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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:13 AM
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Kos member will file complaint to disbar Miers, Gonzales
From a post on dailyKos:




Harriet Miers should be disbarred (59+ / 0-)

I am filing a complaint against her and on Gonzales with the Texas Bar.

I'm going to make it pinpoint accurate - pointing to their exact perjury and lawbreaking, not a broad political diatribe. It will be tied to the Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct for lawyers in Texas.

Then I'm going to shame the bar into acting. Local media will be contacted.


by JLFinch on Wed Jun 13, 2007 at 10:03:12 AM PDT


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/13/12144/9060
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fazoolius_2006 Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:18 AM
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1. I think Gonzales is a friggin' bum, but what will removing him
do anyway? Why all the attention spent on him? I still can't understand that. If he is removed, would we get someone better? Probably not.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:24 AM
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4. After what he and the GOP did??? Are you KIDDING ME?...IMHO, Them dudes need some MAJOR SHAMING
Look to the BIG PICTURE

The GOP stands in the Way to a BETTER AMERICA...their 16 SEASON(YEAR) track record SUCKS
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:44 AM
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12. Do they need shaming? Of course....but....
would a pig be shamed if you called him a pig? He wouldn't even notice, he'd just keep wallowing in the mud!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 07:53 AM
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26. Shaming is secondary. Disbarment would force Gonzo's removal from DOJ.
The shaming part might just influence Congress to more highly scrutinize Bush's nomination for Gonzo's successor. It might also focus media attention on the problem with Meirs, Gonzo, and Bush.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:31 AM
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35. The 3 Stooges??? LOL
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:25 AM
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5. welcome to DU
Do you happen to remember the reason Bill Clinton was disbarred, through the complaint filed by schmucks and wingnuts?

He was disbarred for lying about a blowjob. Shouldn't Gonzales and Miers face some kind of professional smackdown for corrupting the Department of Justice and attacking the Constitution?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:27 AM
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8. Of course not. They're Republicans.
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fazoolius_2006 Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:34 AM
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9. Yes, I agree they should face some ind of smackdown
But my point is, if he were to resign, do you think Bush isn't going to do everything possible to plug in someone who will just rubber stamp all of his policies?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 06:36 AM
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21. Bush's appointment will have to be approved by the Senate.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:26 AM
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6. By all means, give up, lie down, do nothing.
Let that truck run over you.

Welcome to DU.

We really do seem to be getting infested again.
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fazoolius_2006 Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:36 AM
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10. By all means don't give up, but why not concentrate on
fighting a fight that we can win and make a difference at. Why not keep pounding the legislation to get us out of Iraq? Why waste any effort on Gonzales?
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:39 AM
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11. Why keep attacking Gonzo?
Edited on Sat Jun-16-07 02:39 AM by Kool Kitty
Because the shit that this administration has done to the Department of Justice, under the criminal leadership of Gonzalez, just may last longer than the war. And be more damaging.
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fazoolius_2006 Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:46 AM
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13. Very true and i am in complete agreement
but since he serves at the pleasure of the president and bush is so freaking stubborn and supports him 100%, what will it get us? I just get tired of redirecting energy to Gonzo...I think it is distracting.

Anyway, that is all I am going to say on this. Yes, Gonzo has done many things wrong, but short of catching him in a lie, I don't think he is going anywhere.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:52 AM
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14. Catching him in a lie? One lie?
I don't know if you read the papers, but he has been caught in a whole lot of lies. This isn't a distraction, this goes to the very core of the system of justice in this country. All his rats are deserting the ship, another one quit today, and Bush will either have to fire him or have this go on and on. I know you don't want to say any more about this, but you better think a bit more about it.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:55 AM
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15. BECAUSE IT IS MY JUSTICE DEPT AND MY KIDS AND MY HUSBAND AND
BECAUSE EVERYONE IN MY FAMILY FOUGHT FOR A JUSTICE DEPT..that isn't stealing elections and being destroyed by a person who should never have ever been a AG!!

Because this so called AG is not protecting my family he is protecting one man..little lord pissy pants..and that is not his job!!

I say stay on him like stink on shit!!

stay on him and never let go..because that is what this country was and is about before this corrupt administration..

every day ..day after day..stay on that little fucker!!

make his life unbearable ..is what i say..after all it is my justice dept..

and i am unwilling to concede it to little lord pissy pants or that little lying fucker gonzo!! or that MTF rove!!

fly
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 12:10 PM
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30. You have GOTTA be fucking kidding me.
You honestly think he's never yet been "caught in a lie"?

