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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:05 PM
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Reopen The Investigation Of Abu Ghraib-Even If It Leads To The Gates Of The White House (McClatchy)
Commentary: Re-open investigation of Abu Ghraib
By Joseph L. Galloway | McClatchy Newspapers
Posted on Wed, June 20, 2007

The president and his men, and Rumsfeld and his, happily put Abu Ghraib behind them and went merrily along knowing that the network of secret CIA prisons where high-value prisoners were subjected to extreme interrogation techniques was still secret.

...................

It’s long past time for Congress to reopen the matter of who’s really responsible for Abu Ghraib and let the chips fall where they may - even if that means they pile up around the retirement home of a former secretary of defense or the gates of the White House itself

How many more high crimes and misdemeanors will be revealed in the months to come? How long is it going to take to clean, polish and restore the White House and the Pentagon and all the other agencies of our government when this bunch moves out?

Let’s begin right here by serving subpoenas on all the rats that are lining up to skitter down the hawsers of a sinking ship, and getting to the TOP of all the sorry scandals of this administration, one by one.


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/17167.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:07 PM
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1. It’s long past time
way long past time
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:08 PM
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2. It's not on the table. At least not Pelosi/Reid table. Time we overturned the tables.
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 08:09 PM by Tom Joad
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:12 PM
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3. Yeah..."even if". nm
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:16 PM
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4. To the gates, through the gates, down the hall, into the bedroom, and probably
into the closet under a pile of dirty clothes where Bush and Cheney would be hiding and crying.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:18 PM
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5. well duh!! of course it leads to 'The Gates Of The White House'...
:eyes:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:22 PM
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6. Even if it leads to little King KKKrude Himself!
I don't want people tortured in my name, with my tax dollars paying for it!

The Constitution does not call for an American GESTAPO.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:31 PM
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7. K&R. It's time for indictments, prosecutions and accountability for crimes against humanity. n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:34 PM
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8. "Even if"? How about "especially because"?!
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:37 PM
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9. KARL ROVE WAS THE ARCHITECT OF GEORGE'S GRAND ADVENTURE
ONLY COULD BE RE-ELECTED IF HE WAS A "WAR" PRESIDENT
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:01 AM
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10. !
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:00 PM
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15. I agree
:)
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:05 AM
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11. Look at a freakin' org chart.
The contractors, the CIA agents and the military commanders behind it only have one supervisor in common.

We know all we need to know.
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petunia.here Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 03:00 PM
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12. especially, if K&R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 05:45 PM
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13. K*R

"How many more high crimes and misdemeanors will be revealed in the months to come?"



Nice line!
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 05:53 PM
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14. Thank god for McClatchy.
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 05:54 PM by tbyg52
(And I'm an atheist....)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:02 PM
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16. Yes, please
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:16 PM
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17. Yes indeed
What did the president know and when did he know it?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:26 PM
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18. Rumsfeld Implicated in War Crimes
Rumsfeld Shouldn't be Fired, He Should be Indicted
by Matthew Rothschild

“Secretary Rumsfeld has publicly admitted that . . . he ordered an Iraqi national held in Camp Cropper, a high security detention center in Iraq, to be kept off the prison’s rolls and not presented to the International Committee of the Red Cross,” the report noted. The Geneva Conventions require countries to grant the Red Cross access to all detainees. “

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-24.htm




Further Evidence Rumsfeld Implicated in War Crimes
Please read this important post by Marty Lederman, Army Confirms: Rumsfeld Authorized Criminal Conduct.

Here's a key section, but there's more:
The Army's charges against Jordan reflect the view, undoubtedly correct, that the use of forced nudity or intimidation with dogs against detainees subject to military control constitutes cruelty and maltreatment that Article 93 makes criminal. It doesn't matter whether they are or are not "torture," as such; nor does it matter whether the armed forces should be permitted to use such interrogation techniques: As things currently stand, they are unlawful, as even the Army now acknowledges.

But then how can we account for the actions of the Secretary of Defense and his close aides?

On November 27, 2002, Pentagon General Counsel William Haynes, following discussions with Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz, General Myers, and Doug Feith, informed the Secretary of Defense that forced nudity and the use of the fear of dogs to induce stress were lawful techniques, and he recommended that they be approved for use at Guantanamo.
(The lists of techniques to which Haynes was referring can be found in this memorandum.) On December 2, 2002, Secretary Rumsfeld approved those techniques for use at Guantanamo -- and subsequently those techniques were used on detainee Mohammed al-Qahtani.

In other words, the Secretary of Defense authorized criminal conduct.

...

Today's Army charge under UCMJ Article 93 against Lt. Col. Jordan -- for conduct that the SecDef actually authorized as to some detainees -- demonstrates that Rumsfeld approved of, and encouraged, violations of the criminal law.

http://www.discourse.net/archives/2006/04/further_evidence_rumsfeld_implicated_in_war_crimes.html







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