How To Not Hire An American - for real

[donsu]

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/18/22435/0365


Our goal is clearly NOT TO FIND a qualified and interested U.S. worker.

It's on video, believe it or not, and even presented as a selling point to peddle their services by Cohen & Grigsby Law Firm. That's right, this group of attorneys put an entire seminar on how to screw over the American worker on YouTube. Imagine that, a seminar from lawyers on how to make sure one doesn't have to hire an American worker!

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[acmavm]

1. Old Will Shakespeare was ahead of his time.

[IndyOp]

33. Let's not kill all the lawyers - trial lawyers are on the side of the people against

corporate abuse. That's why the radical right has been attacking trial lawyers and demanding "tort reform" for decades. The radical right says our nation is too litigious only because they want corporations free to screw and kill people without any consequences.

GoLeft TV - associated with Air America - has some good videos with Consumer Advocate videos

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

65. Bush V. Gore

Bush* V. Gore.

Two names and a letter and the bullshit is exposed.















*Plaintiff

[Hosnon]

56. Self delete. NT.

[BlooInBloo]

2. Yup - pretty craptacular.

[qdemn7]

18. Agree 100% n/t

[aquart]

3. Oh, I find it very believable.

We knew it was happening. Now the geniuses gave us the evidence. Love to see their client list.

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. How much you want to bet that they're not going through this much

trouble to get Mexicans green cards?

[Systematic Chaos]

4. May karma run down every person in that room

REAL

FUCKING

HARD

:grr:

[AzDar]

5. Disgusting...and after the last 6 years, totally expected.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

6. I posted this in the video forum...

Resume submission to http://www.cohenlaw.com / This is the company that had the seminar.

Kimberly A. Connell
Human Resources and Office Manager
412.297.4920
[e-mail]
vCard


RE: The following link contains some very revealing information on how you conduct business http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

As I am an American, it would appear that I have no chance of qualifying for a position within your company, or those with which you consult. Your strategy depicted in this video of your marketing seminar is truly disgusting. Thank you for contributing to the demise of this country. May you rot in hell.

XXXX X.

[OneBlueSky]

7. American corporations have NO fidelity whatsoever to the United States as a nation . . .

their ONLY concern is maximizing profits, and since personnel is a major expense, reducing those costs is an easy way to make more money for the stockholders and the CEO . . . if this nation is to survive, something must be done to change the way business is being done . . .

corporate law needs to be totally revamped so that the corporate bottom line is no longer JUST the bottom line, but the corporation's overall contribution to the nation and the society . . . everything from job creation to environmental protection must be part of their corprate mandate -- not just making as much money as they possibly can, damn the consequences . . .

[hootinholler]

16. Exactly, which is why we need to tax them for offshoring.

If you are a corporation then your federal taxes, no matter where your HQ may be, should be based on jobs in the US and other good citizen credits. No jobs here = tariffs. Big polluter = tariffs without regard to national boundaries.

-Hoot

[spinbaby]

8. Holy cow!

Kicked, recommended, and forwarded.

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. Ha! So the big secret is out on the lawyers.

They're our salvation, they're our downfall, they're our salvation, they're out downfall, they're our salvation, they're our downfall, etc. in infinitum.

[Jim Warren]

11. I saw that a while back

The whole series in on youtube.

As well, the AILF American Immigration Law Foundation, gets bandied about as an expert source and linked in more than a few discussions about immigration as if they were an independent academic foundation.
http://www.ailf.org/

Who is the AILF? Lawyers.
These guys: AILA American Immigration Lawyers Association
http://www.aila.org/

[blondeatlast]

12. Poor law firm--they had to (presumably) hire US workers, ya think? nt

[Elwood P Dowd]

13. The Dept Of Labor has been doing this since 2002.

They have seminars teaching big corps about outsourcing, avoiding labor laws, and moving factories.

[WinkyDink]

14. Every day, every damn day, something new comes to my attention about Bushco's evil.

And yet there are still Republicans, still a race in 2008 that Republicans are given a chance to win.

Unbelievable.

