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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:20 PM
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General who investigated US troops sexually humiliating Iraqis at Abu Ghraib prison-Rumsfeld lied
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070616/pl_afp/usiraqmilitaryprison_070616234741

US defense chiefs denied knowledge of Abu Ghraib abuse

1 hour, 28 minutes ago

NEW YORK (AFP) - A general who investigated US troops sexually humiliating Iraqis at
Abu Ghraib prison said in a report out Saturday that top Pentagon officials denied knowledge of lurid photographs of the acts.

Army Major General Antonio Taguba said he met with then secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld and other top officials and described to them some of the contents of a report he had prepared on the notorious prison.

But Rumsfeld testified before Congress the following day that he had no idea of the extent of the abuse, Taguba told the New Yorker magazine in an interview.

"He's trying to acquit himself and a lot of people who are lying to protect themselves," the magazine quoted him as saying, referring to Rumsfeld's May 7, 2004 testimony.

The photographs taken by US jailers humiliating prisoners who were naked or hooded, on leashes or piled in a pyramid, rocked the world, becoming one of the few things President George W. Bush has said he regretted about the war.

Taguba said that he described to Rumsfeld what he termed the "torture" of "a naked detainee lying on the wet floor, handcuffed, with an interrogator shoving things up his rectum," the magazine reported.

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:22 PM
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1. I read the article in The New Yorker. It's devastating.
:cry:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:24 PM
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2. Do we have a prayer of Rumsfeld ever being brought up on charges for his crimes?
As it is I'm sure he sleeps quite well at night, and I'd just love to see his rest disturbed by his being hauled into court and having the case dragged out for years.

Hekate

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:24 PM
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3. Rumsfeld Congress and Bush knew all about it and
encouraged it... we have some sick bastards in office
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:48 PM
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4. Deja vu! It's "plausible deniability" all over again.

The list of abused generals seems to be growing all the time, too.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:49 PM
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5. disgusting n/t
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 08:56 PM
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6. 'i was legally prevented from invesigating higher ups'
so who the hell is so sick that they ordered these people to torture by shoving stuff up rectums?
bush? cheney? rumsferatu? this came right down the line noone made it up for themselves.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:16 PM
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7. Yes, who authorized this kind of torture?
Some one very sick.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:21 PM
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8. all roads lead to big dick cheney
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 07:46 AM
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13. All roads keep leading back to either Rove or Cheney. I guess we have 3 sociopaths in the WH.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:08 PM
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9. tell me again why impeachment is off the table
tell me again that the Dems don't want to look bad by impeaching Bush and Cheney, we are talking about crimes about humanity here,
and I have read that over 85% of those placed in Abu Ghraib were innocent of any crime.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:15 PM
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10. most i think, feel it was a directive from higher up and not the grunts
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:24 PM
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11. can't we please, please, please get one well-placed whistleblower?
Edited on Sat Jun-16-07 10:25 PM by frogcycle
PLEASE?


one person "in the know" who can say "on such-and-such date, Preaident Bush instructed x to do y"

y could be 9/11, it could be Abu Ghraib, Plame, whatever. Just lets get the simple unassailable first-peraon story from an eyewitness. Then finally they can be frog-marched out of there in handcuffs.

PLEASE?

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:42 AM
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16. I'd think Army Major General Antonio Taguba would fit that bill, but will
anyone take action? That is the question, and the likely answer is 'no'.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 11:20 PM
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12. Early on that was seen as a "first step" to winning hearts and minds of Iraqi's.
The Way the Bushies bring Freedom and Democracy is with grotesque torture and inhumanity. Bragging with pictures of Saddam's sons and keeping Saddam's pistol in the Oval Office... Raiding Tariq Azziz's home and trashing pictures of his family plus going through his video collection where "Sleepless in Seattle" and many other Western movies were prominent. (He was Ambassador to the US who tried to negotiate to stop the war). The looting of the Iraqi's antiquities...on and on an on.

Winning hearts and minds ....the Bush Crime Family way. :-(
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:18 AM
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14. Treason at it's foulest n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:35 AM
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15. and yet they're still in office
and/or still walking around free

and we have all kinds of excuses for it


we don't have enough votes to stop torture
we don't have enough votes to stop a war criminal President

seriously, anyone that can say that without flinching is beyond help

America...the land of the free and the home of the brave...the country that boast of human rights and a government of the people...can't.stop.torture.

Something is seriously wrong with America
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