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Tue Jun-19-07 11:47 PM
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Daniel Pearl: did he die because he was a Jew or a journalist? |
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Edited on Tue Jun-19-07 11:49 PM by babylonsister
His wife and Angie Jolie are on Charlie Rose, but I wonder why he died.
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Tue Jun-19-07 11:51 PM
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1. Maybe he was investigating something they didn't want him too. |
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Or...maybe he was one of the first "warning shots" to the journalists covering the war. I guess I don't know enough about his story. I wonder how the movie will portray it.
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Tue Jun-19-07 11:56 PM
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3. They may not distinguish between Journalist or Spy. |
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Even the most innocuous piece of information may have intelligence value. A journalist is a security threat.
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Wed Jun-20-07 12:05 AM
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Wed Jun-20-07 12:24 AM
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7. If they knew he was Jewish he was then seen as a spy for Israel. |
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Wed Jun-20-07 12:30 AM
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10. Sadly, militants aren't the only ones who believe that to be true. |
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Wed Jun-20-07 12:38 AM
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11. Along with nearly every other country in the world. You know that |
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every country that has a stake here, spies on us. They'd be stupid if they didn't. That's just the way it is: there are no allies, only potential enemies.
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Wed Jun-20-07 12:55 AM
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12. But being a Jew doesn't qualify one for being a spy for Israel. |
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I agree that all countries more than likely have spies in place, even among "friends." However, to assume a Jew is a spy for Israel because he is a Jew, well that is something else all together.
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Wed Jun-20-07 11:26 AM
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17. Paranoia or just plain anti Semitism. |
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You know that all Atheist are Communists.
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Wed Jun-20-07 09:05 AM
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16. The answer lies in what he was investigating at the time! |
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Were 'Islamo-fascists' really behind his demise? Just maybe he was looking at Pakistani intelligence links to 911!!!
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Wed Jun-20-07 04:18 PM
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Wed Jun-20-07 05:39 PM
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31. Considering what we NOW know... |
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Wed Jun-20-07 07:16 PM
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Wed Jun-20-07 08:47 PM
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39. I didn't know what "ISI" was so I googled it. Holy shit. |
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Wed Jun-20-07 08:56 PM
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41. They laundered money to Atta, among other things. |
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Tue Jun-19-07 11:52 PM
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2. The msm never seemed to make up its mind on that question. |
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That movie trailer was compelling.
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Tue Jun-19-07 11:57 PM
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4. I always thought he was killed because he was American. |
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Although being a Jew probably didn't help.
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Wed Jun-20-07 07:51 PM
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36. They knew he was Jewish and had been tracking him. He worked for the Wall Street Journal. |
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He specifically wrote on Middle East issues because he believed that with information, knowledge and understanding that people could learn how to co-exist peacefully. He believed that much of our existing "news reporting" only exaggerated Middle East issues.
They knew who he was and he was a target for a multitude of reason, but being Jewish was probably the reason he was killed.
He was a wonderful person, I knew him as a boy and as a teen-ager. His parents are wonderful and they are so proud of him and what he accomplished in his short life.
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Wed Jun-20-07 11:07 PM
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42. I didn't realize that. |
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Unfortunately I only know a little about him - but I'm moved by what I know. You are very lucky to have known such a fantastic person and his family - and they should indeed be proud of him. I just bought A Mighty Heart today actually - and plan on seeing the film as soon as I finish reading it.
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Wed Jun-20-07 12:23 AM
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6. I doubt he would have been killed if he hadn't been Jewish... |
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...but being an American AND a reporter for the a*holes who claim to read The Wall Street Journal for the fair and balanced "news" coverage probably didn't help his situation.
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Wed Jun-20-07 12:25 AM
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8. he's just as dead either way. nt |
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Wed Jun-20-07 08:27 AM
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15. Hey! Thanks for that insight! nt |
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Wed Jun-20-07 03:21 PM
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18. Sorry I guess that did come out snotty, and I didn't mean it that way. |
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I just meant who knows the mind of a fundie extremist murderer and knowing why doesn't bring him back - and IMHO won't stop the next person murdered by these thugs. Again, I apologize for sounding so snotty.