[The Cleaner]

21. Oh sure,

That's because them tough no-nonsense ultra-moral Repubbies are the only ones who can protect us, dontcha know?
:sarcasm:

[HughBeaumont]

45. As this video shows . . .

. . . people still aren't opposed to shooting their own if there's money involved.

[The Cleaner]

20. The Dpt. of Labor?

That's pretty damn treasonous.
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Elwood P Dowd]

23. And the Dept of Commerce

I posted this a couple of years ago. Click on the American Progress link, and read the articles listed below.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/02/b32409.html

Encouraging Job Flight & Benefit Reductions

February 12, 2004

Download: DOC, RTF, PDF

With millions out of work and U.S. wages stagnating, the Bush Administration has pushed economic policies that are making the situation worse. From touting offshore outsourcing, to encouraging companies to moving jobs to China, the White House has systematically put the interests of working families behind the interests of its largest corporate benefactors.

WHITE HOUSE REPORT CELEBRATES LOSS OF U.S. JOBS TO OUTSOURCING: Under the headline "Bush Supports Shift of U.S. Jobs Overseas" the LA Times reported that the Bush Administration "embraced foreign outsourcing, an accelerating trend that has contributed to U.S. job losses in recent years." The Administration made the announcement even as analysts predict "as many as 2 million U.S. white-collar jobs" will be exported at a time when millions are already out of work. When asked whether the White House's top economic advisor who touted outsourcing should resign, the Administration said the mere suggestion was "laughable."

ADMINISTRATION SPONSORS CONFERENCES TO HELP COMPANIES MOVE JOBS TO CHINA: The Bush Commerce Department actively "sponsors" and "participates in conferences and workshops that encourage American companies to put operations and jobs in China." For one event at the luxurious Waldorf Astoria in New York, the "Commerce Department was described by the Chinese as a co-sponsor."

ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTS NEW TAX BREAKS FOR COMPANIES MOVING OFFSHORE: After the WTO prohibited a U.S. provision "shielding companies' overseas sales from taxes," the Administration's allies wrote a bill to "make up for the lost tax break by creating others." One of the new tax breaks would have "allowed $70 million in tax breaks for off-shore construction contracts" – a specific incentive to move jobs offshore.

ADMINISTRATION ALLOWS COMPANIES TO MOVE OFFSHORE TO AVOID TAXES: While "President Bush says the Bermuda loophole" that allows companies to move their offices offshore to avoid U.S. taxes "should be closed, he has yet to support any of the bills that would do so." Meanwhile, when Congress passed a bill barring federal contracts from going to such companies, the White House did not support it and the bill died. Because of the loopholes, in 1998, "$155 billion in corporate income literally disappeared." The top Fortune 500 corporations (which include Halliburton) who benefit from the loophole have given Bush and his allies more than $5.2 million since 2000.

WHITE HOUSE PROPOSES TO WEAKEN PENSION PROTECTION FOR WORKERS: Despite a federal court ruling that controversial "cash balance" pension plans which reduce benefits were illegal, the Bush administration unveiled a proposal to "make it easier for companies that operate traditional pension plans to convert them to 'cash balance' plans." In 2003, the Administration similarly "proposed regulations that would help companies avoid the age-discrimination lawsuits" they face when they have forced workers into "cash balance" plans.

ADMINISTRATION ALLOWS COMPANIES TO CUT OFF EIGHT MILLION WORKERS FROM OVERTIME: The Bush Administration passed new rules that allow companies to shed 8 million workers from overtime protections. When Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) attempted to block the rule changes, he was steamrolled by the White House. When asked why the Administration would cut off so many workers, Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao said employers are spending $2 billion a year on "needless litigation" by workers trying to receive the pay they were promised.

WHITE HOUSE GIVES TUTORIALS ON HOW COMPANIES CAN AVOID PAYING WORKERS OVERTIME: In the face of stagnating wages, the Bush Labor Department began "suggesting ways employers can avoid paying overtime to some of the 1.3 million low-income workers who would become eligible this year" for overtime pay. The Administration gave "options for employers include cutting workers' hourly wages and adding the overtime to equal the original salary and making a 'payroll adjustment' that results 'in virtually no, or only a minimal increase in labor costs.'"

