Not political, just a Gay question..

[fencesitter]

Not to be offensive, but a friend and I were wondering why Barbara Streisand, Judy Garland, Liza Minelli and now, Cyndi Lauper, are all considered gay icons.? Just wondering.

[TrogL]

1. I'm gay, I can't stand them

Streisand can't kick her NY accent.

Garland sang like a little girl when she wasn't.

Liza's fabulous outfits attempted to disguise her complete lack of bosom.

Cyndi's singing, if you can call it that, could peel paint.

[xchrom]

5. Gay Central Committee wants to see you in their orifices IMMEDIATELY.

[Malikshah]

9. Please bring appropriate equipment for flagellation.

We'll provide the restraints, whether we want to use them on ourselves or not...

[xchrom]

19. you know they bought cyndi lauper's handbag

at a charity auction just to keep the restraints in?

it was FABULOUS.

[unpossibles]

40. and don't forget to bring back the free toaster! n/t

[TrogL]

108. the toaster sucked

literally

Ouch

[xchrom]

110. trogl was one of those who got a panini machine -- in stainless i might add.

[ronnykmarshall]

20. GASP!

Oh I'm not EVER gonna touch THAT!

[xchrom]

24. oh come on now -- you know you want to.

but not til you're toooold--

[ronnykmarshall]

28. Strap 'em down!

I'll go first!

[xchrom]

30. lol -- seee -- if we give the old gay-ho -- we could have this thread

locked down in a new york second!

[William769]

22. Calling Gay mafia, calling Gay mafia.

[ronnykmarshall]

34. You rang?

I saw the big pink spotlight in the sky.

I've got on my latex out fit ...... who's ass needs to be ..... uh kicked?

[William769]

36. Ooops!

I was looking for Elton. :evilgrin:

[Malikshah]

90. Uh, there's a typo in your message. It's an "l" not "k"

No charge. (I'm a gay slut not a whore ;))

[karlrschneider]

87. Ditto here!

:D

[ProfessorGAC]

146. Not Gay and I Agree, Except For Your Fourth One

I like highly stylized singing like Cyndi's.
GAC

[xchrom]

2. cause they're Divas -- but if you're not gay

it's hard to 'splain why Divas are soooo atractive to us.

maria callas was -- before those guys -- and so on back through time.

[mitchtv]

16. Before Maria, there was Edith Piaf

who had an affair with Marlene Deitrich.

[xchrom]

21. oh god -- i still wet myself for edith!

god that woman could warble.

[tomreedtoon]

130. Not to be offensive, but it's image over substance.

And yes, that's a cliche, but it worked for every gay person I've ever known, and I did Rocky Horror for a long time, so I know.

Remember the scene in To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar? The transvestites choose a rickety pink Cadillac over a more sturdy car, and sure enough, it breaks down. Appearance is more important than functionality.

I mean, Barbra Streisand, the woman who put together the Triangle of Zinthos and damn near destroyed South Park - for no reason! And yet Robert Smith of The Cure blew her into outer space. Cyndi Lauper, who I personally liked, but who was ten times more talented than Madonna, but lost big time to Ms. Reinvention and now does county fairs for chump change.

There's only one group of people more involved in style over substance than gays. The big macho males who drive gas-guzzling SUV's and vote for Bush.

[bunkerbuster1]

143. So in essence, there are many stupid men out there.

who go for style over substance. Some are gay, and some are straight.

And this is political, or else we couldn't explain how it is that a untalented, unqualified little hack could ever make an election close enough to steal in 2000 and 2004. Bush never would have won if it weren't for the stupid-male vote.

[tomreedtoon]

152. I'd say more scared than stupid.

The stupid vote is probably a big hunk of Bush's remaining support. But most people voted for him out of pure fear.

It's important to remember that. If we want to change this country, we can't assume we're smart and that everyone else is stupid. Even if it's true, it's not the way to help people change. (And frankly, if we're so so smart, why ain't we rich?)

[William769]

3. I'ts a Gay thing, and I'll leave it at that.

[gatorboy]

4. Cyndi Lauper's a diva?

When that happen???

[William769]

10. Has been one for awhile now.

So Is Dolly Parton.

[gatorboy]

17. Dolly I knew. She's still a pretty active performer.

But I haven't heard anything from Cyndi in awhile.

[Kurovski]

13. 'Was just gonna say, never heard that one.

