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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:25 PM
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I just came from my in-laws house and heard a strange thing.
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 08:26 PM by woodsprite
They're fundies, sometimes I can't tell if they're Repub or not, then other times it seems it's a definite "Yes". We were talking at dinner about a local Jewish business man who is planning to run for governor. I didn't know what party affiliation, but I know that the guy goes to the synagogue my MIL works at, so I mentioned it. Knowing his business practices and family history, my first guess was that he's a Repub. MIL said "Didn't you know? There are no Jewish Republicans. They're all Democrats."

Actually, he's running against 2 Dem guys that I know, so one of those guys will be getting my vote. I just couldn't keep my mouth shut. I made the comment "You mean Dem like Joe Lieberman? He only qualifies as a Dem because he writes a "D" after his name." She looked at me so frustrated and then dropped the subject. I can't believe it actually made her stop her prattling!

So, how about it? It's gotta be pretty easy to come up with a list that I can send her? I'm Googling, but do you know where I might find a list? I thought one existed where politicians were listed by religious affiliation.
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:31 PM
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1. Ben Stein
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:04 PM
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43. Joe Lieberman. n/t
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:32 PM
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2. Why Not Just Tell Her She's Ignorant And Be Done With It?
I mean seriously, you really need proof of this?
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CharmCity Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:32 PM
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3. Ari Fleishman
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 08:34 PM by CharmCity
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Steepler0t Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:33 PM
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4. Old stereotype
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 08:34 PM by Steepler0t
Jewish and Catholic (you can still hear them slur us with "bleeding heart") supposedly vote Democratic, but it is not wholly untrue.
A lot of Protestant/Baptist types do tend to be repubs also.
Just about every Jewish person I have known has turned out to be a Dem though.

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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:45 PM
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22. There is an old saying that Jews live like
Episcopalians but vote like Puerto Ricans.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:59 PM
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38. Three Jews and a typewriter equal five political parties.
I thought everyone knew that. We never agree about anything.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:04 PM
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42. Two Jews on a desert island will build
three synagogues...one for me, one for you and the other I wouldn't step foot in not in a million years, oy vey!
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:53 PM
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50. That is my favorite ethnic joke of all time!
I've also heard that it was one man, and three synagogues: his, one too fancy schmancy for him, and the one he wouldn't get caught dead in.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:34 PM
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5. He's not a politician, but how about Jack Abramoff?
They don't get much more GOP than him.
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theguvnorgc Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:34 PM
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6. Bill Cohen?
Fmr Secy Defense?
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:54 PM
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51. Cohen is actually a goy, a Methodist, his dad was Jewish, his mom Xian.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:36 PM
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7. David Horowitz
and any of the neo-con P-nackers: Podhoretz, Kristol, Pearl, Elliot Abrams, Scooter. Shit, the administration was infested with them. They're the ones who put us in Iraq.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:38 PM
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8. Jackie Mason!
What a nut. Go to his "blog" and listen to his drivel.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:19 PM
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45. When Mason dies, Dennis Miller will replace him.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:38 PM
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9. Here's a link:
to a post by a Jewish Du'er. He provided a stat I wasn't aware of.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x52354#52415

IanDB taught me something, as I didn't know Adam Sandler voted republican until then.
Hope this helps. :)
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:40 PM
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10. Paul Wolfowitz
remember him?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:40 PM
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11. Paul Wolfowitz nt
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:43 PM
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14. Richard Norman Perle nt
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:41 PM
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12. Norm Coleman
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:41 PM
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13. Dov Zakheim
among others
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:43 PM
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15. Michael Bloomberg
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:43 PM
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16. Jack Abramoff and his buddy Daniel Lapin.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:44 PM
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17. A recent ambassador apppointed by Bush is Jewish
and a Repuke...Sam Fox. Unfortunately he's from St Louis. Sick.

The rabbi of a local congregation said that he had never heard of a Jewish republican until he moved to St Louis. His previous congregation was in New York.

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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:44 PM
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18. Joe Lieberman nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:44 PM
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19. Douglas Feith
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:44 PM
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20. Arlen Specter is a Jewish Republican. So's Norm Coleman.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:44 PM
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21. Linda Lingle, current Gov. of Hawai'i
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:45 PM
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23. Ken Mehlman
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:48 PM
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24. Michael Ledeen, one of the PNAC guys you may not have heard of.

