It is not ethical to destroy a human life to save one - bush just said this

[The Straight Story]

Talking about his veto of the stem cell bill.

[jobycom]

1. You can't make up stuff like this. You just can't. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. Ethics of any kind + Bush = oxyMORON

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

3. did he say "spinal bifa die da"?

[gollygee]

Then let's get the hell out of Iraq now!

*sigh*

[Solly Mack]

4. but it's OK to torture one under the pretense of saving another

and it's OK to kill as many as you need to when you invade a country for lies and trumped up evidence under the pretense of national security

that that man is still in office is a testament to how low America has sunk

[Virginia Dare]

5. bush lecturing about ethics...

and human life yep, that's the epitome of irony.

[IChing]

6. What are the chances of overriding this veto?

I forgot what the vote was.

[blondeatlast]

10. 64 yea, 34 no (IIIRC), not voting were 3 Dems, Landrieu, Johnson, and Dodd.

Literally a hair's breadth away from a veto proof majority.

We need to know how the Dems that missed the vote would have voted.

Here's the record:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00206

Just a breath away... (sigh)

[IChing]

15. thanks it looks like

it could be a historic major defeat for the chimp that might lead the way to other things.

[NewJeffCT]

16. The House was not as close, if I'm not mistaken

I'm pretty sure Dodd would have voted Yea, not sure on the other two.

[blondeatlast]

19. House: 253 yea, 174 nay, 8 mot voting.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll020.xml

[NewJeffCT]

20. so, nearly 40 short in the House

how depressing.

[blondeatlast]

23. No kidding. I watched it live, tallying the votes myself.

It just disgusted me (I've taken insulin since age 7 and have secondary complications).

[NewJeffCT]

25. Was last year's vote closer?

I had thought it was about the same.

I bet if we send this up again before the election, it will pass with veto proof margins. Now, it's 17 months until the next election and it's plenty of time for people to forget.

[blondeatlast]

29. Oops--I think that was fro HR3, not as efective as HR 5, which is here:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll443.xml

This is precisely the one we want passed, the RRRepublicans deliberatly created HR3 to confuse the issue.

I think it can happen; voters are getting angry about this issue.

StemPac seems not to have been updated in some time--kind of alarming and I haven't gotten e-mails, either.

http://www.stempac.com/weblog/

[IChing]

24. crap........n/t

[blondeatlast]

21. If the Dems would pressure Landrieu, she just might vote yea.

This is a case where I think the Dems need to hammer their own if she doesn't. Johnson I think is lost for this issue.

[Hippo_Tron]

27. Landrieu will vote yea, she did last time, Johnson is still unable to vote

[NewJeffCT]

26. the link has it 63-37

with Nelson being the only Dem voting "Nay"

[Bobbieo]

14. Iching - If we can't override this veto - forget it.

It makes me sick to my stomach to see that obnoxious little creep destroying my country the way he is and getting way with it. No one is stopping him and I don't think anyone can any more.

[rucky]

7. does that mean he just ended the "war on terra"?

:shrug:

[pwb]

8. When boooooosh speaks nobody listens anyway.

i have not learned one thing when he speaks.

[Kerrytravelers]

9. Is this a headline from The Onion?

I know, I know... it's real. But, a girl can dream, can't she?

[krispos42]

11. So when do we prosecute the 400 justifiable self-defense homicides a year?

And the 200 police justifiable homicides a year? Bet the cops will love that one.



Oh, and didn't a blowhard Republican recently support keeping all those troops in Iraq so that the terrorist will kill them there instead of bothering to kill us here?



And, finally and largest... doesn't that mean that killing a single Iraqi do save an American is also unethical?


Oh, the hypocracy abounds.

[Bluerthanblue]

12. oh .... Jesus....

"greater love hath no man than this that he lay down his life for a friend"-

Wasn't Jesus Christ supposed to be *'s greatest idol??

Is * saying the people who have died in his war on terra were not "ethical"?-
Who put them there? Who is arming them?
Who is 'ethical'???

If i stood before my child and defended them with my life, would i be un-ethical???

and this is the leader of the 'free-world'???

:shrug:

[Dhalgren]

13. So, is he canceling the self-defense argument from our legal system?

From now on, if some one is trying to kill you, you just have to shut up and take it?

[NewJeffCT]

17. they just don't do irony, do they?

this was like when Bush said that free people don't develop WMD while there were headlines in the day's newspaper about how the US was developing new "bunker busting" nukes.

[spanone]

18. Was he talking about Iraq?

:sarcasm:

[bdamomma]

22. * is a sick SOB.

enough is enough now, he is such a sick man. He has no regard for human life whatsoever.

[Crunchy Frog]

28. Life is precious when it consists of a small clump of undifferentiated cells...

Otherwise it ain't worth shit.