SiCKO.

[and-justice-for-all]

Yeah I am watching the flick(do not ask how I will not tell ya) and its pissing me off!!!!!!!

Fist, the whole line of crap about Canadians being upset with their healthcare system is a bunch of bullshit and a flat out lie. Yeah, no matter how good something, is someone is going to bitch. but regardless of the few who do, Canadians would not have it any other way.

This really burns me! In the UK, no matter how much of a percription you need (even HIV drugs) its 6.50 (pounds)!!! like 10 US dollars!!! if you can not afford that, its bloody free!! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!!

I am so pissed right now!!! Fuck me I am pisst!!!

[BlooInBloo]

1. Nah - you're not pissed. Wait til they go to Cuba.

[and-justice-for-all]

12. Cuba? CUBA??? fuck me!!

I think I will be looking into moving to the UK..

[BlooInBloo]

18. Sorry. :(

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. Have you seen Amy Goodman's interview with Michael Moore on Democracy Now?

It was fantastic. She spent 50 minutes interviewing him. It can be viewed at DemocracyNow.org

One of the reasons why I mention it to you, Moore discusses how years ago, when he had his show TV Nation on NBC, he had a "race" between Emergency Rooms in the US, Canada and Cuba. Cuba won. Before the show was to air, the censor for NBC told Mike, Cuba can't win. Mike tells the Censor, of course Cuba could win, they won! NBC having control made it look like Canada won.

[BlooInBloo]

19. I heard about that in another thread! lol! craptacular.

[rainbow4321]

2. Gets worse

$120+ inhaler in the US....5 cents (after converted from Cuban $$ to ours) in Cuba. Yes, I really meant to type "cents".

[BeHereNow]

3. And the Congress does NOTHING.

Why?
Because they profit from the greatest hoax
ever perpetuated on people anywhere.

Think they don't KNOW?
Think again.
They are IN on it.
BOTH sides of the aisle.

BHN

[LeighAnn]

9. They'll know when they see it on Saturday

Aren't they having a special screening in D. C. on Saturday night for the presidential candidates and members of Congress? Expect fear to be driven into the hearts of every last one of them as they realize that the jig is up.

[EmmitFitzhume]

21. It's actually tomorrow

I just checked on http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/news/article.php?id=9882">MichaelMoore.com,

An invitation-only audience will get an advance look at Michael Moore’s latest piece of cinematic agitprop at a June 20 screening of “SiCKO,” the documentary filmmaker’s critical look at the American healthcare system.

Lawmakers and other assorted bigwigs are expected to attend the screening at the AMC Loews Uptown Theater in the District, as they did for an exhibition of Moore’s last film, the anti-Iraq war documentary “Fahrenheit 9/11,” in 2004.

I'll be very curious to see which politicians and "bigwigs" attend. Also, only 10 more days until I can see it in the theater.

[LeighAnn]

22. Oh! Goody!!!

Won't have to wait so long to see how it goes over! I can't WAIT for the Sunday morning talk shows!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

20. Exactly BeHereNow!!! When it comes down to it, our Congress is filled with

opposames. Different sides of the aisles, voicing different views, and in the end, working together against the best interest of the American people, and in their own best interests.

[Journeyman]

4. I saw an interview with Moore, he was questioned about Canadian complaints. . .

he said, so what? What rule says we have to copy Canada's plan 100%. Let's take what's best from all the plans, and where there's legitimate concerns and problems, let's improve upon it. That'll make America great, to do what we've always done -- borrow the best and improve the rest. (Or words to this effect.)

[Elwood P Dowd]

6. In Sicko he said

"If another country makes a better car, we buy it. If another country makes a better wine, we drink it. Why can't we do the same with health care". Paraphrasing, but that's close enough.

[Journeyman]

7. Excellent. . .

I look forward to this flick. . . once again, Moore's here for us when the time is right.

