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Thu Jun-21-07 04:46 PM
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What SHOULD the minimum wage be? |
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For legal citizens that is. What's a good dollar figure for a struggling family or single person busting their ass to feed their kids?
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:47 PM
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1. kind of depends on the living expenses wherever they are... |
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should be indexed to local housing costs, food costs, etc.
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:55 PM
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13. We should set the minimum wage to $10 an hour. |
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I made $10 an hour 30 years ago. Today this would just allow someone to live with some amount of purchasing power.
Do you want to help enact a $10 an hour minimum wage?
Can you write a one line letter? Sure you can.
Send a one line letter to Representative John Boehner and Senator Mitch McConnell.
Either you get your Republican party to enact a $10 an hour minimum wage by Dec. 2007, and until you do, we will not go to the following restaurants and GOP contributors Wendy's, Outback Steakhouse, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, and Dominos Pizza who cannot afford to lose a large sector of the publics business and money .
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Thu Jun-21-07 05:48 PM
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23. I agree - with $12.00 within 5 miles of any urban area over 100,000 in population. |
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:47 PM
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2. If you work forty hours a week... |
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Your income should be equal to or greater than the poverty line.
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:48 PM
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Thu Jun-21-07 05:36 PM
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I think a national minimum wage is too broad to be as effective as it could be. Vary it by living costs in individual states. There's a fine line between giving good wages and hurting some small businesses. it sucks, but that's the shit economy we have. I've always thought corporations of a certain size should have to pay a higher minimum wage than small buisinesses. But knowing the corporate lawyers we have these days, they'd find some way to get around that.
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:48 PM
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3. $10 - $15 per hour + benefits (health insurance, daycare vouchers) |
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:48 PM
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4. That's what I'm thinking. |
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:50 PM
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10. Great point - I was thinking $12, but |
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the other essentials you mention slipped my mind. And they are essential.
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:53 PM
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Thu Jun-21-07 06:15 PM
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31. That could make things worst |
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Not everyone is worth $15 dollars + benefits on the market, so they won't be able to get hired and have a job in the first place.
I think that having more effective social programs like welfare, universal health care, and public daycare could fix the problems better than forcing the private sector to do it all.
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:49 PM
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6. No less that one thirtieth of the CEO's pay, all things included. |
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Thu Jun-21-07 06:12 PM
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30. i think taxes should be tied to management-to-employee compensation too. nt. |
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Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 06:12 PM by HardRocker05
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:49 PM
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When minimum wage was $1.25 an hour, gas was $.25 a gallon.
Based on that, $15 would be fair.
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:49 PM
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8. Poverty Level +$1 divided by 2000 hours per year |
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Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 04:50 PM by ThomWV
A person should be able to live at least slightly above the poverty level if they work full time. It is generally considered that there are 2,080 house in a working year. So it becomes (Pl+1)/2000 to give just a slight bust above Pl(Poverty Level).
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:50 PM
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9. I think that $10 an hour has been estimated to be a minimum. |
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A single person can live on $10 an hour in most states. My wife and I live on $15 an hour and we are well above the poverty level.
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:51 PM
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You get all the discounts.
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:56 PM
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14. at least housing wage |
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for your state. Here in Oklahoma, according to these folks, it should be at least $10.55 an hour. Good luck getting it here :eyes: http://www.nlihc.org/oor/oor2005/
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:57 PM
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it is AUD13,47 per hour. Plus access to that little extra called universal health care.
Peace
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Thu Jun-21-07 04:57 PM
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16. $12 per hour plus benefits |
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Thu Jun-21-07 05:11 PM
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17. It costs about $200. per day to "keep" a prisoner incarcerated. |
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So $199.00 per day sounds like a deal.
WHile we're at it let's replaace payroll taxes with carbon taxes on corporations--a revenue neutral solution and immediiate jobs & economy booster.
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Thu Jun-21-07 05:39 PM
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19. Let the market decide wages. |
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Thu Jun-21-07 05:42 PM
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20. How's that workin' out for ya? |
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If it were up to my boss...there would be NO minimum wage...
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Thu Jun-21-07 05:42 PM
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21. Then abolish "right to work" laws. |
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... and criminalize collaboration on wages and salaries by such organizations as NAM.
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Thu Jun-21-07 05:57 PM
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24. That's like letting the market decide private property by abolishing the police. Mad Max world. -nt |
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Thu Jun-21-07 06:15 PM
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32. Let the workers decide wages. |
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Thu Jun-21-07 06:20 PM
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34. The workers can decide the wages now |
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It all depends on the markets for labor, which vary in different regions across the country.
If there is low unemployment for unskilled labor, then the worker has bargaining power and will force businesses to raise wages.
The problem is if there is high unemployment for unskilled labor, then the businesses have the bargaining power and can set the wages low, since they know that someone will take their job offer.
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Thu Jun-21-07 05:47 PM
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22. at least 10 dollars an hour. |
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Thu Jun-21-07 05:58 PM
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25. 10 bucks an hr is a good start IMO |
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Thu Jun-21-07 05:59 PM
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26. Probably about 10% of the maximum wage. |
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Thu Jun-21-07 06:03 PM
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27. I don't think a maximum wage is enforceable. |
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There's 87,156,987,435,697,234 different ways a company could give perks to its executives. Forcing them to spend more at the botom is IMHO enough to curb their spending at the top.
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Thu Jun-21-07 06:18 PM
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33. I'd be willing to try with the use of a very progressive tax system. |
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Thu Jun-21-07 06:07 PM
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28. Raising the minimum wage too high can cause unemployment |
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An employer is only going to higher someone if they could make a return on their investment. If minimum wage is set to $15 an hour, but you only produce $10 an hour worth of work, you aren't gonna get hired. I'm not against a minimum wage, but there needs to be a balance so that both businesses and employees both get a fair deal.
Instead of pegging a minimum wage for a single person with a family, they should receive welfare and universal health coverage on top of what they are making.
The problem is that a married person with no kids and a single parent have completely different living wages. Government services could make sure that everyone can receive a living wage that is equitable to all, and lift some of the burden on businesses.
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Thu Jun-21-07 06:10 PM
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29. Federal: $8.00 and let states, cities, parishes set them higher if they wish |
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Thu Jun-21-07 06:51 PM
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Anything more would be harmful to small business.
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Thu Jun-21-07 08:29 PM
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38. How do you figure that? |
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Thu Jun-21-07 06:54 PM
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36. In terms of purchasing power |
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the $2.50 minimum wage of 1974 works out to something like $10.71 now.
I did the math awhile back.
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Thu Jun-21-07 06:54 PM
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37. $10/hr, adjusted for inflation, with free health care. |
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Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 06:55 PM by Alexander
And quite possibly salary caps for large corporations - ie, a CEO can't make more than 300 times what the lowest-paid worker makes.
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Thu Jun-21-07 08:42 PM
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39. at least 10 an hour, probably more |
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Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 08:46 PM by pitohui
and all those who whined about how it destroys the economy to pay a fair wage, interesting how in this area after katrina when wages went from $5 and change an hour to over $10 an hour, the economy did not crash, and we all buy food and clothes and gas and all the other shit just as well as we did when the persons selling it were paid slave wages -- interesting, that, seems like maybe people could have been paid fairly all along but instead it went into some corporate pocket and was whisked out of the city?
on edit -- of course the $10 an hour assumes the person receives full traditional benefits including health insurance and two week's paid vacation, if there are no/reduced benefits the pay needs to be quite a bit higher
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