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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:36 PM
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Christopher Hitchens: Scooter is going to jail because he made a telephone call to Tim Russert

http://www.slate.com/id/2168642/

Free Scooter LibbyThe case gets weirder by the day.
By Christopher Hitchens


If Scooter Libby goes to jail, it will be because he made a telephone call to Tim Russert and because Tim Russert has a different recollection of the conversation. Can this really be the case? And why is such a nugatory issue a legal matter in the first place?

...

The call to Russert was not about Plame in any case; it was a complaint from the vice president's office about Chris Matthews, who was felt by some to have been overstressing the Jewish names associated with the removal of Saddam Hussein. Russert was called in his capacity as bureau chief; any chitchat about Wilson and Plame was secondary.

Does it not seem extraordinary that a man can be prosecuted, and now be condemned to a long term of imprisonment, because of an alleged minor inconsistency of testimony in a case where it is admitted that there was no crime and no victim?

I know of a senior lawyer in Washington who is betting very good money that if the case is heard again on appeal, the conviction will be reversed. This is for three further reasons, which I call to your attention.



:crazy:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:38 PM
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1. "No crime and no victim"?
OK, Chris. Put down the bottle of Tanqueray and slowly back away from the keyboard.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:38 PM
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2. Have another drink, Hitch.....Christ, that guy is a piece of work!!!!! nt
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:39 PM
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3. Does that drunk
actually believe the stuff he writes?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:39 PM
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4. That's like saying someone is going to jail for moving their arm.
If they stabbed someone else.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:46 PM
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12. Bingo.
Hitchens' brain is succumbing to drink. In the past this kind of lame logic would have not even occurred to him.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:40 PM
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5. Hey, Tosser! Scooter is going to jail because he
OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE.

If he'd gone states' evidence and had sung like a little birdie about Cheney and Rove, he'd be a free man!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:40 PM
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6. He is going to jail because he lied and obstructed justice
All he had to do was tell the truth... All this other crap is just that, crap, and right wing talking points....

He was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice, not outing a CIA agent... He broke the freaking law....


Christopher Hitches is either drinking or needs a drink, I am not sure which one it is....
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:40 PM
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7. Hitchens--once again, about as useful as tits on a bull
I see he's reverted to his apparently natual state, that of dumbass neocon thug.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:41 PM
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8. how funny is that?
all three of us were thinking the same thing
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:41 PM
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9. ...shaking my head slowly.....
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:44 PM
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10. This is worse, because Hitchens is not stupid. He's simply
obtuse and purposefully ignorant of the effect that the lies spread by Cheney, Libbey et al had on starting Hitchen's favorite war.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:45 PM
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11. I don't read writers who use the word "nugatory"
And the fact that Hitchens is using it as part of the "Free Scooter" movement is doubly disgusting.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:48 PM
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13. Noooooo.....
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 01:51 PM by lisa58
...Scooter is going to jail because he remembered, in detail, a conversation that never happened and couldn't remember anything else - and thought that Russert would never testify.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:49 PM
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14. "Can this really be the case?" Um...no. It really CAN'T, and it ISN'T, and you KNOW THAT!
Whatta douchebag.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:50 PM
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15. "Tim Russert has a different recollection of the conversation"
Well, Russert and the other witnesses against Scooter's version of events. It's amazing the talking points never include those people or the fact that the jury convicted on all counts except one.

It's almost like they are trying to obfuscate the matter. :eyes:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:52 PM
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16. A.S.S.H.O.L.E.
no offense to actual anuses.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:54 PM
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17. Hitchens reminds me of the Bruce Willis character in "Bonfire of the Vanities"
A once decent reporter, now on the downside thanks, in part, to excessive vices.

Still a hoot at parties, no doubt.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:55 PM
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18. "it is admitted that there was no crime and no victim?"
:wtf: Who admitted that? It wasn't the CIA or the prosecutor. The only people I've heard admitting to that are the right wing gasbags that keep repeating every chance they get.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:59 PM
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19. "no crime". . . uhhhh can you say "obstruction of justice & perjury"
in an investigation that was looking into treasonous behavior?

"no victim". . .ahh tell it to the Wilsons and the worldwide network of employees and contacts of Brewster Jennings and the speculative claims that outing has resulted in more than 70 directly related deaths. To say nothing of the further allegations that B & J may have sabotaged the planting of WMD's in Iraq via Turkey in '03 or that they may have had leads to expose crashcart's connection with the Pakistani running a "nuclear WalMart" who sold nuclear technology to Iran and South Korea or that it's totally trashed a half a century of diplomatic efforts.

Okay taking off my tin foil now. It's getting hot.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:02 PM
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20. Eventually, Hitchens will end up in prison for killing someone while intoxicated.
I'm sure he'll defend his, Libby's and the neocons' crimes 'til the day he dies 'cause, well, they are all innocent DONCHA' KNOW?!!!!
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:15 PM
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21. "...Given the unsoundness of the verdict,..."
Given the unsoundness of the verdict?

Gee, I guess the jury should have convened in Hitchens favorite pub so he could have counseled them during their deliberations.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:18 PM
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22. Who gives two shakes of a rat's ass
what that inebriate thinks? My dog's opinion is more relevant--because she thinks more clearly.
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:37 PM
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23. Hitchens is not great - at logic or facts
1. It's true the call to Russert was a complaint, but not about Jewish names or Saddam Hussein: "Tim Russert recounted that he had a conversation with the vice president's then-chief of staff, Scooter Libby, on or around June 10, 2003. Basically, Scooter Libby called him, had a complaint, was very angry, used some very clear and firm language, and wanted Chris Matthews and 'Hardball' to stop saying that the vice president had sent someone to Niger." http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/jan-june07/libby_02-07.html

2. It's true that Scooter wasn't charged with breaking the IIPA - so shut up about it. He was charged with & convicted of PERJURY & OBSTRUCTION!

3. See Digby "Update": http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/03/rebutting-monsignor-by-digby-most-lefty.html

4. Why should someone with his extremely high level of security clearance be given a free pass if he is in fact as big an idiot as you claim? He can't remember where he learned about a CIA agent, allegedly wasn't sure she was covert but blabbed it to 3 reporters? He needs more than a memory expert. :crazy:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:43 PM
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25. .
Hitchens Is Not Great.
How Neocons Poison Everything.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:42 PM
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24. Libby is going to jail for one reason
A reason the republicans and their sympathizers want us to forget. HE LIED --- HE LIED UNDER OATH-----HE LIED TO A GRAND JURY.

Didn't the impeach a president for that. No matter in the mix about Valerie Plame at this point. He lied and that's what counts.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:51 PM
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26. Booze is a helluva drug. n/t
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