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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:27 PM
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Local Dem Party workers left speechless
I dropped by our county Democratic Party HQ today to check it out and ask a couple of questions. I thanked them for their work and told them it was appreciated. It was a pretty casual atmosphere and I asked them as a group when they thought this insanity will end. As one, they stared at me as if I had sprouted a second head. One worker said "It's falling apart now...it looks good for 2008." I said "But, but. but...in the meantime, every day, more people die. When is something going to be big enough to get these criminals out of the White House?!!" All I got was blank stares.

Campaigning is one thing...but shouldn't people involved in politics and presumably trying to attract people to their cause have an opinion at least on topics like this? I was flabbergasted, frankly.

What's your take?

JB
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:35 PM
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1. I can identify with the workers
A couple of days ago I was on a plane and happened to sit next to a soldier who had been in Iraq. When I told him I was really glad he had made it home, he told me that he wouldn't go back if he was ordered to do so. He was so angry at Bush and Bush's buddies. Of course, I told him I was against the war, but after that, I was speechless. I just felt so helpless.
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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:39 PM
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4. I bet he was angry!
That's interesting. I didn't get a feeling of helplessness, but perhaps that's what it was. Thanks for your opinion!


Hmmmm...
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:04 PM
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12. That's not the same kind of speechlessness (is that a word?)
Yours was a perfectly normal reaction -- sometimes there simply are no words.

But this is a case where I think the campaign workers should know the answers -- or at least be willing to engage in conversation about it.

When you are working on a campaign you need to know that you are the face and the voice of the party and the candidate.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:38 PM
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2. Your county Dem Party HQ has several full time staff during the day?
Even at this time of year so far in advance of most local, state, and fed elections?

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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:40 PM
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5. Yup
There were 6 people I saw working - and it was lunch time.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:58 PM
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15. They are probably volunteers.Our office is staffed year-round by
volunteers. We have one paid staff--the Director. And I live in a RED county.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:38 PM
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3. seems like they are trying to do something to get those criminals out
:shrug:
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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:42 PM
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6. Maybe...
But not until 2008.

*sigh*

I guess I'm just fed up and I expect everyone else to be too. :)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:42 PM
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7. I guess they're just not impeachment people
and if not, then what else is there to stop the insanity before 2008?
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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:44 PM
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9. I dunno
Public outrage? Demands of resignations? Good grief...something!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:12 PM
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13. Work horses
Practical folk. They just keep plugging away within the system.

When I go to the monthly Dem breakfast, the folks there are more like you say. Angry, but still with a touch of realism and practicality about what can and can't get done.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:43 PM
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8. Democrats, Stop Coddling The Children! STOP BEING SO DAMN FREAKING WEAK!!
Submitted by Linda Milazzo on Wed, 2007-06-20 00:01. Activism | Congress | General Discussion | Impeachment
Democrats in Congress, this message is for YOU! There's a reason Republicans call Democrats weak. IT'S BECAUSE YOU DAMN FREAKING ARE!!

When Democrats took the majorities of the Senate and the House in November of 2006, your promise to America, YOUR PRIORITY (although NOT why you were elected), was to make Washington a more civil place. You pledged to take the high road and not do to the Republicans what the Republicans did to you. Your goal was to show America just how freaking nice you were, and to change the tone in Washington from bellicose to genteel. What you failed to realize is that America doesn't need you to be nice. America needs you to be strong. You've succeeded at being nice. But not at being strong.

'Nice' to Republicans translates as weak, which is NOT the perception you need to cultivate. The fact is, when the Republicans were the majority, their absolute dominance over you made you appear weak and them appear strong. And since your governance hasn't altered that dynamic, you still appear weak and they still appear strong.

You have set the wrong priorities. It's not about being civil to Republicans. It's about salvaging the nation and the world that they have destroyed. You won't save the world by being nice to Republicans. They need to be overruled. They need to be constrained. From the uppermost realms of our government, right on down.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/23791
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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:47 PM
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10. That's what we need....
A good old-fashioned rabble-rouser! (Not that any of us here are rabble...maybe hordes, but never rabble!)

Good stuff.

Thank you!

:D
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:59 PM
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11. It does seem like they should have the talking points nailed
What if it had been an I-voted-for-bush-but-now-I-hate-him republican asking that question? She would have walked away thinking "yep, just like they say--the Dems have no plan."
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:22 PM
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14. Hil will get elected , pardon scooter and everything will be ok
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