Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Jeb Bush in Chile: ''For too long, democracy has been defined as having a fair election''

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:47 PM
Original message
Jeb Bush in Chile: ''For too long, democracy has been defined as having a fair election''
Jeb Bush promotes Latin democracy

BY NATHAN CROOKS
June 19, 2007


SANTIAGO, Chile --
Increased entrepreneurship and a deeper understanding of democracy are the solutions to many problems confronting Latin America, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush told a gathering of business and political leaders.

Speaking at the Business Future of the Americas conference, Bush also promoted the development of biofuels throughout the region. Bush, co-chair of the newly formed InterAmerican Ethanol Commission, said biofuels production was a ''breakthrough opportunity'' for Latin America. ''We simply don't have enough corn in the U.S.,'' he said.










.....

The Business Future of the Americas conference was organized by the Chilean American Chamber of Commerce and drew attendees from over 20 countries throughout the region. As keynote speaker, ''unleasing entrepreneurialism'' was Bush's primary theme. He said the rise of populism in the region was occurring because of a ``perception that capitalism has not brought the promised benefits and that progress can only be achieved by government intervention.''



For Jeb, it's true that a stopped clock is right two times a day.










.....CALL FOR REFORMS

Bush urged Latin American leaders to push for increased transparency, more flexible labor laws, and sound fiscal policy in order to make Latin American economies more competitive.

''Lifelong employment is no longer a policy that can be adhered to anywhere,'' he said. ``Governments need to focus on education and training. The most important thing that we can all do is to make education the highest priority for the economy.''

Bush praised Chile as one notable exception in the region and said that even the United States envied Chile's sound fiscal policies.

He urged Latin American leaders to advance a deeper understanding of democracy.

''For too long, democracy has been defined as having a fair election,'' he said.


















``For those of use who believe in freedom and liberty, it's become crystal clear that elections and economic reforms are not sufficient unless they are backed up by good government and respect for private property and the rule of law.''

U.S. DIPLOMACY

Bush said that the United States has a role in increasing democracy throughout the region by expanding financial support, increasing work with multilateral organizations, and in reviewing agricultural policies that hurt the developing world.

''The U.S. can continue to fight for free trade agreements,'' he said.

.....












Go away, Jeb Bush.

JUST. GO. AWAY.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:49 PM
Response to Original message
1. I hope the Chileans plan an exorcism after he's gone.
The last thing Chile needs after forty years of Pinnochet's brutal dictatorship is the BFEE polluting their shores.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
2. I smell sulfur.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #2
29. Is that what that smell is?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:55 PM
Response to Original message
3. Damn those fair elections anyway.
Recommended and appreciate your post.

Jeb and George...dictator brothers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:55 PM
Response to Original message
4. Don't kid yourselves, people, we are going
to have to fight that ignorant, elitist putz in 2012. He will be back as the GOP candidate.

Stupid speeches like this one prove it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Nope... Jeb is an outcast with the BFEE and the neocons...
He lists his religious faith as Catholic, in contrast to the christian fundamental views of the neocons, and he married (gasp!) a Mexican woman and has mixed breed children, whom Poppy Bush "lovingly referred to" as the "little brown ones" when he introduced them to Ronnie Raygun in 1988.

He may have been a PNAC signer, but he doesn't fit in in their world view. The only thing they'll accept his wife and kids as are servants.

Just my not so humble opinion. And I'm NOT putting down Mexican women or mixed race kids, I'm just making an observation, so don't even try to flame me for this.

Ghost
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Jeb's wife comes from the same class of elitists that he does, just
from a different country. I don't think it will make a difference. They might even consider his ethnically mixed family a plus in 2012. All they have to do is put the right spin on it for their Kool-Aid drinking base and all will be well, just like with Cheney's gay daughter. You know those bigoted talking points don't apply when it comes to them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Point taken.. just look how the shrub has energized the fundies
and he's as far from a christian as I am...and I'm an atheist.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #7
20. The theocons are coming to terms with the Catholics
because the Catholics are against women's rights.

He'll be just peachy to them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. His offsprings' drug use and arrests (for lewd conduct, e.g.), plus his wife's tax evasion,
will become the subject of at least one "unauthorized" bio, you can bet on that, too.

