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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:38 PM
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Scientists Examine Cause of Bee Die-Off
http://www.enn.com/today.html?id=12961&ref=rss

LEWISBURG, Pa. -- Scientists investigating a mysterious ailment that killed many of the nation's honeybees are concentrating on pesticides and a new pathogen as possible culprits, and some beekeepers are already trying to keep their colonies away from pesticide-exposed fields.

After months of study, researchers are finding it difficult to tie the die-off to any single factor, said Maryann Frazier, a senior extension associate in Penn State University's entomology department.

"Two things right now ... that are really keeping us focused are the pathogen and the role of pesticides," Frazier said.

Scientists from Penn State and the U.S. Department of Agriculture are leading the research into colony-collapse disorder, including study of the yet-to-be identified pathogen, a microorganism capable of causing disease.
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Heres the interesting part of this article

Some of the neonicotinic pesticides are available in stores to homeowners, though some bottles may not have the same warning labels as those available commercially, researchers and beekeepers said. Bayer officials said they were not aware of the issue but were looking into it.

Bingo cause I have looked and some pesticides for home use does not have those warnings...WHY FREAKIN NOT???
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:41 PM
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1. But they are completely ignoring genetically altered engineered plants
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:43 PM
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3. I can't help but wonder if this is a "perfect storm". Genetically modified plants, pesticides
Edited on Sat Jun-16-07 09:54 PM by cryingshame
being used on crops that are toxic to bees and large scale industrial hives that use chemicals on their bees which end up causing more virulent diseases etc.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:45 PM
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4. ..... if by that you mean that they have decided that they are not the cause,
and are now looking at the things which are likely to be the cause.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:45 PM
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5. beleive me I noticed that and suspect it too
the obvious thing is the smoke screen and how scientists are so slow to find out and beekeepers are taking their own action
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:41 PM
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2. the repuke EPA might as well be terrorists intentionally trying to kill us all
fucking repukes
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:47 PM
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6. My problem is why don't they post the warning labels
that commercial users get on the bottles unsuspecting home users use on their lawns and homes???

Bayer whats up with that???
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:53 PM
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14. a corporation?
a pharmaceutical corporation?

a repuke EPA?

are you asking a rhetorical question?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:53 PM
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7. These big businesses kill off small businesses, like these beekeepers, with no repercussions. (nt)
Edited on Sat Jun-16-07 09:53 PM by w4rma
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:54 PM
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8. My son watched a bee special and said according to the report...its MITES
There seems to be a mite of some sort that devastates hives...and its only a matter of time before the whole continent goes beeless. Then the World......

If true....the First Major Human Die off will follow soon thereafter....

The Population keeps rising

The Food production is steady

The deficit in food is growing.

Enter bees disappearing, rising ocean Levels, diminishing fisheries, diminishing fuel for tractors/etc, and we have a Problem..

More important is our President who is not interested in Science...rejects the whole notion of Global Warming, etc and thus wastes precious time to address the Problem...Because the Pubs care not for the Future, having bet lock stock and Barrel on the Rapture, Bush and the GOP have their heads up their asses....

Even beyond worse, the Crony Factor under Bush prevent Solutions...his appointees have been a major F/U

Under the GOP...We have been F/k'd now they made sure We be fuck'd again in the Future....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:07 PM
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12. the mites may be more of an effect than a cause...
i.e.- a hive decimated by ccd is more susceptible to the mites.

it's most likely a combination of pesticides, and gm-crops with imbedded pesticides of their own.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:32 PM
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13. Whatever it is...we had better find the solution really quick...where is the research monies?
Lets crank it up....this is series....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 07:25 AM
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17. it's not as series as some have made it out to be-
not ALL honeybee colonies are dying off- the organic guys aren't having any problems at all, from what i understand.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:22 AM
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18. Thank you...
:toast:
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Californian Dreamer Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:02 PM
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9. What I remember from an earlier post...
There was a pesticide that Bayer was selling in France, that killed of 70% or so of the bees there in the same way they disappeared here. They managed to ban it over there, it never happened here of course.

Does anyone remember the details on that?

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:04 PM
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11. the name of the pesticide sounded like nicotine?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 11:01 PM
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15. If I'm not mistaken, it is a derivative of nicotinic acid, but there...
a lot of pesticides and other thnigs that use nictotine derivatives.

Nicotine is a highly addictive poison, as any smoker will tell you.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 10:02 PM
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10. Science demands that all possibilities be looked at, it may be a
Edited on Sat Jun-16-07 10:03 PM by rasputin1952
combination of problems, not a single issue.

Once some fool company says they are clea of any implications, it could well be that GE foods and a combination of another or more situations lev the bees open to all kinds of problems.

W/O the bees, a lot of people are going to starve, we are seriously dependent upon them. No wheel spinning on this issue, the ramifications are far too great...x(
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 11:22 PM
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16. LOL - "Summer of the Shark" all over again.
In any case, I hope the bees that live in the bushes near my front door die soon.
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