"PBS - Endgame:" Right or wrong, the final endgame for Iraq will be: U.S. troops

[jerryme1]

pull back to the Iraqi borders in reduced numbers; Special ops will hunt al qaeda; and the various Iraqi tribes and sects will fight it out until one side emerges able to secure the country.

[Warren Stupidity]

1. If they abandon their big fat american bases

those special ops teams will not be doing any hunting any more than they are able to operate in the pakistan border region. Once we begin to bug out we will bug all the way out.

However there is no reason to believe that we are going to do anything other than sit in Iraq until there is no more oil in mesopotamia. This isn't rocket science. We are in the end game of the peak oil crisis and we intend to control the big pools of oil and shoot everyone else who tries to get near it. All the rest of this crap is just smoke and mirrors to confuse us all about what is going on. The game ends when we can't maneuver our tanks anymore because there isn't any gas left to drive them. We are Rommel's Afrika Corps, we just haven't figured that out yet.

[Dhalgren]

2. I am afraid that you are right. And I am also afraid that it won't make any difference who is

elected to the Presidency or which Party controls congress. This is the Imperial government we are talking about and Republican or Democrat, they are all imperialists...

[conspirator]

7. Oh it's real. It's not about left or right, that is just to keep the masses entertained. It's

about up and down. The elite at the top of the pyramid, they are not going to fight each other, they main objective is to keep exploiting the cattle: us.

[Ammonium]

3. Think of it this way

I would propose to you that we are in iraq for the oil yes, but not for the reasons you think. Noticed how oil prices have gone up starkly since we went into Iraq? Ousting Saddam and stealing the Iraqi oil is not about having oil for us, it's about seizing the oil and controlling production. Who do we get most of our oil from? The Saudi's...

So it's not about having all the oil for us, it's about turning off the oil faucet in Iraq. If you take away Saddam and his ability to flood the oil market and drive the price of oil down than you can over inflate the cause of oil. It's like a De beers monopoly in a way. We're in Iraq not to seize the oil, just control it so that the production of Iraqi oil stops(Iraqi oil isn't controlled by an American oil company yet), which drives prices and profits up for the oil giants.

[TransitJohn]

4. I see somebody

has been reading Greg Palast.

[Ammonium]

5. A great man

And excellent investigative journalist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B-ZdF_pfj4

[Warren Stupidity]

6. Yes of course keeping the Iraqi pool out is good bidness.

But we can only do that if we control it, right? That is a mere nuance in the plan. They keep the Iraqi oil off the market (which was the purpose of the 12 year embargo as well) and then as the saudi fields run out, the Iraqi fields replace them. I absolutely agree about that.