WHITE HOUSE REPEALS WORKPLACE SAFETY PROTECTIONS: "President Bush signed his first bill carrying national impact yesterday, repealing workplace safety regulations." Speaking to female business leaders in the East Room, "Bush praised Congress for beginning 'a culture of accomplishment in Washington'" and claimed that "the safety and health of our nation's workforce is a priority for my administration."

ADMINISTRATION GIVES TAX BREAKS ENCOURAGING COMPANIES TO CUT WORKER HEALTH CARE: The Administration added "a little-noticed provision" to the new Medicare bill that allows companies to severely reduce - or almost completely terminate - their retirees' drug coverage "without losing out on a new subsidy." The major backers of the provision - Lucent Technologies, General Motors, Dow Chemical and SBC Communications – gave almost $140,000 in hard money and $2.5 million in soft money to Bush and his allies since 2000.

[The Cleaner]

35. Double grrrrr.

Thanks for posting. Even though my blood pressure is way up...

Unbelievabe that our OWN GOVERNMENT is against American workers.
:mad::mad::mad:

[hootinholler]

15. I don't think that the law firm posted that!

It was put up by http://programmersguild.org/">The Programmer's Guild. I'll be joining next payday.

It's very telling that this law firm assumedly is making money by charging HR professionals fees to attend this seminar.

When did I become a resource? I thought I was a human.

-Hoot

[old_techie]

78. The law firm did post the originals

all 20 of them and linked them to their company website. I saw them there but could not view them (system too slow) The programmers Guild must have downloaded the original postings by Cohen and Grigsby and picked the juiciest parts for their production. The videos were not stolen or covertly recorded. These scumbag lawyers put them out there themselves for all the world to see like there was nothing wrong with it. Shows how warped the corporate mindset really is.

[treestar]

17. Oh, Baloney

That would be unethical too.

That's some whiner's interpretation of it. He can't get a job, so he blames the foreigners who get hired for jobs where the employer had to go through the whole process with the Labor Department; that proves the employer has no choice but to hire a foreigner who happens to be qualified. Americans who aren't qualified to have a job don't get the job just because they are American.

[The Cleaner]

19. Yeah - TRY LOOKING FOR A TECH JOB.

I have seen these fake ads and now this explains why suddenly I have seen a rash of the same damn ads week after week in the Dallas Morning News. I thought they were bogus when I first saw them.

Dallas has been hit pretty hard in terms of outsourcing - telecom/tech in particular. What this guy says is true and explains why it is so hard to find a tech job anywhere right now.

Respectfully - Get your head out of the sand!

[treestar]

25. How can it be hard to find a tech job?

And it it's hard in Dallas, move!

You can't have a job you're not qualifed for, even if you are American!

The law already provides they have to pay the prevailing wage. So if you insist on a higher wage, it won't be supported. That's capitalism.

Why are you entitled to more money for the same work, just because of the geographical location of your birth?

[mhatrw]

30. And if you are replaced by someone who pays 10% of what you pay for rent,

should you too move to India where rent is cheaper so you can live on such wages?

[lumberjack_jeff]

34. There is an entire industry formed for the purpose of bringing in foreign labor to depress wages.

You should watch the video again.

[treestar]

62. They'll depress wages, period.

Reality.

You cannot insulate yourself from the competition.

Period. No law of capitalism demands higher pay for people based on the location of their birth. You are competitng with everyone in the world, period.

Can't stand up to the competition? Don't expect that legislation will correct it. We cannot legislate that the labor of Americans is worth more due to the accident of their birth on a certain place and continent.

[The Cleaner]

36. You shouldn't be talking about things you have no understanding of.

I am a first-person account of how difficult the tech job market is. You really are judging before understanding it all. It is easy for somebody to give over-simplified answers such as "move" to get a job but do you understand and appreciate how difficult that is if you have a house and a family? Then to try to sell your house in this difficult real estate market?