[Kagemusha]

5. Hey, Canada's health care system is not perfect either here.

It's not perfect because, and I'll be very specific, the federal government of Canada unilaterally decided to balk on previously agreed health care expense sharing with the provinces and used the money to do things like pay down the national debt's interest more and then, in more recent years, balance the budget, leaving it to the provinces to do things like nurse pay raise freezes, recently overturned anti-union laws for public services (as in, the nurses), and lots of painful cuts. Waiting times are longer. But in spite of all that, health care is universally available - i.e. you aren't priced out, even if you have to wait for stuff - and that beats the hell out of dying, which management triage generally does a good job of preventing.

It's not perfect, and it's not as good as it once was in some respects, but no, Canadians do not exactly want to do it the American way. Not like they can afford it in the first place.

[JDPriestly]

8. I don't know about Canada,

but in other countries with single payer health care, you can still jump ahead of the line if you are willing to pay the doctor privately. Also, in other countries you can pay for extra private insurance.

Back in the old days of the Communists in at least one of the Eastern European countries, the patients tipped the doctors to ensure good service. Imagine.

Still, I lived in several countries in Europe with single payer programs, had two children and raised them through the first years of elementary school there. I loved the single payer programs. We all had great health care.

[Kagemusha]

10. When Canadians want to do that, they take a trip to the US.

I know there's been noises made in this direction but it's been strongly resisted.

[eridani]

11. Of COURSE Canadians complain!

It's their system. They own it. Therefore they constantly argue in public about how it should be run. This is a problem why, exactly?

[tomreedtoon]

13. I've seen it too. And I'll see it when it hits theatres.

I think it's important enough to take "extraordinary measures" to see it, but I'll still pay to see it in the theatre. Mr. Moore deserves our money as much as our attention.

Someone was complaining that "it's not a comedy." Well, duh! But even Moore admitted that he could have documented outrage after outrage, but he wanted to show a better way. He did. Several better ways, in fact.

By the way, even if there is a screening "for the Presidential candidates" they won't see it or be within miles of it. Their own guilt is too heavy. They're owned people. If they have anyone from their staffs see it, it'll be opposition research in ways to co-opt, neutralize or betray Moore's message.

And yes, Democrats, that means all the Democratic candidates, too.

[and-justice-for-all]

14. I will be taking people to see it...

..Even if I have to buy them a ticket.

[JTFrog]

16. What about France?

35 hour work week. Minimum 5 weeks paid vacation per year. 6 months off with pay to have a baby. Another 6 off unpaid if you want. They send someone to your house to watch your baby and do any light chores you may have for four hours twice a week so you can do something for yourself.

AND COLLEGE IS FREE!!!!

What appalls me is the lack of humanity in the so-called American Dream. America supposedly cares so much about other countries citizens. They could just give a shit about their own.

In any of those countries shown in the movie, if you tried to take away their healthcare or social services there would be a huge revolution. And these countries accomplish this with a fraction of our resources.

We have most hypocritical government EVER. It doesn't effect those who make the laws because they have enough money to make sure that they and their loved ones are covered. Yeah, there is exemplary health care available in the U.S. But, in most cases, only for the privileged.

Something has to give here.

[and-justice-for-all]

23. How about a Civil Revolution?

[dysfunctional press]

17. and NOTHING is going to change...

people will get angry, they'll howl, and some will even gnash their teeth...tv news programs will do investigative reports...congress might even form a committee or two to study the issue...heck, there might even be a march and a rally or two...then...NOTHING. it will all go away to make room for the next shiny issue to divert people's attention.

mark my words.

it's the way it's ALWAYS gone in this country.

[frankenforpres]

24. The Americans in France

One of the Americans in France said she felt guilty living there and having better healthcare than her parents who spent all of their lives working so hard. This really struck a chord with me, because i have chosen to go into academia. I will have good health care, get paid well (im in the business school, not even all academics are paid great) , and get approximately 4 month off. I realize everyone doesnt get this and i feel somewhat guilty about it. In france, it seems like everyone gets these nice perks, where you can take the time to enjoy your life.