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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:10 AM
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Iraq becomes prime training ground for export of Jihadists
http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/iraq-becomes-prime-tra...


"The road to Baghdad was a one-way road, it has become a two-way highway," said Mohammed al-Masri, a researcher at Amman's Centre for Strategic Studies.

In a report released in April by the US government, Dennis Pluchinsky, a former intelligence expert in the State Department, said Iraq veterans were the most dangerous because they were better trained than their Afghanistan counterparts.

In the Al-Qaeda camps of Afghanistan, volunteers almost never see real fighting, according to those who have passed through.

In Iraq, if he survives, a Jihadist will have acquired unbeatable experience having been pitted against the world's best army."



http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/28/133...

"REP. DENNIS KUCINICH: The Democrats could have refused to send a bill forward. We didn't have to fund this war. We're not under any obligation to keep the war going. And yet our leaders took another path. Furthermore, Amy, you may be interested to know that the 2008 budget, which is before Congress today and will be voted on tomorrow, contains another $145 billion for the war, and on top of that, they're putting another $50 billion for the war in fiscal year 2009.

So this talk about ending the war by March or by September belies the fact that the budget has money in it to keep the war going into 2009.

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH: Our decisions have to be way above politics. We have the lives of our troops at stake here. There's no military victory in Iraq. We're there illegally. The occupation is fueling the insurgency. Democrats can still, after president Bush vetoes the bill, which he will, Democrats can still take the right position, which is refuse to fund the war, use money in the pipeline to bring the troops home."
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Maggie_May Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:15 AM
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1. Why is it
Dennis can speak the truth about this war and the funding of it and the rest of the Dems hide under cover? I very proud of Dennis being from my home state.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:29 AM
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2. When you are not in debt to others you can speak your mind :)
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:52 AM
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3. An unintended consequence, we're training them over there to
fight here???

Other links to the same story

http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20070619-024144-4371r

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Iraq_becomes_prime_training_ground__06182007.html


"The road to Baghdad was a one-way road, it has become a two-way highway," said Mohammed al-Masri, a researcher at Amman's Centre for Strategic Studies.

"There are still people going inside to join the fight but now there are people going out. Iraq is exporting terrorists," he said...

"There are some operation parallels between the urban terrorist activity in Iraq and the urban environments in Europe and the US," Pluchinsky wrote.

"More relevant terrorist skills are transferrable from Iraq to Europe than from Afghanistan to Europe."



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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:08 AM
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4. "Unintended," my ass
If you tell the cops "I didn't mean to hurt anybody while firing my gun from that moving car," you know what they do? They say boo-fucking-hoo and slap the cuffs on you. Gross negligence is gross negligence. The test is not what you wanted to happen but what any reasonable person could figure out what would happen.

The government was in possession of at least two studies that more or less predicted the character of the mess Iraq would turn into. Wilfully ignoring common sense warnings is not distinguished from premeditation under the law in many cases.

It's beyond me how they can straight faced dodge responsibility for creating this hell on earth.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:41 AM
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5. So true, I should not have used the word unintended. As the
article mentions our continued funding is helping to indirectly train militants in an environment and against a superior force that they can export to other countries. ;(
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