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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:02 PM
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WND reporting on smoking gun evidence against Hillary.
and the rightie blogosphere is going nuts. Have you guys seen this? My view is that one mans smoking gun is another persons useless video that doens't prove anything. Oh and they file the story under "Rodham Watch". I'm not a huge Hillary fan, but I'd like to know how you all think they're taking this and putting it thru their own spin cycle.

"The full, five-minute videotape touted as "smoking gun evidence" of two felonies committed by Sen. Hillary Clinton has been released to WND.

As WND reported, the tape was submitted as evidence to a California appeals court yesterday in a civil fraud suit against the New York Democrat and her husband, former President Bill Clinton.

WND reported in April the tape indicates Clinton – despite denials throughout six years of investigation – was directly involved with business mogul Peter Franklin Paul in producing a lavish Hollywood fundraiser in August 2000 that eventually cost Paul nearly $2 million."



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56305
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:06 PM
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1. i can't work up any outrage over this story. I have Clinton Arkansas project fatigue.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:07 PM
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2. World Net Daily?
I don't plan on voting for Clinton in the primary but - oh, puh-leeze.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:07 PM
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3. Seriously, i second your puh-leeze.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:09 PM
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5. Ditto.....worse conspiracy theory ever
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:11 PM
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7. They are STILL suffering from CDS
Clinton Derangement Syndrome....kinda like our bush-derangement-syndrome, but without supporting facts.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:10 PM
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6. Video is Video
...regardless of the source. The only question is whether or not this will turn out to be a fake. Time will tell.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:11 PM
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10. yeah but what constitutes a smoking gun could be subjective too, right?
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 01:47 PM
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19. Me Too
I've been hearing snippets about this, and would like to see a clear and clean debunking of it.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 02:01 PM
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22. thats what I asked for and was accused of being a right wing mole.
:mad:
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 04:45 PM
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28. True believers take sincere questions as accusation and they do not take well to heretics
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:11 PM
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8. I know. But, i would like to know what this is about so I can respond to it....
anyone ever heard of this before?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:15 PM
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13. Seriously, I expect better from you
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:22 PM
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16. wow. i just wanna know what the hell this is about because it's posted on a board I chat on. jesus.
all people here are saying is it's on WND so it's crap. well that may work here, and I agree, but it doesn't work "out there".

I've never heard of this story and I thought maybe some here have.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:08 PM
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4. This would make a great addendum to "The Clinton Chronicles"
I bet Jerry Falwell's looking up from Hell right now, pissed off about not being able to do it.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:11 PM
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9. Jerry Falwell is now sitting in some white room eating nothing but Cheez Doodles
and watching an unending loop of The Clinton Chronicles, over and over and over and over. He thinks he's in Heaven, but he'll figure out where he really is soon enough.

:evilgrin:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:12 PM
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11. Oh goodie, more Clinton felony scandal wet dreams from the people who gave us impeachment over a bj.


These people need a hobby. Ok, a hobby other than hunting down the Clintons.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:12 PM
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12. This is extreme right wing spin...
Edited on Fri Jun-22-07 12:16 PM by saddlesore
WND is useless and I am surprised that at the same time Waxman calls Cheney to the mat they release this crap...great.

Something big is up...this is going to be a wicked summer...

Wake up...America...the fight has just begun.

Edit: Uhmmm..make that not surprised...:shrug:
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:17 PM
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14. Isn't /wasn't there a rule against citing wingnut sites as a source?
Edited on Fri Jun-22-07 12:18 PM by Capn Sunshine
Because WND is the premier of the wingnut wackadoodle daily talking points.
You should be ashamed bringing that foul trash in here.

And it makes me highly suspicious of your presence here.
:hi: hiya, moles!
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:26 PM
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17. oh come on! I'm a mole? that's hilararious. do a search on me for christs sake...
i'm a dyed in the wool democrat. the worst kind...I'd vote for the devil if there's a d next to his or her name.

anyways....


I KNOW IT's from a right wing site, but it's out there and some of us foot soldiers do battle with these freaks everyday on the internets. if ya cant shed any light on the subject just say so, but i take your assumption about me with GREAT offense. great offense. you've pretty much ruined my day. thx.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:53 PM
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18. We'd lose half our entertainment value if we couldn't cite RW sources
Besides, how can you have fun with RWnuts if you can't debunk what THEY'RE reading?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 12:18 PM
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15. I thought the Republicans were against campaign finance laws?
:rofl:

Oh the hypocrisy, I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. and Mrs. Crook did it, but I think it's pretty damn funny to see them going after her on a campaign finance statute.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 01:49 PM
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20. let the creeps argue this out in their own forum. Crap from WND has no place here
Edited on Fri Jun-22-07 01:49 PM by bigtree
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 02:00 PM
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21. thanks for the help, not. the forums are made up of all kinds of people, including lots of
dems and progressives. i was just looking for a little assistance on how to counter this claim? some history on the case. the non validity of it. but whatever - I'm sorry I ever asked.





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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 02:07 PM
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23. You raise a very interesting issue
As one, who has stamina to fight the RW on mixed boards, you have the right to expect to be able to get info on RW claims.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 02:08 PM
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24. From the folks who brought you "Joe Wilson outed his own wife..."
I'm not even going to click the link. It's not anywhere on the news.google.com or Yahoo top stories, and it would be by now if anyone but Wingnut Daily were hawking it.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 02:09 PM
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25. $100 million to investigate Whitewater; $15M to "investigate" 9/11
Got to get those priorities straight!


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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 02:10 PM
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26. ok, what exact laws did they break now???
:shrug:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 02:12 PM
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27. Hello! No WMD in Iraq! Evidence here!
why on earth is this even relevant? It's phoney Whitewater hocuspocus all over again.
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