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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 07:52 AM
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The problem with Democracies is occasionally they elect Criminals to office....
To Members of the House and Senate:

People who refuse to comply with the law and act in contravention of the law are known as 'Criminals.'

People who are elected to public office are known as 'Elected Public Officials.'

People who are elected to public office who refuse to comply with the law and act in contravention of the law are still known as 'Criminals.'

Because democracies allow the people to vote for their choice of candidates to occupy public office occasionally Criminals are elected to fill those offices.

The remedy for such errors by the voters in electing criminals to hold the offices of President and Vice President is in the United States' Constitution and known as 'impeachment by the House, and trial and removal by the Senate.'

This procedure has been utilized before and it needs to be used again.

And BTW members of the House and Senate who refuse to support the use of this procedure to rid ourselves of 'Criminals occupying our offices of President and Vice President' are known as 'aiders and abettors' of criminal conduct. Aiding and abetting criminal conduct is itself a crime, so you know what that makes aiders and abettors? I bet you do.

To refuse to stop criminal acts because it might cause you to lose a future election is not a valid excuse. The people elected their representatives to represent the interests of the electorate and not the personal interests of the elected representatives. Failing to protect the interests of the electorate is a failure to comply with their oath of office, and is a good reason to for the voters to vote them out of office.

Now that we understand how the system works, you have a choice. You can do your duty and support the process of 'impeaching and removing' the current President and Vice President, or you can look forward to being voted out of office at your next reelection.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 08:07 AM
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1. How many votes are you planning on casting in the next election?
Outside of DU how many Democratic Primary voters are thinking "If they don't vote for impeachment and soon, I will find another candidate in the primary?"

How many are thinking "Well if Senator So-and-so won't vote to impeach, I'll vote for an independent/republicanoid, to teach him a lesson"


Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 08:17 AM
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2. Or...
In a democracy, half of the people who exist and vote in a democracy have IQ's below 100 (or the average IQ).
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 08:20 AM
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3. I will consider looking at candidates outside the Democratic Party..........
but certainly NOT the rethug party. Voters have had it with the corporate single party system with its two factions; the corporacrats and the corpublicons.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 08:52 AM
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6. How many vote am I planning on voting.....zero
Why should I vote for those that aid and abet criminals? I refuse to do so and by the sounds of it my vote won't be counted anyway. "Tune in, Turn on, Drop out". Unless Democrats change drastically in the next few months there will be one less vote they can count on...You ask why would I allow the Republicans to resume control.. When did they lose it? They still seem to control all avenues and especially democrat's courage..
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 09:11 AM
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8. I am advocating working 'within the system' to effect change....
I work to change the slate of candidates running for office 'within the Democratic Party' and as such I think it is perfectly acceptable to support Party opponents to those presently in office who refuse to uphold the oath of office they took.

I have never advocated voting for a Republican or an independent who will insure a Republican wins.

Democracies require 'work' in order for them to function as intended. Part of that 'work' is let your representative know you expect them to represent the interests of the people, and that you are prepared to support another candidate 'within the party' if they do not.

The best example of this was the recent Lieberman race in which Lamont won the Party nomination.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 08:22 AM
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4. I agree.
We shouldn't vote for anymore cowards.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 08:52 AM
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5. The best political systems are the ones that keep bad politicians from doing damage.
The late philosopher Karl Popper once said that the proper question a political philosopher should ask is not "who should rule?", which always leads to an authoritarian answer, but "How can we design a political system that is resistant to the effects of bad rulers?".
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 09:05 AM
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7. I prefer the Douglas Adams quote...
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 09:52 AM
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9. Dems WANT us to save them. Impeachment is the Cure. . .
Edited on Fri Jun-22-07 09:52 AM by pat_k
. . .Their survival is at stake -- "battered Democrats syndrome" is killing them (and the nation).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1159484&mesg_id=1159484">Impeachment is the Cure
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 10:44 AM
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10. The Cheney Administration has taught me that
A Capitalist corptocracy disquised as Democracy can degenerate into Authoritarian rule in about a week.
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