And who's asking for higher wages? Many unempoloyed tech workers who now work at Starbucks and Office Depot just want a job, period. And do you know anything about the H1B Visa program (insourcing)? Probably not. Do you know anything about how American wages are suppressed by our government and private industry forcing Americans out in favor of foreign workers? Probably not.

My momma always said, "Dont talk about things you can't understand."

[treestar]

63. So you just want the world to operate per your requiremnents

It won't. You have to compete with everyone else, period.

[mhatrw]

71. That's right!

It's just the way of the world -- you know, survival of the Social Darwinest.

[Solon]

44. You do realize how much it costs to move, right?

Its rare, but I've never seen such callousness on this board outside of freeper trolls, you sir, are an ass!

[HughBeaumont]

46. Surprised?

I have SEVERAL on ignore who unbelieveably, ON A DEMOCRATIC BOARD, support this Republican business practice without apology. It's amazing.

[Elwood P Dowd]

48. There are also many on DU

who refuse to believe that illegal immigration and importing workers via H1B visas is driving down wages. They call you a racist when you try and explain the supply/demand reality of the labor pool. Real wages are falling for median income workers and the working poor, and two of the main reasons are immigration and outsourcing.

[HughBeaumont]

53. I know someone who had to go out of business . . .

because he couldn't compete with the L1-staffed consulting companies and their prices.

Yep, and one of the Red-X victims played the "xenophobia" card from the bottom of the deck and called me a "Buchananite". That's just desperation there.

[Solon]

49. I know, had one guy, he still posts, try to justify using child slave labor...

in various countries, of course, this was well before the Chinese slave horror stories broke. But I doubt these "free traders" care, they just like the "cheap" prices and see dollar signs. Its sickening, almost sociopathic, in a way.

[HughBeaumont]

52. Who would defend a country with worse-than-Gilded-Age labor conditions?

Workers there are underaged, live in squalor, have no benefits whatsoever and get physically abused. But hey, whatever makes the bucks for GM, I guess.

I think it was Krugman who said we're living in what's called a "Tchotchke" economy; that is, when the "toys" (DVD players, PCs, iPods, etc) are more affordable but the "necessities" (housing, health care, transportation, education, etc) are getting further and further out of reach in price.

This is how Dem defenders of predatory economic practices get sucked in, because they aren't paying attention to what matters. It's also why Repukes keep bringing up the tired "W'all, you see alla these welf'ahr cases with DvuhD players'n microwaves'n teevees, so they must not be THAT poor, yew stewpid lib!" canard.

[Jim Warren]

72. Republican business practice without apology

Bing, bing, bing, and we have a winner!

Watch closely and you see how that agenda is embedded in these discussions.

[SoCalDem]

50. Yikes.. the last time we moved "big" it cost my husband's company

$12,500.. we moved from New Mexico to Southern CA..It was 1980.. I would hate to think what it would cost now :scared:

[treestar]

64. Too bad! If the Mexicans move, you whine!

they are willing to move, so why can't they have the job they are willing to move to?

My Irish ancestors HAD to move. I understand completely. It was move or starve. They chose moving.

[Elwood P Dowd]

68. Maybe you should move to another board.

We will all be better off and not have to listen to your republican/corporate propaganda.

[Jim Warren]

73. Let's review

A thread exposing a sleaze bag law firm nefariously undercutting American workers with dubious business practices elicits:

Darwin works to an extent
Try thinking through how capitalism works
If they'll work for less, they'll get the job

Are you being just a tad too harsh?

No.

Mmmmn, is that agenda in the oven?

[TahitiNut]

86. I see you've noticed, too.

What can I say? :shrug: I guess being "willing to move" is akin to "America, Inc.! Love it or leave it!"
Using mexicans as the model for "love it or leave it" seems just a bit topsy-turvy - since a banana republic run into the ground with plantation economics isn't what I have in mind for "America."

:puke: Sophomoric "book learning" -- the World According to Disney.

[Lost4words]

83. Just how old are you? I recognize the pattern of rhetoric here.

You still think life is fair dont you?