:shrug:

[William769]

18. Try this link.

http://gaylife.about.com/b/a/257090.htm

[TrogL]

107. There's quite a bit of inaccurate information there

The section on barebacking includes right-wing myths.

[truedelphi]

55. When she (and the other Gurls) had all that fun

[saracat]

6. I am not gay either but as I have worked in the theater, most of them are theatrical legends

and may gay persons work in the theater so it is natural that they would revere the icons of their business. I haven't a clue about Lauper though. You might also add Marilyn Monroe and Liz Taylor to that list.

[fencesitter]

14. Lauper is on the "True Colors" tour

[Malikshah]

7. Speaking for the entire GLBT community

;)

1) They are "larger than life" -- they transcend the normal staid trends in some people's eyes.

2) Some of them are tragic figures, having gone through their ups and downs (Country Western examples...Tammy Wynette, Dolly to an extent)

3) Exhibitions of support for the GLBT community to a degree

4) Do not play by the rules as a rule

At the same time as no doubt has been mentioned-- not all are universally loved/adored and can be turned on in a heartbeat at times for sundry reasons.

(i.e. the Donna Summer rumors and fiasco, the Cher-Chastity brouhaha, my personal tepidness with Streisand--much prefer Linda Eder and Lara Fabian)

[DURHAM D]

46. I didn't get the memo - are we supposed to

not like Cher?

[yardwork]

78. Psst. Cher was disappointed at first that Chastity is a lesbian.

But apparently she got over it.

[DURHAM D]

83. A funny story -

The summer that Sonny and Cher separated I was working at a resort area in southern Idaho. Lots of Hollywood people vacation there. A group of them told me that Cher was a lesbian and that was why Sonny was leaving her - he caught her with another woman. I wouldn't buy it but they insisted it was true. They said it was well known in the entertainment community that Cher was into girls.

And then all of those years later her daughter turns out to be ...

[Malikshah]

105. Well frost my tips and call me Liza! You mean, you didn't get the memo?

That is so like Mr. Slave to miss someone.

*Gets on Megayphone*

"Mr. Slave! Get out of that harness and get in hear now!"

*Voice from beyond*

"jesuschrist...."

[iamahaingttta]

8. Have you listened to their music?

Start there...

[maxsolomon]

11. I'm not gay & i'll tell you why

because they're Divas. although i don't know if Cyndy Lauper really belongs in your grouping, Divas are imperious, talented, tragic, iconic, camp. SOME, not ALL, gay men identify with highly stylized, individual expression of emotion by women.

add Callas + Piaf.

[Ezlivin]

12. Gay icons?

Where can I get some of those?

My computer's desktop is rather straight and boring.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

81. Hmmm...

I sense a product opportunity: "Windows Gay Icons! $39.95 a set! Collect them all!".

[ronnykmarshall]

15. Oh where do I start?

First we must correct your spelling. It's "Barbra" not "Barbara".

We're only hitting the tip of the Gay-berg with above mentioned divas. But I digress.

Judy - One of the reasons of La Garland's popularity is "The Wizard of Oz". That's a biggy with us homer-sexuals. "Oz" represents a land where people of all types are excepted. One of the reason the gay flag is a rainbow is because of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow". Which is our unoffical national anthem. Other reason is that Judy herself represented struggle. She fought hard, loved hard and drank hard. She also married two gay men. Her over the top performances are almost like watching a campy drag queen. PLUS the of her funeral started the Stonewall Riots in NYC. Which is basically the start of the modern day gay rights movement.

Liza - Daugther of Judy.

Barbra - A misfit. A strong woman with her own vision of what is the norm. She was "different" looking when she was younger. She's gutsy. She knows what she wants to hell with everyone else, does it her way.

Cyndi - Cyndi is like a Barbra for the 1980's. She like La Striesand is different. She also is very outspoken in her support of gay causes and AIDS. She's a real friend.

[ceile]

25. "Gay-berg"

love it! :rofl:

[fencesitter]

27. thanks!

that's mostly what I thought. I was thinking Liza's appeal went back to "Cabaret". I'm not gay, but I loved that movie.

[ronnykmarshall]

29. Cabaret had something to do with it as well.

That year she was nominated for the Oscar vs. Diana Ross ...... ooooooo WEEE!

Talk about a split of diva loyality!

The Rossers (fans of La Ross) still hate Liza over that one!

[William769]

32. Life is a Cabaret!

[MotorCityMan]

41. Plus, they are all fantastic singers/performers

Great response, ronnykmarshall.

You receive a gold star today for History of Gay Icons 101.

[DURHAM D]

44. Your response is very good.

I would add the following personal experiences of each:

Cyndi - gay sister.
Barbra - gay son.
Judy - gay husband (or two) and a gay father.
Liza - couple of gay husbands and a gay father.

Gay folk in the family can never hurt your appeal to the gay community.
Unless, of course, you turn on them and then your makeup and hair will be dreadful.

[ronnykmarshall]

48. Very good as well

Jason Gould .... what a good lookin guy he is.

Could you imagine being his boyfriend, however? Not I have EVER day dreamed about having Babs as my mother in law!!

The next best thing would have been having Jackie Kennedy.

[Scout1071]

99. Totally informative post. 4 stars. But, let's not forget Bette!

Gotta love Bette Midler.

[bear425]

121. I appreciate your thoughtful and informative answer.

I'd also like to add that Cyndi's sister is a lesbian and Cyndi is hosting "True Colors" tour this month. All awesome women mentioned.

[noamnety]

126. Barbra did Yentl - gotta love that

and her official website links to these:

1) Who would you rather share a foxhole with: a gay soldier or Mitt Romney?

2) The Surgeon General of the United States is supposed to be "America's chief health educator." But unfortunately, it is unlikely that Holsinger will give the American public sound "scientific" advice. Holsinger has a long history of prejudice toward gays and lesbians, once writing that homosexual behavior is "intuitively" unnatural.

3) Earth to G.O.P.: The Gipper Is Dead

http://www.barbrastreisand.com/index.php?page=interest

[slackmaster]

23. Because they are all fabulous?

I really don't know.

[SteelPenguin]

61. Heh that's what a friend of mine once said.

I was at his and his partner's apartment for a dinner party and looking at their CD's and asked him why gay people liked Judy Garland and Liza, and Barbara et all. He simply replied as if I asked what color the sky was, "Because they're fabulous."

[mitchtv]

26. This post needs to be waved around the GLBT forum

for more fun answers

[ronnykmarshall]

31. Lemme call the girls!

I'll cross post it.

[William769]

33. Is that like cross dressing?

[gatorboy]

37. Ask them about the tipping thing at drag shows.

Is it custom when someone starts performing for everyone to get up from their tables and start tipping them during the performance?

Friend was performing, first time at a show, our table looked like the assholes of the night for sitting their looking deer in headlightish.

[ronnykmarshall]

43. I'd saying during is good.

Them girls WORK for them tips.

[myrna minx]

141. I always tip during the performance.

Whether it be in Wausau Wisconsin for SanFran. :hi: She works hard for the money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKQcWEXSKU

[Buzz Clik]

35. What? No Bette Midler?

[William769]

38. Thats a given.

[avrdream]

39. That's what I was wondering.

And what about Madonna? Every gay bar I went to in the 80's played her music.

[Scout1071]

102. Ha! I just posted that above before I made it here.

Great Bette minds think alike.

[pepperbear]

42. a few reasons....

a combination of the following:

1. they're tragic figures (even barbra, who came from nothing)
2. they're over-the-top larger than life strong female figures, and that makes for great drag performances (true dat)
3. they openly and vocally champion gay rights
4. There is empathy in exploitation
5. they have genuine stage talent, and gays do like the theater.

consequently, you find the following among the list of gay icons:

1. Marilyn monroe
2. shelly winters
3. joan crawford
4. judy garland
5. barbra streisand
6. carol channing
7. celine dion
8. liza minelli
9. mae west
10.tina turner
11.jayne mansfield
12. cyndi lauper
13. madonna
14. diana ross
15. princess diana
16. dorothy dandridge
17. gloria swanson and her most famous character, norma desmond

and the list goes on and on....

[ronnykmarshall]

45. Also add ..

18. Stevie Nicks

19. The Supremes (even though you mentioned La Ross ..... I'm more of a fan of the group and not the big headed, stab your friends in the back stuck up diva as a solo)

[William769]

47. And Dolly Parton!

I saw her last month, I'm in love!

[myrna minx]

139. Don't forget the fabulous Tammy Wynette.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPjggN-KByI

http://www.dollywood.com/

:loveya:

[annarbor]

50. How could you possibly forget Cher????

No good drag show is complete without Cher!

Ann Arbor

[pepperbear]

68. true dat! n/t

[gatorboy]

52. Am I wrong about Ethel Merman?

[pepperbear]

64. and kathy griffin n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

86. Kathy Griffin is like god!

She's like your best straight girl friend you hang out with and talk shit about people.