He was proposing an attack on Iran in spring 2003. I can't remember if it was before or after the war in Iraq began, but he made a speech to the AEI urging this.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:49 PM
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26. Ya beat me to it!!
Ledeen was involved in the biggest foreign policy scandal of the Ronald Reagan administration. As a consultant of National Security Adviser Robert C. McFarlane, Ledeen vouched for Iranian intermediary Manucher Ghorbanifar, and met with Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres, and officials of the Israeli Foreign Ministry and the CIA to arrange meetings with high-ranking Iranian officials and the much-criticized weapons-for-hostages deal with Iran that would become known as the Iran-Contra scandal.<7>
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:03 PM
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41. But you have much more dirt on Ledeen! Iran-Contra scandal, huh?

Vouched for Manucher Ghorbanifar, a name harder to forget. It sounds like Ledeen was the main guy driving the Iran-Contra operation. He manages to stay under the radar, it seems. I don't remember how I happened to read that speech of us urging that we attack Iran, but it sure made me remember his name.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:48 PM
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25. Here are some.
Republican Jews:
Ari Fleisher (former White House Press Secretary for President Bush)
Michael Chertoff (Director of Homeland Security)
Ken Mehlman (Head of the Republican National Committee)
Fred Zeidman (Chairman of the Holocaust Museum and a lifelong friend to President Bush)
Congressman Eric Cantor (Deputy Majority Whip of the United States Congress)
United States Senators Arlen Spector and Norm Coleman
Paul Wolfowitz (President of the World Bank, formerly Deputy Secretary of Defense)
Matt Brooks (Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition)
David Horowitz(conservative activist/author)

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:51 PM
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28. Shows ya how people
generalize, paint a broad brush, and repeat what they hear without further investigation.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:34 PM
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49. yeah like that old bromide
The one about the Pope being Catholic!!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:53 PM
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32. Kristol, Feith,
actually a lot of Neocons who follow the Jewish Strauss. Milton Friedman, the free-market economist. Lots more.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:50 PM
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27. George "Macaca" Allen
I think he may have converted to another faith though. I just remembered it came out during his campaign.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:08 AM
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59. I think he is ethnically Jewish, as his mother was of Jewish descent...
but a Protestant by religion, and definitely not keen to identify culturally with Jews. Or anyone other than white supremacist types!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:51 PM
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29. Henry "realpolitik" Kissinger
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:52 PM
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30. War criminal Henry Kissinger
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:52 PM
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31. I'm a little confused. Your MIL works at a synagogue but isn't Jewish?
Did I get that part right?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:59 AM
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56. That's what the OP said. A member of my Catholic parish was secretary

at a Presbyterian church for years. It probably is a good idea because the secretary won't have ties to a congregation she doesn't belong to so all will get equal treatment -- unless her boss tells her some are more equal than others!
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:54 PM
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33. Barry Goldwater n/t
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:02 PM
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40. Goldwater's dad was Jewish, but Goldwater was raised as an Episcopalian-
his mother's faith. I think Jewish law holds that a person inherits being Jewish from their mother, not their father.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:54 PM
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34. I. Lewis Libby
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:05 AM
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57. Yep. Josh Bolton, too.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:15 AM
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60. and John Bolton
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:27 AM
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61. No, John Bolton is a Protestant
(just checked on Wikipedia; they say he's a Lutheran).

Joshua Bolten is Jewish - you may be thinking of him?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:31 AM
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62. I guess because he was Senior VP of the AEI
I thought that
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:56 PM
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35. Michael Chertoff
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:56 PM
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36. Deputy National Security Advisor Elliott Abrams
And all these folks: http://www.rjchq.org/
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:57 PM
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37. Eric Cantor. I don't know if he's still in the House. I found a list

that only goes through the 2005-2006 Congress which he is on. I also found an article that says there is one Jewish House member in the current Congress; could be Cantor, could be someone else.

