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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:42 AM
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I now have proof the media lies
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3328461

I am at Take Back America. Hillary was booed by at least 50 people. This reporter is lying. How the hell can you confuse 50 with 8 to 12???
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:43 AM
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1. In a crowd of 3,000?
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 09:44 AM by SteppingRazor
I think it'd be easy to mistake 50 for 12.

As for "proof" the media lies ... um, Jayson Blair?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:49 AM
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3. The booers stood up and made their presence known
They were impossible to miss.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:52 AM
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5. Still. When it's 50 out of 3,000, that's easy to underestimate
I'm just saying I wouldn't call this an absolute example of a journalist lying through his teeth so much as a journalist simply failing to properly account for the numbers. That's all. Particularly given Kall's previous work, the idea that he would try to undercut booing at Clinton seems completely out of character.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:57 AM
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8. What he said isn't true.
I was there and I am sitting here with 10 people who are all questioning his version of events. We were all there.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:45 AM
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2. Wow. I really like Rob Kall, too. Wonder what happened? Maybe
he didn't have a good vantage point? in which case he shouldn't have written anything.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:50 AM
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4. I was standing right behind the media
He had a better view than I did if he was in media row.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:53 AM
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6. Here's a pic of him; go get 'em, sleuthiness!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:57 AM
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9. Oh you're good!
Yes I have seen him around. I will go look for him now.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:56 AM
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7. How Is That Even Close To Proof?
First of all, as other posters have said, that few people out of over 3000 is not all that significant of a miscalculation.

Furthermore, the estimates were given by actual audience members, not the reporter themselvses. Obviously, the people who were interviewed thought the number was the number. Who cares? Either way it wasn't a whole heck of a lot of people.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:59 AM
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10. So you are calling me and all the other people standing here with me liars??
Are you here? If not, then go ahead and take this reporter's word over ours. If you haven't figured out by now that we can't trust our media, then I don't know what to tell you.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:08 AM
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11. Did You Even Read What I Said? Sheesh.
Nowhere in my reply could one deduce such a nonsensical conclusion that I was calling you a liar. I think you need to read it again, since you must've misunderstood several things the first time around.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:29 AM
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16. "How Is That Even Close To Proof?"
Yes, I read your reply.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:12 AM
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12. Try contacting Rob. I bet he'll put up a correction. n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:29 AM
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17. Being taken care of as I type this
The Code Pinkers are on it. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:38 AM
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22. Keep 'em honest!
:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:15 AM
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13. Who cares? People do, and that's what proud was responding to:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:19 AM
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15. With All Due Respect, That Wasn't What The OP Was Responding To.
The OP specifically stated the media lied in reporting it. Now though the media lies every day, in the instance reference by the OP it wasn't the media who lied; it was people.

So all I did was respond to the OP premise appropriately.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:31 AM
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18. Rob Kall IS the media in this instance and he misrepresented what she saw
and heard. But you keep responding appropriately.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:32 AM
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19. So a reporter is NOT considered media?
He is the "people" who did not report the truth.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:15 AM
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14. So...you say it was .04%, and the press says it was .016% ?
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 10:17 AM by Vickers
That's hugh.

:P

Not saying the press doesn't lie its collective ass off, but there are more blatant examples.

/talon news

(edit: my math was off and backwards)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:33 AM
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20. There is a big difference between 8 - 12 and 50
4 times as many as he reported.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:34 AM
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21. Also, there are 3000 people registered and attending this conference
but not all 3000 were in the room when Hillary spoke.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:47 AM
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23. OK, how many were there?
:shrug:
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:23 AM
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24. 51
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:07 PM
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25. Maybe 1500
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