Abramoff might put the kibosh on El Presidente Jeb, though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. I know about them...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Awesome site! Bwah!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #9
23. Offspring drug use? What about Jeb's brother? W had drug use, DWIs, was awol,
also had drunk obnoxious off spring, had a wife who killed her high school boyfriend, and had many shady business dealings (think about who funded his bad business decisions as well as who got funding for his baseball team) and it didn't bother him. We can let the BFEE fade away but to fully expose it and make them face REAL justice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #23
33. Maybe fed-up America will treat Jeb as France treated Louis XVI, as
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 05:08 PM by WinkyDink
as opposed to XIV.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #4
25. You got it. And he doesn;t actually have to "win", his "win" just needs to look plausible.
And it doesn't have to look very plausible, just sort of plausible. Even almost sort of plausible will be good enough for the Corporate Media to run with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:56 PM
Response to Original message
5. See, the secret truth about democracy is, and my brother George will back me up on this
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 05:22 PM by kenny blankenship
or he would if he wasn't drunk as a boiled owl, is that you don't have real democracy, good democracy, true democracy, unless the social and economic results of your democratic system are exactly the same as you'd get if corporations dictated all those results at gunpoint. Obviously, just having "fair elections" isn't enough to get you there--in fact just the opposite. You need a lot more than "fair elections", or else corporations will sooner or later really start pointing guns at people to get things back the way they need them to be. You need what I call a "sustainable" system for growth.

Now, we're not here to point a gun at you--today (hehheheheh) We're here today in this upside down hemisphere of yours to teach y'all about democracy, real American democracy. It's a simple lesson. Democracy is about the fine art of hiding the gun. You need to compel people, to chain their energies to the growth engine, to wring everything you can out of them profitwise, but without them being aware that they are being compelled, and without them seeing who and what it is that compels them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Mittens/Jeb '08.
It's in the bag.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #6
28. Then a "lone gunman" whacks Mittens in '09 just like Poppy tried to do to Reagan in '81
A ertain symmetry, dont cha' think.

Maybe Emperor Jeb and his patsy will get it right, givig Amerika 12 more years of Bush Imperium.

Yes, I know, very :tinfoilhat: and probably not true, but just how deep does the well of corruption GO for the Imperial family?

How deep did it go for the Caesars? As the Bushlers are the modern Caesers, right down to bitch slapping the Senate into line, I think it would be imprudent to dismiss it as a possibility.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:13 PM
Response to Original message
11. I wish we had increased transparency, more flexible labor laws, and sound fiscal policy here at home
what an asshole.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:16 PM
Response to Original message
13. Someone should elect Jeb and get him stashed away as a mayor in some
right-wing town so he won't be butting into Latin American affairs.

As Florida's governor, he still had time to meddle in elections there, conveying promises, and threats to countries which dared to run leftists as candidates.

These bastards need to be retired, actually. They are a blight to the entire world.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. How about Midland, Texas or Crawford, Texas. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:21 PM
Response to Original message
15. For too long Bush's have been confused with sentient beings n/t
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:23 PM
Response to Original message
16. See, these days you've got to fix elections to protect democracy.
It's the GOP way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. Kissinger, family friend and advisor, opined on democracy thusly:
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 05:30 PM by WinkyDink
Henry Kissinger once justified U.S. support for the Pinochet coup in Chile by saying, "I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its own people."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. They are using a variation of the same meme about Hugo
Chavez and Venezuela.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #16
32. LOL! Exactly!:
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:34 PM
Response to Original message
21. I didn't realize how angry I am at him until just now

It came on me like a flood. Here's a smart Bush who I thought had a conscience. But somehow his conscience was no match for the loyalty which has brought upon us billions wasted in Iraq, hundreds of thousands killed in Iraq, millions displaced in Iraq, New Orleans rotting, schools rotting, a country rotting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Just out of curiousity, what on earth gave you the idea he had a conscience, ever? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 06:10 PM
Response to Original message
24. When I first read that, I doubled up. I thought it must be The Onion!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. Not the Onion. Just the turnip.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 07:39 PM
Response to Original message
26. K&R Fair elections? What a "quaint" concept. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:45 PM
Response to Original message
30. So the inverse is, it's defined as having an unfair election...he's honest about his policies.

Just look at the state he governed.

His successor got in and immeidately distanced himself from Jeb on his racist policies, felon disenfranchisement, and on the DRE's that do so well for Republicans. Not that these are perfect antidotes but they sure indicate that the Jeb model is over.

Excellent thread.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:48 PM
Response to Original message
31. Beth in SF: Jeb, for too long you have ignored my one finger salute. nt
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 04:49 PM by sfexpat2000
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
34. Whereas Jeb's definition is 'Making sure my brother gets the job, whatever the voters want!'
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 06:23 PM by LeftishBrit
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 09:26 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC