Question: the WH responded to Taguba article - has anyone in Congress?

[Solly Mack]

If so, links? info?

Thank you in advance.


The WH, of course, lied and denied.

[babylonsister]

1. Not that I've heard... nt

[Solly Mack]

2. And if anyone would know - it's you :)

I'll keep looking.

Thanks!!!

[babylonsister]

3. Ha! Or you!

:hi:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. these folks lie out of habit. They are so accomplished at it that

they know not any other approach.

[Solly Mack]

5. Too true

they breathe, they lie

[ChairmanAgnostic]

6. someone here once posted about the boy who called wolf

and compared it to the Bushistas. Can't find the thread but it hit the nail with an extremely well-aimed, heavy and heat-treated/well-tempered hammer.

[Solly Mack]

10. I recall that

hafta go looking for it

[leftchick]

7. um

I seriously doubt anyone in this congress will touch US torture with a ten foot pole. Except Kucinich perhaps. Has Habeas Corpus been restored? Who is calling for GITMO to be shut down? Who is demanding and end to Renditions and torture in congress? Any bills addressing this?

I do know they are dealing with a dire immigration issue. :puke:

[madrchsod]

8. anthrax killer?

there`s only what? 27 people who had access? well maybe 28...

yes got to keep those brown people in line..to many of them are organizing and joining unions

[Solly Mack]

9. It's rather a glaring absence not to respond

I've sent the Hersh article to members of Congress. If I get any responses, I'll post them.

[slipslidingaway]

11. K&R let's hear from the candidates. n/t

[Solly Mack]

12. I figured they would have (by now) even if others didn't

but I haven't found anything yet

[slipslidingaway]

13. And we should not let them avoid this topic now that it is in the

news again.

[leftchick]

15. I found this on Edwards

Edwards wants to replace the war on terror with a new strategy that “includes strong and creative diplomacy, and also new efforts to lead the fight against global poverty. I’ve proposed a plan to lead an international effort to educate every child in the world. As president, I would increase foreign assistance by $5 billion a year to make millions of people safer, healthier, and more democratic, and by creating a cabinet-level post to lead this effort.” Edwards would also beef up intelligence collection, close GITMO, restore habeas corpus, and ban torture. Edwards wants to rebuild the military, do away with preemptive war, and go back to letting the military commanders make the decision, not civilians in Washington, D.C.

http://www.bloggernews.net/17048

but I am always suspect of campaign promises.

[Solly Mack]

17. Has he said anything about the recent article?

Thanks for the other link!!!!

[slipslidingaway]

14. 'Never Before!' Our Amnesiac Torture Debate

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1209-22.htm

December 9, 2005

"Other cultures deal with a legacy of torture by declaring "Never again!" Why do so many Americans insist on dealing with the current torture crisis by crying "Never Before"? I suspect it has to do with a sincere desire to convey the seriousness of this Administration's crimes. And the Bush Administration's open embrace of torture is indeed unprecedented--but let's be clear about what is unprecedented about it: not the torture but the openness. Past administrations tactfully kept their "black ops" secret; the crimes were sanctioned but they were practiced in the shadows, officially denied and condemned. The Bush Administration has broken this deal: Post-9/11, it demanded the right to torture without shame, legitimized by new definitions and new laws.

[Solly Mack]

16. Thanks for posting that

I despair

[slipslidingaway]

20. Me too :(( n/t

[mmonk]

18. I hear...

crickets

[Solly Mack]

19. Jyea

[Solly Mack]

21. Today?

Anything?