Seriously?

:wtf:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:57 AM
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17. Kool KItty..abso- fucking -lutely!!.....you've got it!!..eom
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 03:00 AM
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18. Thanks, but I think your post says it a whole
lot better.
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petersjo02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:55 AM
Response to Reply #10
16. Simple reason
We (Dems) can walk and chew gum at the same time.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 04:58 AM
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20. Yes, but
why did the democrats waste time going after John Mitchell? And Haldeman? Shouldn't they have just stayed focused?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 11:57 AM
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28. thank you
You're right. We can bulldog more than one crook at a time.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 03:23 AM
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19. Little strokes fell mighty oaks -- or crooks
Although I agree, it's not as if he did something heinous -- like have sex with an aide.

:sarcasm:

--p!
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 07:57 AM
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27. When the top cop in the USA is breaking laws and you don't care if he is removed
What are you doing on these boards? If you don't care what happens in this nation why aren't you watching some cartoon show on TV like Family guy or South Park?
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. Now THAT, my friends, is a SMACKDOWN.
:rofl:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 12:14 PM
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31. Bingo. If your attitude is "Why bother?", this is not the place for you.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:19 AM
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2. Sounds like this could be for REAL...If it IS...The SHIT HITTING THE FAN..will be TEXAS SIZED
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:23 AM
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3. come, we go huki-lau
Is that how we celebrate?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 02:27 AM
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7. Outdated...hardly any fish and besides...its commercialized to the point of a 2-3 hr Disney Ride..
Come, we go Bar, my treat...LOL
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 07:00 AM
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22. morning kick
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 07:31 AM
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23. Great idea! n/t
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 07:38 AM
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24. A sitting AG getting disbarred would be some heavy baggage
Bush COULD keep him on, but every day a disbarred lawyer
stays on as AG, it'll be the subject of cartoons all over
the country. Of course, National Hate Radio will hail the
victory of loyalty to Bush over respect for the rule of law,
but even they will have to go through some kind of wild verbal
contortions to justify it. Plus, should it ever come to
larger action against Gonzo, the disbarment would be some
VERY powerful ammuntion against any argument for keeping him on.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 07:41 AM
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25. I love it. Time for the politicians to either lead, follow, or GTH out of the way.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 12:32 PM
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32. Clinton was disbarred.
SALON | Dec. 11, 1998 - Clinton should be disbarred - http://www.salon.com/news/1998/12/11newsb.html

A LEADING LEGAL ETHICIST OFFERS A PUNISHMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE PRESIDENT'S CRIMES.

BY LORI LEIBOVICH | As Act I in the impeachment drama draws to its conclusion, the political stakes keep getting higher. To unscramble the latest plot twists and turns, Salon spoke with Monroe Freedman, former dean of Hofstra University law school and one of the country's leading legal ethicists, about what Act II -- an impeachment trial in the Senate -- might look like. Freedman also offered a glimpse at the eventual Act III, the aftermath of all this, and why President Clinton should never be able to practice law again. ...

Ordinarily, the burden is on the party who is seeking to change the status quo. There is always a presumption that things ought to stay the way they are, unless there is some affirmative reason for changing it. Well, that argues for at least a preponderance of evidence. I would say, as in most things that are really important, there would be a minimum of clear and convincing evidence. ###

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FINAL RESOLUTION - http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/impeach.html#final
Final resolution on disbarment and further prosecution in January 2001
* Southeastern Legal Foundation - http://www.southeasternlegal.org/document.asp?doc=disbar
o Petition to the Arkansas Supreme Court to remove President Clinton from the Arkansas State Bar for unethical conduct
o Dated September 15, 1998
o Includes time line and additional statements through 2000
* Supreme Court Disbarment
o ABC News - http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/scotus011001.html
+ Former President Clinton disbarred from practicing before Supreme Court
+ ABC news story of October 1, 2001

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 06:35 PM
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33. Good Luck and Best Wishes! I Hope It Works!
And given some of the reports out of Texas, I'd say your chances were even, if not better!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:47 PM
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34. If they do this, then I think I'm in love. :-D
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