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Wed Jun-20-07 03:24 PM
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19. There's a lot happening in Pakistan that we won't know for years. |
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Danny Pearl was a courageous man and we needed 100 like him, not to lose him. :(
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Wed Jun-20-07 12:27 AM
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9. Glad you brought him up. I was really bummed by his death. |
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I'd like to not forget him. Not sure why anyone does this sort of thing, really. I mean, I know about zealotry, but in reality - I have no friggin' idea why man's inhumanity to man continues to play out from a lizard-like place in our collective brains.
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Wed Jun-20-07 12:59 AM
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Wed Jun-20-07 01:08 AM
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14. Danny Pearl died because he was a good journalist who took risks. |
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It sent a message out to the whole community to back off.
He could have been a Christian or an atheist, imho, and his murderers would have still wanted the same message sent. :(
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Wed Jun-20-07 03:51 PM
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20. But I seem to recall his murderers taunting him for being a Jew. |
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It was chilling. Then Pearl started saying, "I am a Jew. My father was a Jew. My grandfather was a Jew..." just about the time the sword fell on his neck. What a brave man!
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Wed Jun-20-07 04:14 PM
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22. Of course. But, imho they would have taunted him anyway |
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with anything at their disposal.
He was a human being, Danny Pearl. What a terrible loss.
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Wed Jun-20-07 03:53 PM
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21. Wasn't he getting close |
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to Pakistani officials connected to the Khan network?
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Wed Jun-20-07 04:57 PM
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27. I'm pretty sure that was the underlying or primary reason. |
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Wed Jun-20-07 04:51 PM
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25. There was alot of stuff about him here on DU ...speculation and |
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some good articles about the "mystery" of his death. Probably there in DU Archives.
I do remember that once you got past the speculation there seemed to be more to the story than what was reported. Like everything in Bush years...we only find out "some truth" YEARS later.
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Wed Jun-20-07 04:55 PM
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26. I think being American sealed his fate, |
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Jew and journalist were just the icing on the cake.
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Wed Jun-20-07 05:01 PM
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by the synergism of hatred and ignorance.
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Wed Jun-20-07 05:04 PM
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29. Do you believe there is any possibility |
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that getting too close to the Khan network could have played a part in it?
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Wed Jun-20-07 06:11 PM
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in a position to give an informed opinion on that. I will say that, from everything that I have read or seen reported, this was not only a very good and decent man, but a highly intelligent and dedicated journalist. For that reason, I would assume that he had many enemies in that part of the world, including the possibility of what you mention here.
His death was an evil act.
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Wed Jun-20-07 07:47 PM
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35. Yes....there was more to his death than was reported...or will be for |
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Wed Jun-20-07 05:06 PM
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30. Both, plus the fact that he was an American |
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Technically he died from blood loss.
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Wed Jun-20-07 07:52 PM
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37. There is a significant portion of the muslim |
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population who are not enamored of Israelis
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Wed Jun-20-07 11:11 PM
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43. Which has what to do with the topic? |
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Thu Jun-21-07 02:09 PM
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44. Just as many in the US |
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equate all Muslims with the Taliban, there are many Muslims who equate all Jews with Israel and their policies which are not particularly well viewed in many parts of the world.
Does that clear it up for you?
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Thu Jun-21-07 03:53 PM
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46. OIC, you were just giving an example of anti-Semitism. |
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Wed Jun-20-07 08:29 PM
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and because he uncovering things that would have made our "crucial ally in the war on terror" look really bad.
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Wed Jun-20-07 08:54 PM
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40. Asra Nomani, a friend of Danny's and a former colleague at the WSJ |
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is running a class next fall at Georgetown to try to answer this question. Bernard-Henri Levy's book offers some answers. I find the case complicated and wish it was closed and done with.
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Thu Jun-21-07 02:16 PM
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45. Because he worked for the CIA |
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