[BlooInBloo]

58. I've had little trouble.

[Robson]

77. OK....So then its more about me and my welfare than others

So it's all about Me Me Me? If *I* have a job then fuck the others that don't, or fuck those that aren't willing to move because corporate America wants to push us all down to the lowest common denominator. It's sad to hear this from so-called Democrats, but I see more and more of it.

But then that explains the big change in the Democratic Party. It used to have concern for American workers and the middle class. Now the DLC Party worries more about profits of corporate America and defending their right to scam the system, and hire those that aren't even US citizens so as to increase said profits, and screw US workers.

[BlooInBloo]

79. lol! I interview "good Americans", and they're invariably idiots....

... So we're forced to hire (most commonly) Chinese and Indian folks. They get paid the same as the rest of us, so there's no salary-lowering.

I work in mathematical programming - a grad degree in math/physics/CS is pretty much required.

[Lost4words]

85. So you have been interviewing your friends then?

Which are you BTW?

I' ask you kindly not to refer to any of my countrymen as IDIOTS! even the dispicable pukes are

several levels above you and your FOLKS!

[BlooInBloo]

89. LOLOL!!! I'm as American as apple pie, tiger. And I'll call anyone I damn well please an idiot.

[Lost4words]

92. Then use a mirror just to get it correct, Joe Joe!

Not the apple pie that's referred to, I am quite sure. Weiner in place of a hot dog maybe.

At the very least you have a wonderful opinion of your self and think little of others.
With that attitude "Tiger",you cant have much fulfillment.

Peace to you Brother

[BlooInBloo]

95. With an attitude like yours, it's really easy to understand how you might have trouble getting hired

[Lost4words]

97. Excuse me, I dont call people looking for work IDIOTS you did!

You have the attitude my friend and with nearly 10K posts in one year tells me you have very little personal life other than keyboards. Go suck your little corporate tit, the more your seniority grows so will your liability. They love the young ones that work their asses off for the Corporation
and they will spit you out the second you slow down.

I have spent enough time with the likes of you to last an eternity. There is nothing you have to say that I am interested in. So off you go into Ignore but I still did not refer to you as an Idiot, But you need to do some self examination.

[BlooInBloo]

99. buh-bye o bitter one.

[Lost4words]

84. Dont get angry, some here have very little experience in life.

they will get their lessons soon enough. Courtesy of the DLC united with the GOP forever!

[Morereason]

26. Darwinian Narcicistic Propaganda

And you have bought into the mindset.

Amazing. How in the world did US programmers ever create the IT industry in the first place, I mean all those unqualified folks who want a free job, they somehow lazed their way and created the industry. Now they think they have the brains to keep it running? Naw, only foreigners can do that.

How in the world can you believe such claptrap propaganda? You are being manipulated by the darwinian Big Business mindset.

[treestar]

27. Darwin works to an extent

If you let that foreginer in, he/she will generate other jobs.

If you don't them in, they won't - they'll generate the jobs elsewhere. That's why we have outsourcing. We never had that issue when we were totally open to immmigrants - taking other counties' cream of the crop.

But nowadays, it's like: you keep 'em, and you make your country the biggest and the bestest.

LOL.

[Elwood P Dowd]

29. We have outsourcing for one reason only.....

lining the pockets of CEOs and wealthy investors with easy money thanks to cheaper labor costs. You are living in la-la land.

[treestar]

57. so if you owned a company, what would you do?

Hire people who'd work for less, or on princple, hire people you have to pay more for?

[mhatrw]

31. OK, so now cheap foreign labor CREATES jobs for Americans!

Don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's trickle down.

[treestar]

59. If they'll work for less, they'll get the job

Are you saying if I charge you more (I'm American) you'll pay it, even if someone foreign would do the same job for less?

Try owning your own business.

You criticize these corporations, yet are dependent on them. The option of starting your own business never occurs to you.

[mhatrw]

69. I own my own business.

Unlike you, I'm not a robber baron nor a social Darwinist nor a cheap labor conservative.

I would rather go out of business than low ball my employees with non-living wages. How about you?

There is more to owning a business than maximizing your profits by minimizing your labor costs. Not that I expect you to understand this.

