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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:39 PM
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If Bloomberg runs for Presdient
Isnt that great for the Democrats, because he would split the right vote?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:40 PM
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1. He could run as a Dem; don't forget that possibility. nt
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monkeyhq Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:40 PM
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2. If Hagel runs with him, it is good for the dems.
IMO.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:44 PM
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5. I agree.
I don't think Hagel is a good/strong choice.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:06 PM
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10. Why? Because Hagel's about as progressive as, oh, say...Pat Buchanan?
Or Rick Santorum? Or Mitch McConnell?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:07 PM
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11. Yes
And I don't think he's genuine.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:29 PM
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19. I think he's genuine, just too conservative--Bloomberg might want
to consider a more moderate running mate.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:15 AM
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22. Hi monkeyhq!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:41 PM
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3. More than that
he could siphon off money that otherwise might have gone to Republicans.

I'm glad he did this, because now he can't latch onto Unity08 and run on their money and organization. I was concerned that that might happen. He'll have to start from scratch.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:43 PM
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4. He's more of a Democrat than a Republican
I think he hurts Guiliani. He probably hurts the Dem otherwise.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:47 PM
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6. He would be the Nader of 2008. The Democrats would lose.
The GOP base Hates him. Fickle Dems would lean to him and extend GOP rule for EIGHT MORE YEARS.

Believe it.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:05 PM
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9. Actually, the way things are going an independent bid could win
People underestimate how sick and tired both sides the electorate are with business as usual- and that's not considering what's likely to happen to the economy and the war over the next 16 months.

If we're left with the current slate of candidates- plus a viable 3rd party, anything could happen.

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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:19 PM
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16. Damn right.
That's the thing. This year is SO different. ANYTHING could happen.
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:11 PM
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12. Bloomberg would take votes away from the Dems
He's more liberal than the Republican base, who as onehandle points out, hate him. The question is if he is doing this in order to split the moderate vote so that a Republican can win the Presidency or is he doing this because he is on a ego trip? I vote ego trip. I don't think he cares about the Republican party.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:12 PM
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13. He would do terribly in the south...
and I just don't see Dems going for him, maybe some in the Northeast, but not enough to make a huge difference.
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monkeyhq Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:16 PM
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14. I disagree with you.
And so do the political pundits. The left and center wing of the democratic party is more loyal than the center of the republican party. What you will get is the effect that happened in 1992 when Perot entered the race. Clinton won because Perot took enough from the GOP to make it impossible for the GOP to get their 33.3%.

Now if it were Gore who were running as an independent, that would hurt the dem candidates and help the GOP.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:57 PM
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7. IMO, he has a 50/50 chance wining with the right VP. Melinda Gates would
put them over the top.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:01 PM
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8. I think he would be more like Nader.
And that's not good news.
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monkeyhq Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:19 PM
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15. No, it is good news.
Because he takes votes away from the GOP, not us. He would be the Nadar of the GOP.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:23 PM
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17. why would he take votes from the GOP? He's only been a republican for about 18 minutes
he's a life long dem who switched to GOP so he could run for office.

But I think dems are pretty loyal. I don't see his positions being far from the Dem positions and hopefully the dems would stick with "our own."
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:39 PM
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20. I see it the opposite way: I see Repukes as disturbingly, goose-steppingly
loyal. I see Democrats as free-thinkers who will jump ship for the craziest reasons (many DID vote for GWB, you know!).
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:26 PM
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18. I don't see it that way (nt)
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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:49 PM
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21. Not necessarily
Lets put it this way - I'm a New Yorker and a Dennis K. kind of Democrat.
If Bloomberg runs and HRC is the Dem nominee, my vote goes to Bloomberg -- no hesitation
Not good for Democrats at all.

Bloomberg is smart, principled, friendly to the environment, gays, the poor, a bold thinker (conditional cash transfers, trans fat, smoking ban, congestion pricing, etc) and, most importantly, has so much money he doesn't have to give a shit what big business thinks.

Hell, Bloomberg might get my vote if Obama is the nominee. Definitely if Dems put up Edwards. If Gore runs, though, sorry Bloomie!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:19 AM
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23. Even if he won, it would be great for Democrats...
assuming they pick up more seats in both houses of Congress, as they are projected to do. He would be an incredibly weak President, having no political base to work with, and holding virtually no veto power.

It would be the opposite of what's happening now, where the Executive Branch is holding the lion's share of the power.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:24 AM
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24. A Non-Starter...Who The Hell Is Bloomberg???
Sorry...I don't see this guy getting much traction at all...even with all his money.

The "third party" hole is not there for a moderate but for a right winger...a "true believer"...a Gingrich or some other flying monkey who wears his religion on his nose, wants to bomb any and all brown-skinned people and force gays, women, blacks and other minorities into servitude. That doesn't sound like Bloomberg.

He sure isn't bringing anything to the Democrats that isn't already there...other than his money. He's got very little name recognition outside New York and the fact he's switched parties makes him a traitor in my book...I don't care if that was the way he chose to get elected...he cut a deal with the worst regime this country has had to endure.
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