Same with Margaret Cho.

[terrya]

65. Oh, hell no you're not wrong about the Merm.

I'd also add Angela Lansbury for the theater lovers.

[DURHAM D]

79. I know some who would argue against Ethel.

They would say - bad singer and bad dancer. All she had was volume. She could launch it to the back row and balcony of the theater before microphones.

She was also known to be pretty boorish in her behavior.

[mitchtv]

115. What? no Carol Channing?

Not for me but the older ones seem to loooove her
on edit I see peppper bear did not miss her in his compendium of Gay Icons

[ronnykmarshall]

84. Ethel's in the group as well.

The entire cast of "Auntie Mame" as well.

[pepperbear]

67. and I forgot ..

kathy griffin

[terrya]

70. And let's not leave Margaret Cho off the list.

[DURHAM D]

51. I would add -

Jenifer Holliday

[yardwork]

72. Billie Holliday

[terrya]

63. Maria Callas for the opera queens.

Hey, I'm not into that opera stuff, but I'll defend the right of my fellow gay boys who loves opera. :-)

[mitchtv]

114. Yum, just picked up Maria's "Medea"

used at the Gay operated thrift shop

[mitchum]

123. And Miss Tallulah Bankhead

[mitchtv]

148. How did we get so far down the thread without her?

she used to snort crushed aspirins, so it looked like she had coke!

[mitchum]

151. She was indeed a one of a kind...a Tallulahbaloo! :)

[Madspirit]

49. Stop

Stop stereotyping US and then asking why the stereotypes exist.

Often if someone is much loved by OUR community it's because they have a history of supporting us but you can't just make assumptions like that and ask it like an innocent question because first off, it's inane and second, it's not innocent. I mean why do straight men like Arnold and his Predator movies and why do straight women like Jane Eyre? 'Cause they all don't....though some do. It's just a stereotype.

...and for many we don't come in butch or femme though some do...just like other people....some play the feminine and masculine to heightened degrees and some don't. I see it more in straights actually.

Any other stereotyping questions?
Lee

[DURHAM D]

53. HappySpirit - please...

Girls just wanta have fun.

[Madspirit]

101. I DO love Cyndi Lauper

...but don't tell the OP...

Lee

[Buzz Clik]

54. "Any other stereotyping questions?" Well, I've always wondered about Eskimos rubbing noses...

[Madspirit]

91. You're Going to Be So Sorry You Asked : >

Buzz Clik asks: Well, I've always wondered about Eskimos rubbing noses...


Unfortunately I found one of the most comprehensive answers on Jewish World Review, an EXTREMELY conservative website. (They have links to people like Ann Coulter.) Still, I imagine this non-controversial fact stuff is accurate:

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0205/glad_u_asked.asp

Q: Why do Eskimos rub noses rather than kiss? - Jacquelin Peters

A: It's not so much rubbing noses as sniffing someone you love - their nose, cheeks, forehead - in a nuzzily show of affection.

And it's not done instead of kissing. It's usually a greeting rather than a romantic overture. In fact, in some northern cultures this is only done between mothers and children.

So the mental image we might have had of the "Eskimo kiss" was misleading. And that's true of some other stereotypes.

For instance, there's not one Eskimo people. There's the Kalaallit in Greenland, the Inuvialuit in Canada, and the Inupiaq, Yuplit, and Alutiiq in Alaska - just to name a few. Some Alaskan indigenous people accept the term Eskimo. Other peoples consider it offensive, because it was a label applied by Europeans and others. The arctic peoples of Canada and Greenland in general prefer the term Inuit.

And while some peoples did once live in ice block houses in central and eastern Canada, igloos were rare in Greenland and unknown in Alaska. Few remain anywhere now.

So what is behind nose-rubbing?

David Joanasi, information officer of Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami, a group representing the Inuit, says he grew up with this custom in northern Canada.

In his culture "it's called a kunik," he says. "When you're an infant and a little kid, your parents and grandparents and older siblings sniff you and rub your face with their nose."

When partners come home at night they might share a kunik to smell each other and nuzzle. There are scent glands in the cheeks, and rediscovering their smell this way is intimate and loving.

"I do it to my girlfriend," Joanasi says. "But I wouldn't do it in front of a large audience, the same way you wouldn't French kiss your partner in front of a bunch of kindergartners."

Yet it's not a big part of lovemaking - like kissing. "No, it's not like kissing in that way," Joanasi says. "It's just affectionate."