[HughBeaumont]

76. As if we have a choice.

I can't pay bills with something that has an initial 90% failure rate. I can't pay a mortgage with variable net income, many times of which will be on the low end of the spectrum.

[The Cleaner]

37. Please post the hard data that shows we now have a net GAIN of American jobs due to outsourcing.

Good luck! hardey har har
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

[Elwood P Dowd]

39. That will take some time

She will have to dig deep into the archives of The Weekly Standard and Fox News to find those. I think this poster is related to James Glassman or Tom Donohue.

[HughBeaumont]

43. Not happening.

Companies tend to shy away from/underplay their BPO stats and practices for obvious reasons.

[treestar]

61. Try thinking through how capitalism works

If a government controlled economy worked, the Soviet Union would have had the illegal immmigrant problem.

No, outsourcing is the result of not allowing people to be here. And their consumption is there, not here. Thus the jobs go there, not here.

The economy is dynamic, not static. If you don't want them here, they'll be over there, and so will the capitalist's funds.

[Elwood P Dowd]

67. No, that's how out of control crony capitalism works.

The Bush administration is helping these companies ship millions of jobs out of the country, import millions of low-wage workers into the country, and you support it. You're pushing lies and propaganda. What are you even freaking doing on this board?

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/02/b32409.html

Encouraging Job Flight & Benefit Reductions

February 12, 2004

Download: DOC, RTF, PDF

With millions out of work and U.S. wages stagnating, the Bush Administration has pushed economic policies that are making the situation worse. From touting offshore outsourcing, to encouraging companies to moving jobs to China, the White House has systematically put the interests of working families behind the interests of its largest corporate benefactors.

WHITE HOUSE REPORT CELEBRATES LOSS OF U.S. JOBS TO OUTSOURCING: Under the headline "Bush Supports Shift of U.S. Jobs Overseas" the LA Times reported that the Bush Administration "embraced foreign outsourcing, an accelerating trend that has contributed to U.S. job losses in recent years." The Administration made the announcement even as analysts predict "as many as 2 million U.S. white-collar jobs" will be exported at a time when millions are already out of work. When asked whether the White House's top economic advisor who touted outsourcing should resign, the Administration said the mere suggestion was "laughable."

ADMINISTRATION SPONSORS CONFERENCES TO HELP COMPANIES MOVE JOBS TO CHINA: The Bush Commerce Department actively "sponsors" and "participates in conferences and workshops that encourage American companies to put operations and jobs in China." For one event at the luxurious Waldorf Astoria in New York, the "Commerce Department was described by the Chinese as a co-sponsor."

ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTS NEW TAX BREAKS FOR COMPANIES MOVING OFFSHORE: After the WTO prohibited a U.S. provision "shielding companies' overseas sales from taxes," the Administration's allies wrote a bill to "make up for the lost tax break by creating others." One of the new tax breaks would have "allowed $70 million in tax breaks for off-shore construction contracts" – a specific incentive to move jobs offshore.

ADMINISTRATION ALLOWS COMPANIES TO MOVE OFFSHORE TO AVOID TAXES: While "President Bush says the Bermuda loophole" that allows companies to move their offices offshore to avoid U.S. taxes "should be closed, he has yet to support any of the bills that would do so." Meanwhile, when Congress passed a bill barring federal contracts from going to such companies, the White House did not support it and the bill died. Because of the loopholes, in 1998, "$155 billion in corporate income literally disappeared." The top Fortune 500 corporations (which include Halliburton) who benefit from the loophole have given Bush and his allies more than $5.2 million since 2000.

WHITE HOUSE PROPOSES TO WEAKEN PENSION PROTECTION FOR WORKERS: Despite a federal court ruling that controversial "cash balance" pension plans which reduce benefits were illegal, the Bush administration unveiled a proposal to "make it easier for companies that operate traditional pension plans to convert them to 'cash balance' plans." In 2003, the Administration similarly "proposed regulations that would help companies avoid the age-discrimination lawsuits" they face when they have forced workers into "cash balance" plans.