A week or so ago I found a list of religious affiliations for the current Congress but I don't seem to have bookmarked it and haven't found it yet.
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:32 PM
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48. I'm sure there's more than one Jewish House member.
Our Congresswoman, for one--Shelley Berkley. She's a Democrat, though.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:09 PM
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53. There are many Jewish house members
including, but certainly not limited to, Debbie Wasserman-Shultz, the fantastic rising star from South Florida.

All the ones I can think of are Democrats. Maybe the article quoted in the post you responded to meant "one Jewish republican house member"
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:54 AM
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55. Yes, that's what the article said but it did not name the member so I

don't know if it was Cantor or not.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:52 AM
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54. There are lots of Jewish House members but all are Dems except one. nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:00 PM
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39. Joe Lieberman
;-)
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:15 PM
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44. Ari Fleischer
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:20 PM
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46. Mike Nifong
oops, wrong thread...


yes, i know it is wrong in soooo many ways... :evilgrin:
dp
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:32 PM
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47. Most AIPAC members.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:05 PM
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52. Most Jews are Democrats
Of course, there are Republican Jews, just like there are Republican African Americans, so your MIL is wrong to speak in absolutes. But, most Jews vote Democratic.

____________________________________________________________________________
The best estimate of the two-party Jewish vote in 2004 – based on the National
Election Pool (NEP) exit poll sample of 1511 Jewish voters – is:
• Senator John Kerry: 78%
• President George Bush: 22%

• A large majority (from 65% to 74%) of American Jews identify as Democrats.
Estimates of the percentage of American Jews who identify as Republicans range
from 11-21%.1

Jewish Americans overwhelmingly identify themselves as liberal (up to 40%
liberal in surveys by The Mellman Group along with Kiley and Co. and the
Feldman Group) or moderate on an ideological scale. Somewhere between 13-
18% of Jews identify themselves as conservative.

http://www.thesolomonproject.org/jewishvote.pdf
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:05 AM
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58. Well, I think most ARE Dems statistically...
But I think there are currently 13 Jewish senators, of whom 2 are Republican and one bordering on it(!) All the rest Dems or Socialist (Sanders). I actually checked this out recently, due to someone implying that most American Jewish politicians are on the right; so obviously there are stereotypes in both directions but the 'Jews are Democrats' one seems a little closer to the truth.

Going back a bit, I know Javits was a Jewish Republican, but way to the left of current Republicans.

I think in the UK, there is less association between religion and political affiliation, but could be wrong. I could readily think of Protestant, Catholic and Jewish MPs of all main parties; and there are quite a few whose religion is unknown or non-existent.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 11:02 AM
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67. Although there is a minority of Jewish Republicans . .
Edited on Sat Jun-16-07 11:13 AM by msmcghee
. . I'd suspect that some of those - I don't know what percentage - have become Republican in the last few years as a result of seeing many on the far left become infected with antisemitism and openly support terrorist regimes in the ME. I'm not Jewish but it's affected me too. If this continues I think it's improbable but possible that the actual Democratic left could split along Israeli/Palestinian lines - much as we are seeing here on DU. (But I suspect that the latest chaos in Gaza has set back that scenario significantly.)

If the far left ever manages to field Dem candidates in major races that are openly anti-Israel - I predict a significant shift to the right and an openness toward moderate Republicans in the eyes of many Independents and even some currently Democratic voters.

It's interesting to observe the moderators' decisions in the I/P forum as they and DU's owners walk the delicate line between taking sides and allowing robust debate. It's got to be a tough job and I don't envy any of them. But that's also one of the things about DU that makes it a very interesting place to hang out. :thumbsup:

Added on edit: I invite anyone who thinks they have sound positions and good debating skills to enter the fray there. It can be an educational and humbling experience.
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peacebaby3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:52 AM
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63. Every Jewish person I know is a Liberal who votes Democratic so I can't
help you very much. I would imagine just like any other culture, there are republics and Democrats. I honestly would have thought of the Jewish as an ethnic group as more Democratic.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:55 AM
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64. Republican Jewish Coalition, former pres and now
ambassador Sam "The Swiftboater" Fox.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:56 AM
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65. Is your mother in law a Jewish fundie(!) or a fundie who works at a synagogue?
either way it's a bit strange.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:59 AM
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66. Sammy Davis Jr
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 12:13 PM
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68. Making a list of Jews...
Where have I seen that before...
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