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Sun Jun-17-07 11:00 AM
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Lawrence O'Donnell on the Mclaughlin Group: The Dem. Nominee will choose Wes Clark as VP. |
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Just a little interesting prediction I heard that kind of makes sense when you think about it.
Oh, and Mclaughlin thinks that Gore will be Hillary's greatest challenge.
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Sun Jun-17-07 11:03 AM
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1. Gore/Clark is my dream ticket. n/t |
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Sun Jun-17-07 11:04 AM
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2. So I guess both those predictions are good for you. |
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Sun Jun-17-07 01:16 PM
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15. Gore/Clark would suit me just fine. nt |
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Sun Jun-17-07 01:54 PM
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18. indie, I like your way of thinkin' |
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Gore/Clark, that works for me.
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Sun Jun-17-07 07:16 PM
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20. Mine, too, but since I am not confident that Gore will run, |
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I spend my time wishing for Clark/Obama or Clark/Edwards.
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Sun Jun-17-07 07:18 PM
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I LOVE both those guys, what a GREAT team they would be! :thumbsup:
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Sun Jun-17-07 09:28 PM
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I have been saying "Gore/Clark = dream team" since 2004!
Except if Gore doesn't run, then Obama/Clark will be fine with me!
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Sun Jun-17-07 09:40 PM
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25. Gore/Clark would be awesome!!! |
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Mon Jun-18-07 02:53 AM
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31. Gore/Clark would no doubt get my vote! n/t |
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Sun Jun-17-07 11:08 AM
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3. Lawrence O'Donnell has been known to make sense often enough |
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compared to the rest of the pundits.....
Good calls.
Doesn't mean it will happen.
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Sun Jun-17-07 11:09 AM
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4. I hear his name, and I think West Wing. That is enough for me to love him. |
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Sun Jun-17-07 11:12 AM
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It doesn't make sense for a man of Clark's abilities to take that office.
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Sun Jun-17-07 12:54 PM
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14. Clark cares about serving his country |
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and if he is asked to serve his country as VP, I suspect he will do it.
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Sun Jun-17-07 11:42 AM
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6. This is just a hunch, but |
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Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 11:43 AM by DFW
I think Hillary already believes Gore is her biggest challenge. I think nothing would relieve her campaign so much as a statement from Al Gore to the tune of, "let me end the speculation right now. There is positively and definitely no way in the world I will be running, so you all can just forget it and concentrate your efforts elsewhere. I appreciate the thoughts, but I have stuff I'm doing, it's what I like doing, it's what I want to be doing, and it's what I will continue to be doing. Thank you all for listening."
Until (and if) Gore comes out with such a statement, my bet is that the wariest eye the Hillary campaign is casting is still on the man from Tennessee. If I were in their position, I would be, too.
Don't get me wrong, Hillary's campaign would love nothing more than to concentrate on challenges from Obama and Edwards, as well as the radical right's all-out war against her (kinda stupid, seeing as how ALL other major Democratic candidates will be less to their liking if we win). But unless and until Gore says no way no how, I think he's the shadow Hillary (as well as the others) is seeing over her shoulder.
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Sun Jun-17-07 11:53 AM
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7. Clark would be a great choice for any of the candidates. |
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He brings quite a bit to the table.
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Sun Jun-17-07 11:57 AM
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8. I like Clark as VP, can't see him running with Hillary |
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Sun Jun-17-07 11:57 AM
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9. I hope that's true--especially if Obama wins. |
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Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 11:58 AM by rocknation
Clark would make up for Obama's lack of foreign policy and military experience. And between them, they'd bring in women, minorities, veterans, religious moderates, the South, and the young.
:headbang: rocknation
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Sun Jun-17-07 09:05 PM
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22. Obama/Clark would be a good ticket |
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but why did Clark say "he won't be anyone's dick cheney" to an in-experienced president - which would rule out Obama, who doesn't have much foreign policy or Senate experience.
I think it was stupid for Clark to make that statement, it will come back to haunt him if it is Obama/Clark.
I don't know why he said it - it doesn't make anyone involved look good.
IMO he should jump at the chance to be VP - and it would help us win the election and bring in military votes - politics is all about winning elections.
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Mon Jun-18-07 02:58 AM
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32. Yes, but saying that doesn't rule out his being Obama's VP mate. |
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Clark would simply have to say that Obama is eminently experienced, and relative to W he most certainly is.
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Tue Jun-19-07 12:36 PM
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36. ha, does that make me more experienced than W? |
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Sun Jun-17-07 11:57 AM
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10. I certainly wouldn't object! |
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Sun Jun-17-07 11:58 AM
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11. It's what should have happened in 2004 |
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It's a fantastic idea, particularly for my guy...Better late than never.
