Romney's evangelical problem on front page of LA Times

[yurbud]

Having been an evangelical myself for eight years, I could see this coming. The religious right cares more about theology and symbolic issues than anything of substance.

The parts of the article that jumped out at me though were a couple of doofuses at a Christian bookstore discussing why they want a (born again) Christian president:

Here's the problem with electing a Mormon president, as Jason Thurman sees it: "I don't believe he would be guided by God."

Thurman, 26, is tidying the annotated Bibles in the Shepherd's Fold bookstore. Over by the rack of Christian CDs, his co-worker Marty Thomas raises a similar concern.

"When it comes right down to it," says Thomas, 40, "a Mormon's strength is human. A Christian person's strength is superhuman. I want (a president) who has that extra on his side."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-mormons16jun16,1,6904628.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

I'd like to know how he applies this logic to Bush--does he think Bush is not a Christian, or that God is making him a superhuman fuck up?

[Vincardog]

1. He is making himself a superhuman fuck up in HIS god's name

[WindRavenX]

2. Mormons ARE Christian

Even on DU, there are those that dispute that.

[hlthe2b]

5. some fundamentalist "Christians" dispute Catholics are Christian

as well-

:shrug:

[Left Is Write]

7. The evangelical born agains do not believe in the Christianity....

of many Christian sects.

I'm a liberal, ELCA Lutheran. I think I was born fine the first time, and I was baptized as an infant. I would not pass the Christianity litmus test for many of these evangelicals.

[yurbud]

8. they are polytheists with Christian trappings

they believe that god was once a man and became god by having a lot of kids until he had his own universe, and then his kids did the same and so on down to modern mormons.

It's kind of like Amway.

The relationship is a lot like that between Islam and the Nation of Islam. They look like parts of the same thing until you start reading what the Nation believes.

[TahitiNut]

3. Faith: "who're you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?"

Those who know the joke for this punch line get it. :evilgrin: (In business, it's called "perception management.") :puke:

"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire." (Matthew 18:9)

The psychotic right is loaded with folks whose blindness is self-inflicted.

[kurth]

4. What does the 'Heavenly Mother' look like?

Is she hot?

"Smith published his translation in 1830. Members of his church consider the Book of Mormon a holy text, a revelation from God, on par with the Bible. That alone is heretical to Christians of most denominations.

Smith laid out other novel theologies as well: Mormons hold that God is made of flesh and bone. He's all-powerful and all-knowing, but not mysterious; he has a physical body just like man's, and he's even married to a Heavenly Mother. And man can become God-like after death, a concept called ultimate deification.

Mormons also believe God communicates with modern prophets — such as the president of their church. In 1978, for instance, the Mormon president announced God had directed him to open the church to full participation by blacks, though the Book of Mormon describes dark skin as a divine mark of disfavor. Mormons fully accept the New Testament account of Christ's life and resurrection, which in their view makes them Christian. But they don't accept the doctrine of the Trinity — Father, Son and Holy Ghost as one entity. Instead, they view God and Jesus as separate beings, both of flesh and blood. Given these beliefs, traditional Christians tend to view Mormonism as a cult. That perception is reinforced by the church's secrecy, which officials say is necessary to protect their sacred ceremonies.

Outsiders cannot enter a Mormon temple after it's been dedicated. Even practicing Latter-day Saints must have a recommendation from their bishop to attend temple weddings and other rituals. (In the most controversial of those rites, known as baptism by proxy, Mormons scour historical records for names, then induct the dead — by the millions — into the faith, to give them a chance at salvation.)"

[yurbud]

9. Donna Reed

[smtpgirl]

6. Jason Thurman is the biggest asshole in LA

What a tool and a fool.

I can't believe that people say and believe these things.

What makes him GOD anyway to say Mormon is not a Christian religion?

From a non-believer of relgions & Gods.

Bush is NOT A CHRISTIAN, he is the Anti-Christ.

Maybe Jason should some of JAy Bakker's sermons. Jason might learn something.