Erin Eckman, who is half-Inupiaq, works for the Alaska Native Heritage Center.

"Growing up in Alaska, I only really saw women do it to babies," she says.

So, if nose-rubbing isn't done instead of kissing, do native peoples of the North kiss? "Sure," she says.

END OF ARTICLE

...and there's even a record company called:

Eskimo Kiss Records:
http://www.eskimokissrecords.com/about.html

[ronnykmarshall]

85. Oh my god!

Um, I don't think the OP meant anything offensive by that.

Good god! My MOM asked me questions like that for the love of Judy!

[Madspirit]

89. It Wasn't "Mom"

It was a total stranger throwing out a stereotype about certain people without even a howdy doody first...<g>

I wasn't really offended...that much. If she can ask questions about My people though before she even knows us and in front of metaphor-y god and everybody, spreading silliness about us, I can give her a slight hard time.

Lee

[Madspirit]

97. ...and consider this

Wackiness can lead to more wackiness. Next thing you know someone will ask us:

How DO YOU do it?


...and we don't want to go there now do we? ; P
Lee

[hootinholler]

137. Do what?

:evilgrin:
-Hoot

[mitchtv]

147. be nice to the tourists

maybe cause I live in a tourist area,

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

93. Did the person who shat on FinnFan's wheaties shat on yours too?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x6624128#6625619

[Madspirit]

98. FinnFan was right!

That WAS what the thread was for. : P
Lee

[Toasterlad]

116. Lighten Up, Francine. n/t

[Madspirit]

118. Excuse me

I'll do what I feel. ...and I did elaborate and lighten up if you bothered to read any of my answers...not that I owe YOU one.
You don't know me. Don't tell me how to react to anything.
Lee

[Toasterlad]

119. It Was Only a Suggestion, Milady. n/t

[myrna minx]

140. This house is just like Architectural Digest, Francine!

:hi:

[terrya]

56. Don't forget Cher

And Ms. Lauper, as you mentioned, is the impetus behind the "True Colors" tour, which I was privileged to see when it was here in Chicago last week.

Ms. Lauper is a great, great friend of our community.

[DURHAM D]

59. Was Rosie there? n/t

[terrya]

60. Yep...Rosie was there.

She was hilarious...she was seriously ragging on Donald Trump. The audience loved it. :-)

[DURHAM D]

66. Aren't you a lucky guy.

I don't think the tour comes anywhere near me.

Do you visit Rosie's blog? She has some pics up from the tour.

[terrya]

69. I haven't been to her blog.

But I'll check out the pics.

And I'm glad I went to see "True Colors". A nice night of music and activism.

[troubleinwinter]

145. DAMN!

I was hoping you meant Gypsy Rose Lee.

[Susang]

128. You bitch!

You saw the True Colors tour and didn't invite me?!?

[Oeditpus Rex]

57. Don't forget Sandra Bernhard

Probably helps that she's bi. And fabulous.

Her MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/readyoutofilth

[ronnykmarshall]

88. Thank you!!

I love Miss Sandy.

[porphyrian]

58. How do you know the question is gay already? You just asked it.

Shouldn't you give it a chance to find its own sexuality rather than assigning one to it at birth?

Yeah, I know.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

100. Post of the day.

:rofl:

[William769]

62. Oh and of course, Rosanne Barr!

[DURHAM D]

71. So.why no list of gay male (singers) icons?

I'll start -


i'm thinking


i'm still thinking

sorry...

[terrya]

73. Well....

some might say Barry Manilow.

I wouldn't say that, but some might.

[Blue-Jay]

106. He played for Bette, so that counts.

[terrya]

109. Right you are.

And as we all surely know, Bette and Barry Manilow performed at the Continental Baths in New York in the 70's.

Of course, I sort of forgot that interesting tidbit.

[William769]

74. Queen?

The village people? Elton John?

ON EDIT: AC/DC?

[terrya]

75. Well, Erasure, certainly.

And Pet Shop Boys

[William769]

77. And in my dreams, The Bay City Rollers!

:evilgrin:

[yardwork]

80. Definitely Elton John.

[ToeBot]

76. Rob Halford?

Hell Bent for Leather!

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

82. You mean...

From Judith Priest? ;-)

[ronnykmarshall]

94. I was drug to a JP concert with my first boyfriend.

As soon as they came out on stage, I was all "bitch, please!".

I loved how all the straight guys were going ape shit over the lead singer. My gaydar was off the chart with that one.