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Sun Jun-17-07 12:47 PM
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12. It doesn't make much sense to me... |
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it seems, at core, to be a way of saying "Wes Clark is really the only one out there we can all agree is qualified to be POTUS, so let's make him Vpotus to make sure someone we aren't sure about becomes POTUS".
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Sun Jun-17-07 12:52 PM
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13. It will give the ticket more strength on National Security |
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An issue Democrats seem to have trouble getting traction on. Clark is the perfect choice for VP as long as Republicans constantly talk about the threat of terrorism.
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Sun Jun-17-07 01:32 PM
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16. Back in 2003-04 Bill Clinton said that Hillary and Wes Clark were rising starts in the Dem party |
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so you know that Bill wanted Hillary to be prez and Clark vp. Hillary will need Clark's credentials if she wants to win the White House.
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Sun Jun-17-07 01:52 PM
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17. I miss O'Donnell's commentary on Al Franken's radio show |
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Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 01:52 PM by herbster
Now I only see him on Big Love...
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Sun Jun-17-07 07:16 PM
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19. If Clark can't be our nominee, I would want him as VP. |
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A Clark/Obama or Clark/Edwards ticket would be better, but even as VP, he would bring power to the ticket.
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Sun Jun-17-07 09:31 PM
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24. Maybe this is why he hasn't announced? It's already in the works? |
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Sun Jun-17-07 10:40 PM
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26. I love O'Donnell but he said the 2000 election was over when Gore picked Lieberman |
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...and he didn't mean over as in a loss. I guess he was correct factually, given Lieberman's betrayal in Florida.
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Sun Jun-17-07 10:41 PM
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27. No Problem With That Whatsoever. |
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I think Clark would make a great VP, to whoever gets the nod.
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Mon Jun-18-07 12:47 AM
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28. If the Dem nominee is Gore or Obama, I think this is a good possibility. |
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I don't see Clark as Clinton's VP, however.
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Mon Jun-18-07 02:42 AM
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29. Leaning Clinton here and I would definitely support Clark |
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as the vice presidential candidate. He's strong and that would give him enough time to get even better for a possible presidential run later.
If not that, then he REALLY needs to be used in the next Democratic administration - this man's skills cannot be wasted. (As a matter of fact, if it didn't clear out the Senate, I would say that a lot of the other candidates would be worthwhile in an administration.)
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Mon Jun-18-07 02:53 AM
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30. Well that seals it. I'm voting for the Democratic nominee in '08. n/t |
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Mon Jun-18-07 03:07 AM
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33. Both points may be prescient. Clark would likely be on a short list |
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Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 03:13 AM by Old Crusoe
of veep possibilities, at least it seems that way to me. He's got that Arkansas thing goin' and a general on the ticket would help shore up our nominee's profile among many voters. Also I don't see any Republicans who could match him in a debate.
I wouldn't rule out Governor Richardson, who, if he does not win the nomination, would bring a good deal of diplomatic skill to an administration, plus energy influence, and very likely lots of Hispanic voters.
It may not be Brian Schweitzer's time yet, but it wouldn't disappoint me to see him on our ticket. He's refreshing as hell, a successful politican, confident in his bones, clear and effective as a governor, and he has a great dog.
Evan Bayh opted out of the presidential race but it might be interesting to see if putting him on the ticket could put Indiana into play. Indiana's gone red for a long time now and it would be a kind of release from bondage to flip the place to blue. In 1968 Robert F. Kennedy won the Indiana primary over a favorite son. The state really hasn't seen as dynamic a Democratic election like that one since.
I think O'Donnell is a keen soul and I don't discount his prediction, but I think it omits a key variable from the formula, namely whether Michael Bloomberg decides on an indepedent run. If he does, there's a chance that his liberal position on social issues will draw many Democratic and independent votes away from our ticket, unless our nominee, no matter who it is, keeps them down on the farm with a persuasively progressive veep nominee. For some that might mean Wes Clark, for others Chris Dodd. It likely wouldn't mean Tom vilsack or Evan Bayh. But a possible Bloomberg candidacy might have quite a bit more to do with our ticket's veep nom than any list of virtues of individual aspirants.
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Mon Jun-18-07 01:30 PM
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34. honest to god, he can go with his international prestige and fix shit |
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this would make me okay if I died, it matters this much to me. I could pass and not be sad.
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Mon Jun-18-07 01:37 PM
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35. It does make sense really for any of them. |
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