny for that.

[KG]

67. dennis miller: 5'2 and 98lbs of whup azz!

[burythehatchet]

72. I was thinkin how sweet it would be to be the would be pie thrower

and subsequent physical combatant. One can dream

[orleans]

68. "liberal credibility"? NOT IN MY HOUSE. we can't stand the asshole! n/t

[Az]

69. Miller represents the danger of placing a comedian on a political pedestal

Most comedians approach politics with a libertarian sense. That is they poke at any political stance that they can reach. They look upon politics as their prey. They may find a following that favors one particular leaning of politics but this does not mean they share that leaning.

A comedian looks to politics for what is wrong with it. They do not make people laugh by pointing out what is right with it. Just because they poke the sacred cows of your opposition doesn't mean they won't turn that act around and open up on your sacred cows.

[nini]

73. NO Liberal would ever back Bush on the war like he has

He may be trying to swing back to save his career but too fucking late. He is a pig.

[Canuckistanian]

74. So, he's tentatively pro-choice? That's it?

And this gives him 'liberal cred'???

And he once made fun of Poppy when he was running for president in 1988?

Wow, how 'contemporary'.

[MisterP]

75. whenever I think of him, I head Marge saying, "Isn't that the voice that caused all those suicides?

Treehouse of Horror XII

[Gloria]

76. Who says?

[deucemagnet]

78. No pie throwers in this thread? Nobody?

Sorry, Dennis. It seems nobody gives a shit.

[Breeze54]

79. Same asshole, just older and more full of shit!

I'd throw a cow pie in his face, in a heartbeat! :rofl:
Except that's probably what he wants. Attention.
That would make him feel relevant again, so, I'd pass.



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