ADMINISTRATION ALLOWS COMPANIES TO CUT OFF EIGHT MILLION WORKERS FROM OVERTIME: The Bush Administration passed new rules that allow companies to shed 8 million workers from overtime protections. When Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) attempted to block the rule changes, he was steamrolled by the White House. When asked why the Administration would cut off so many workers, Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao said employers are spending $2 billion a year on "needless litigation" by workers trying to receive the pay they were promised.

WHITE HOUSE GIVES TUTORIALS ON HOW COMPANIES CAN AVOID PAYING WORKERS OVERTIME: In the face of stagnating wages, the Bush Labor Department began "suggesting ways employers can avoid paying overtime to some of the 1.3 million low-income workers who would become eligible this year" for overtime pay. The Administration gave "options for employers include cutting workers' hourly wages and adding the overtime to equal the original salary and making a 'payroll adjustment' that results 'in virtually no, or only a minimal increase in labor costs.'"

WHITE HOUSE REPEALS WORKPLACE SAFETY PROTECTIONS: "President Bush signed his first bill carrying national impact yesterday, repealing workplace safety regulations." Speaking to female business leaders in the East Room, "Bush praised Congress for beginning 'a culture of accomplishment in Washington'" and claimed that "the safety and health of our nation's workforce is a priority for my administration."

ADMINISTRATION GIVES TAX BREAKS ENCOURAGING COMPANIES TO CUT WORKER HEALTH CARE: The Administration added "a little-noticed provision" to the new Medicare bill that allows companies to severely reduce - or almost completely terminate - their retirees' drug coverage "without losing out on a new subsidy." The major backers of the provision - Lucent Technologies, General Motors, Dow Chemical and SBC Communications – gave almost $140,000 in hard money and $2.5 million in soft money to Bush and his allies since 2000.

[mhatrw]

70. All Hail Cheap Labor!

An honest day's pay for an honest day's work is far too much to ask for if somebody else will do it for less. Right?

Would you really turn the clock back 150 years to sweat shops and seven day work weeks and child labor and starvation wages just because someone somewhere was willing to be exploited so horribly? Do you actually believe in the social Darwinism of the robber barons? Would you outlaw all unions if you could in order to exploit labor even further than it is already exploited by the very nature of unregulated hyper-capitalism?

[brentspeak]

75. Try responding to the OP's request

I, for one, am still waiting.

[Lost4words]

88. What are you 9th grade?

and I am sure you are male with your boastful knowledge of the workings of the world, Son you dont know what you dont know yet! So you come off as a silly flat worlder.

But stick around here and in time you too will learn.

[Lost4words]

91. you cant possibly be female, no female is this cold!

except for Ann the Man, Babs Bush and Lynn & Mary Cheney and Karen Hughes!

which one are you!

[Elwood P Dowd]

93. She can't possibly be a progressive Democrat either.

It's obvious she should be hanging around the Freeper board.

[Lost4words]

94. Thank you Mr Dowd, thats very kind. Hows Harvey?

I hope the two of you have a wonderfull evening!

[Elwood P Dowd]

96. The beer is cold

and my Apple computer is playing Mike Malloy.


:beer:

[Lost4words]

98. Gotta be better than this thread!

:toast:

[old_techie]

80. the outsourcing visa

Sure, let them in to steal whatever knowledge is usefull to them to generate jobs back home - facilitate outsourcing that is. Indian outsourcing firms have labeled the H-1B the "outsourcing visa".

[Lost4words]

87. So young, So silly, study history you might get a clue!

[LoZoccolo]

60. If corporations wanna go gangsta with American workers, I hope they realize what gangsta means.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlyp8HOEoPE

[Lost4words]

82. And the qualified dont either if you are a US citizen.

I'm educated and I am living the nightmare, may the same come to you very soon. You are very gullible aren't you little one.

[Blue_Tires]

22. k+r

[highnooner]

24. Wow!

All I can say is wow! I have sent this link to my friends.

[upi402]

28. k/r n/t

[Nikki Stone1]

32. kick

:kick:

[Kingshakabobo]

38. This is borderline illegal if not totally illegal.....

Why can't someone go after these lawyers' licenses? My point is, everyone knows attorneys like this specialize in telling corporations how to 'circumvent' the law but this borders on suborning perjury - AND it's on tape.

I assume, when the employers submit for green-cards, they have to sign affidavits stating they made a good faith effort to hire an American. If coaching your client to set up 'sham interviews' isn't suborning perjury to those affidavits, I don't know what is. The programmer's guild needs to put this in front of the states bar in the applicable jurisdictions.

Silly attorneys, they forgot the cardinal rule - "say anything and put nothing in writing" - in this case, say nothing on tape.

[The Cleaner]

40. But according to some,

including "treestar," the government does no wrong and breaks (or skirts) no laws - everything is handled by the "letter of the law."

And we all know how true that is...

:wtf:

[Kingshakabobo]

51. She's a fucking clown. n/t

[Sapere aude]

41. Everyday I am finding more reasons to be glad I am nearing retirement age.

I feel bad for people younger than me. No longer does work hard, get and education and you will make a good living mean anything.

[HughBeaumont]

47. Even less so now.

A college degree is almost like a height requirement today. I'm wondering when the day is coming that a MASTERS degree isn't going to be enough to get an interview. Even for middle management positions, it's almost becoming a mandatory requirement.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

101. Guess what.

I have three degrees, an associates in court reporting, a bachelor's in biology and a doctorate (Juris Doctor).
In over a year of looking I got ONE interview for a legal assistant position. They weren't nice enough to call me back.

My SO also has three degrees, an associate's in video production, a BS and MS in physics/math, and he can't find a job either.

I have a doctorate, he has a master's, and neither of us can get an interview for anything, let alone a decent non shitty job.

We are gonna retire early and sell my house to do it.

The corporate world is HELL.

[HughBeaumont]

42. Unconscionable.

And they videotaped it. That takes balls. Well, really, it doesn't if you're already rich and couldn't give a crap.

In fact, why don't they just close their little presentation with that? "We don't give. a. SHIT. about American workers. We got ours. Let God sort 'em out. Their fault for not preparing."

And for those who defend this Republican shittiness (and that's what it is. Predatory and REPUBLICAN, not progressive. Rising tides only lift all yachts), please read some entries in my journal and it's archives for more information as to why this detrimental practice hurts workers and long-term economies here. You'll also find it DOESN'T do much but exploit the third world and elevate the salaries of the wealthy. At least not to the extent that messers Cavuto, Glassman and Friedman may tell you.

[dkofos]

54. I guess I will have to change my name to Ravi Patel to get a job.

[LoZoccolo]

66. Get a fake H1-B lol!

The worst they could do is take it away, right? They can't deport you for having a fake visa if you are a citizen! :rofl:

[ebayfool]

55. .

[MetaTrope]

74. Remember that our Secretary of Labor was in bed with China's intelligence services

I suppose it's just a little quid pro quo

[Lost4words]

81. I saw it! And there is no class war in this country!

why does it make me want to Arm Up?

[treestar]

90. So what, there are also lawyers trying to find the American employee

There are lawyer who defend those accused of DUI. There are lawyers who prosecute those accused of DUI.

There is a lawyer to defend anyone accused of anything. There are lawyers willing to prosecute anything.

Lawyers are not GOD. They don't decide who is guilty or innocent. They advise the parties on the LAW.

There is a lawyer on both sides of any question possible.

But for those who think their personal opinions are the law, those who they disagree with have no right to legal advice, counsel, or advocacy.

Not so. The world is not a dictatorship of your personal opinion. Lawyers are allowed to advance the case of those you disagree with.

[Lost4words]

100. Little BlooInBloo thinks I am bitter! Think again my childish one.

maybe someday you will get a girlfriend but not till you stop calling people Idiots.

But then again stick to what you are good at, praising yourself while knocking others. A George Bush sigh of character.

Others here already know you and now I do to. I share their opinion.

remember and keep telling yourself I am as good as everybody else, people dont like me cause I am so smart and I am so good they are just jealous of my wonderfulnesses.

:rofl: