Ruthless Russia - White Nationalism Rampant

[StrongFRONT22]

It was but all a dream to ever believe Russia would be benign and peaceful under Putin. Deplorably, numerous people in strategic posts misjudged Russia.

Today the Kremlin is on the offensive. It has positioned military and ex-security service personal in charge of Russian industry and all key governmental posts. It is liquidating its adversaries even across international borders, has gagged the media, suppressed civil liberties, harassed foreign diplomats, intimidated businessmen and NGOs, it's threatened to target Europe with ABM missiles, it carried out intense cyber attacks against its neighbor, Estonia and it's using pipeline power to shake down its near abroad and wrest the rest of Europe into line. As if that weren't enough, an even more sinister development has arisen.

Putin has created a very sophisticated youth movement made up of over 100,000 volunteers called "Nashi", much like a clone of the Nazi youth movement. It is a well-equipped, fanatical, nationalistic private army that is hostile to foreigners and to any political group opposing the Kremlin leadership. Their aggressive behavior is not only tolerated by the authorities but also even encouraged. They help re-enforce local police; wearing black attire, they aggressively beat anyone they consider hooligans or insurrectionist.

They have been taught to believe that the United States is actively preparing a pro-western revolution in their country and that they will thwart it. They have developed high-level recruiting and training camps right across the expanse of Russia. Not only are they schooled in a variety of military issues, they also have orientation courses in such esoteric subjects as gestalt therapy, to help them to survive under extreme conditions.

This newly created, virtual army needs to be closely monitored and taken very seriously as it could well get out of hand and take on an even more menacing function.

exceprt read more at

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/06/ruthless_russia.html
---------------------------


A real problem in russia is this youth movement there really is a huge National Socialist (see WHITE NATIONALIST) movement in russia. There have been several immigrants and minorities killed by the youths and if you do a simple search for "russian nationalism" on yahoo you will find videos of minorities being killed or abused by skinheads.

even russian pop culture has turned White Nationalist :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2o9dIgRI9A

The dancers at the end are White Nationalists with their face painted in the russian flag, and the female singer (while hot) makes a nazi salute several times in the video.. she also rejects all foreigners in the video and if you listen to the words (you must speak ruskie) she rejects anyone except white russian men.

Keep in mind Russia is not a communist or even democratic socialist country, it is actually more along the lines of National Socialist (the german national socialist party was called NAZI) at its current stage we should keep an eye on Russia is all i'm saying.. remember shrub peered into putin's heart and saw a decent man

[fazoolius_2006]

1. Russia seems to be regressing to the old ways...what

a shame. The corruption that exists there and now this? Sad.

[Orrin_73]

2. Russian nazis are playing with fire

Some 30% of the population of the Russia is not ethnically european (white), thats 42 million people. Many of them live in semi independent republics within russia, there are voices in those states screaming for independence (tatarstan and many states in the caucasus). If these non white russians feel alienated which they already feel I predict that russia will end up like the soviet union it will dissolve into many nations. There is also a probability that it will end up like yugoslavia.

[StrongFRONT22]

3. You are correct

I would describe parts of russia as a powder keg waiting for the orders to go off..

even without those orders several foreigners have been killed already. It is the most organized, active WN country in the world.

Also I heard russia was only 20% non white.

[Orrin_73]

5. Its more then 20%

20% is the official version unofficially its more. You should make a difference between ethnic russians and non russians, many white non russians also exist is russia. My ancestors from my mothers side where tatar refugees from russia, fleeing from cossacks and the russian army.

[shenmue]

9. I agree

It sounds like another World War waiting to happen. Anytime you get extreme nationalism and violence put together, that's what happens. :( :scared:

[formercia]

14. The Estonians have a big Nationalist Movement.

and they hate Russians.

There's a lot of built-up resentment and the Crusaders are playing on these sentiments to whip up trouble.

[ToeBot]

4. Hey, at least they're cracking down on music pirates!

...working for that WTO carrot. Fear the RIAA, the Russians do.

[treestar]

6. Amazing they are so dumb they do not understand

That this kind of thing keeps them poor.

They don't have to worry about enforcing their immigration laws. Why? Because no one wants to go there.

When will they "get it" that a burgeoing economy means that everyone wants to come.

What a waste. Huge country with many resources. Newly free and without an infrastructure of regulations.

They should be rolling in dough right now. Instead, they choose this crap.

[Ezana]

7. Now that Russia has started standing up againest Bush's American dream, World Domination,

Bushites has started pulling Russia'dirty laundary. The World should rather keep its eyes on America; it is the one who has become the greatest danger to world peace. A country that has assigned military command to almost all parts of the World. A country which is using its power in the UN to defy International court Rulings when they stand againest its interest. For the moment these military commands, which are being expanded in the pretext of fighting terrorism, might seem harmless, the problem comes when this planet's resources (Oil, Minerals etc) start to dwindle, then these forces will start to do the harm: protecting (acquiring) resources by force.

[Orrin_73]

8. What has this to do with bush or americans

The growing neo nazi tide in russia is a serious concern. It is not something made up by the us government.

[treestar]

11. I could see Bushco making hay of it, using it like 911

They always need an enemy. The PNAC and the military industrial complex. So some caution might be in order as to considering the seriousness of the problem in light of the fact that Bushco seems to be realizing that Muslim terror is not going to keep the MIC rolling in dough that well. So they seem to be looking to revive the old enemy, which was, after all, more equal.

But you're right, this stuff is of concern on its own. There and here.

[nealmhughes]

13. Yep, after North America the richest piece of a chunk of the earth ever offered anyone. . .

and they play games with their future when they could become the most advanced industrial power since the US has abandoned industry.

[entanglement]

15. Russia is actually experiencing a decline in population

n/t

[knitter4democracy]

10. I still don't get Russian Nazis.

The Nazis didn't think of the Russians as truly human. All that white power crap apparently didn't apply to Slavs. How any Russian who truly loves her motherland could ever do a nazi salute is beyond me.

I studied there for a semester in college in 1995. This is all so sad to read. It was hard for everyone then, and it's just gotten harder.

[starroute]

12. Except that the Russians aren't wrong about US subversion

Not to excuse the rise of red fascism, but the bits in the OP about "They have been taught to believe that the United States is actively preparing a pro-western revolution in their country" and their cracking down on the NGO's are not offbase.

The US has been using every tool in its possession both to maintain influence in the Central Asian republics which split off from the Soviet Union and to further fragment what remains of Russia along ethnic lines. I don't have a coherent narrative of what's been going on -- just a bunch of scattered notes -- but here are some of the relevant pieces:

- The role of the "pro-democracy" NGO's, such as the International Republican Institute, which have been behind many or all of the "color" revolutions. These groups are primarily funded by the National Endowment for Democracy, which was set up in the 80's to outsource many of the regime change functions formerly carried on by the CIA. Since 2001, the NED has been headed by Bush intimate and "super-lobbyist" Vin Weber, and the groups it endows have been deeply implicated in questionable dealings in Haiti and in supporting the coup against Chavez. They have also been increasingly active in the Balkans, Central Asia, and the Middle East. Russia is not wrong to be suspicious of them.

- US support for Islamic terrorism in Central Asia as a means of undermining pro-Russian governments. This is a continuation of US support for al Qaeda in the 80's -- as well as the more recent support of many Neocons for the Chechen separatists in the 90's -- and, as Seymour Hersh has recently pointed out, is a continuing source of blowback, where our pet terrorists turn round and bit us in the ass.

- The role of the exiled Russian oligarchs, such as Boris Berezovsky, which in turn gets tangled up with the Russian-Israeli Mafia, drug smuggling, arms dealing, and even wilder stuff, such at the Litvinenko poisoning. All this further ties in with the darker corners of the global underworld that Peter Dale Scott has covered intensively if not always intelligibly.

- The theories of Bernard Lewis about using ethnic nationalism to fragment the Middle East, which have been widely adopted by both Neocons and "realists" in the US. We can see these ideas clearly on display in the US sponsorship of insurgent ethnic minority groups in Iran (Kurds, Balochs, etc.), but they are also behind Western encouragement of the fascist pan-Turanian (ie, pan-Turkish) nationalists in Central Asia. Most of this kind of meddling is directed against Russian influence, but it reaches ethnic minorities in China as well, such as the Uighurs.

The upshot of all this is that there is a very real war going on almost totally under the radar, which the Russians are entirely aware of, even if we in the US are not. The core of it, as nearly as I can tell, is that geostrategic thinkers in the US see the 21st century as being dominated by a struggle by the US against Russia and China for world domination, with Central Asia and the Middle East as the linchpin of that struggle.

That is also why we are stuck in Iraq for the long run. Even the "realists" surrounding Bush Sr. who were opposed to invading Iraq -- seeing it as a Neocon diversion of the real struggle to benefit their friends in Israel -- now have to be wary of getting out and leaving a power vacuum for the Russians and Chinese to fill. And it is why Iran -- which has been the gateway to Central Asia for the last 50,000 years -- is currently such a focus of obsessive activity.

The US is in the uneasy position of trying to project more power into Russia and China's own backyard than they can exert there themselves. And since that is probably an unrealistic expectation, Plan B is to sow chaos and fragmentation in the region instead.

That is what Putin knows and we don't. But, paradoxically, any appeal to Russian white nationalism, though it may seem to strengthen national coherence in the short run, can only increase ethnic fragmentation down the road. It's got to be a nasty puzzle for the Russians -- and one from which the US is pretty much exempt. (Though I can't help wondering if some of the maneuvering and rhetoric over Hispanic immigration grows out of a covert fear that the same tactic might yet be turned against us.)

[entanglement]

16. Interesting - there's an MTV logo on that Neo Nazi pop video

n/t