[enigmatic]

96. I've talked to Rob a few times

When I was still living in Phoenix and he had his band, Fight. Really nice guy; hilaruoisly funny too, which I wasn't expecting..

[ronnykmarshall]

95. Miss Boy George

La George "Who's wants a hit of this joint" Michael.

[Scout1071]

103. Michael Stipes from R.E.M.

Clay Aiken!

[xchrom]

111. they're called Drag Queens.

[jefferson_dem]

120. Freddy Mercury?!

[mitchum]

124. Lou Reed before he was...uh...straight

[mitchum]

125. Isn't that pretty much how Rufus Wainwright gets over?

well, that and the nepotism

[MilesColtrane]

150. Michael Feinstein... Bobby Short

Perhaps not icons with a big I, but certainly in their genres.

[terrya]

92. One more: Barbara Cook.

[Tatiana]

104. I **heart** this post. n/t

[xchrom]

112. me too -- best thread EVAH!!!

[MonkeyFunk]

113. Mainly because

they love us. That goes a long way.

But beyond that, they're talented, strong, yet very vulnerable women who speak to a large percentage of gay men. They're strong, but they've been hurt. They're tough, but they're soft. And all of them work(ed) their asses off on stage to please their audience - they tried os hard to be liked.


All of that is true for a substantial portion of gay men.

[avrdream]

132. Not just gay men, mate.

Something inside me gets sooooo happy and proud when I go to a drag show and see these same singers "copied" by the queens. I really feel like the shows are OURS and, hence, my love for them.

[mitchtv]

117. I've always loved Marhta Ray ever since i saw her

on Greenwich avenue in full military fatigues complete with boots.(There was no USO event in the Village that night)

[hiaasenrocks]

122. What about TRANSAGERS?!?!

You know, people who are, say, 23, but know they are "really" 65...and want to collect Social Security? What kind of music do they like? (And why should they be discriminated against? :) )

[libnnc]

127. Maybe because they never shied away

from their gay/lesbian fans. Larger than life women with larger than life talent who love ALL their fans and who celebrate their diversity. Pretty cool IMHO.

[jmondine]

129. You're right

That question is soooo gay.

[OneBlueSky]

131. they may be icons to gay clubbers, but . . .

gay clubbers constitute only a small part of the overall gay population . . . despite the myths . . .

I'm gay, and I have no use for either Barbra or Liza . . . I like Judy Garland and appreciate her body of work but listen to her only very occasionally . . . I think Cyndi Lauper can range from brilliant to yuck . . . but when she's brilliant, she's REALLY brilliant . . . e.g. I saw her do a version of "Carey" at a Joni Mitchell tribute that just blew me away . . .

p.s. by gay clubbers I don't necessarily mean only gays who club-hop . . . I include in the term all gay men who are of that particulay sensibility, i.e. those who consider regular partying an a necessity of life . . .

[Ayesha]

133. What about the LESBIAN icons?

Whenever people talk about gay icons, it's always Barbra, Judy, and Cher...what about the women we women go crazy for? Ya know, like...

The Indigo Girls
Melissa Etheridge
Ani DiFranco
Dar Williams
Ellen
Rosie

...and many more which hopefully others will think of now that I got the topic going...

[myrna minx]

142. The wonderful K.D. Lang.

:hi: She has a voice that makes your toes curl. On edit...how on EARTH did I forget Sandra Bernhard?!

[LeftCoast]

153. You are SO right about K.D.!

Especially when she sings Miss Chatelaine. *swoon*

LOL

[here_is_to_hope]

144. Love the Indigo Girls...

...Icons? maybe, two of the best artists out there? Oh yeah!

[and-justice-for-all]

134. The support they have for our community...

..But I am a rather rare beast in the Gay Community, I am a METALHEAD and I find Rob Halford (Juda Priest) to be more 'Iconic' for me..

[hootinholler]

135. But wait! You forgot...

BETTE!
:evilgrin:
GDRFC

-Hoot

[donheld]

136. You forgot one of the biggest The Divine Miss M

There should be no question as to why she's a gay icon. She is the high priestess of camp after all.

[hootinholler]

138. :P

[mitchtv]

149. "La Vie en Rose" Edith Piaf story

opened last weekend

[knight_of_the_star]

154. Similar question

Since we're already on the path of divas, being a straight guy who loves metal, what's the general consensus on Heavy Metal with gays?

[wicket]

155. kick

:kick: