Chinese Labor Safety Standards summed up in one picture

[DS1]

[meegbear]

1. He's wearing gloves and safety glasses ...

what's the problem?

[DS1]

2. Flammable safety glasses

:think:


:D

[meegbear]

11. You're right!

You're so ISO-9000!

[Dhalgren]

3. How about a tinted welding shield? He will be blind in no time...

[DS1]

5. I'm fairly sure that was a sarcastic answer

;-)

[Dhalgren]

9. Yeah, I know. I used to weld some and it just makes me cringe to

see that guy welding with un-tinted glasses. I don't see how he does it.

[TZ]

4. my old safety officer used to complain about us not wearing our safety glasses

This might be the one exception to the case.....:crazy:

[MannyGoldstein]

6. Free Trade is Sooooooo Kewl!!!

I'd like to thank the Clintons, and their enablers (e.g., John Edwards) for such an awesome opportunity! Destroying our jobs, poisoning our people, and injuring tons of Chinese folks is a small price to pay for the shekels that changed hands.

[Stop Cornyn]

13. Most people who know trade reach a different conclusion than you about Edwards (I prefer Kucinich's

views on trade but consider Edwards's the best among the "top three" candidates).

Union member lines up with Edwards By T.J. Hatfield

I am a union member who has decided to support John Edwards for President.

One of my duties is Quad-City Federation of Labor delegate. It is always an honor to talk with those who have fought for the rights of workers for as long as I have been alive. I have learned two things from my elders and betters. First, there is no off season when it comes to fighting for workers’ rights.

John Edwards understands this. He realizes many working families are a missed paycheck or an illness away from ruin. He is the only candidate with a comprehensive health care plan that is workable.

The second thing I have learned is our obligation to shine light on injustice. We aren’t here to cut deals or sneak in the back door. Unions work best when we expose what’s wrong and build on what’s right. John Edwards is a reliable ally in fixing what ails this country. He talks about ending poverty not because it garners applause, but because he knows it is the first step in the restoration of a fairer, freer, more prosperous America.

I urge all those who work for a living, organized or not, to visit JohnEdwards.com, learn about Sen. Edwards, and join me in supporting his candidacy.

T.J. Hatfield

http://www.qctimes.com/articles/2007/06/11/opinion/letters/doc466c71b6b57f7829200889.txt

Edwards works the union crowd By PATRICK MEIGHAN

HOLLIS – John Edwards couldn’t have asked for better weather or a more receptive audience when he stopped by a Saturday picnic for a carpenters union. The more than 300 members present from N.H. Local 118 weren’t wearing choir robes, but they may as well have been as Edwards preached to them about the important role organized labor plays in America. Edwards, former senator from North Carolina and Democratic presidential candidate, hammered home a message of strengthening the middle class through strengthened unions.

...

“He’s the only one – every time I see him – he talks about how important unions are,” Skidmore said. Luis Sanchez, a carpenter from Manchester, said Edwards was the ideal speaker on a day of celebration for his union.... Sanchez said he liked Edwards’ speech, adding, “He a good candidate for all of us.”

...

Edwards noted that since the 2004 election, when he was the Democratic vice presidential candidate, he’s been traveling throughout the nation to help organize workers and to get legislation passed to raise the minimum wage. Six states have passed laws raising the wage, he said.... “The greatest anti-poverty movement in American history is the organized labor movement,” Edwards said. “America needs to understand how important the organized labor movement is to lifting millions of families out of poverty, and how important the movement has been historically in making America what it is today.”

He added, “The organized labor movement was absolutely crucial to building the middle class in this country. We all worry about the loss of manufacturing jobs. A lot of people have forgotten that none of those jobs were good jobs before the unions. It was the unions that made them good jobs.”... “If you can join the Republican Party by signing your name to a card, any worker in America should be able to join a union by doing the same thing,” he said.

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070513/NEWS08/205130425/-1/news08

[MannyGoldstein]

17. Edwards Voted for Permanent 'Free' Trade With China

Repeat: Edwards Voted for Permanent 'Free' Trade With China

If you believe that someone who votes for legislation that will clearly destroy jobs (and was a major cheerleader of the Iraq War) will be pro-labor (and anti-war) when he sits in the White House, then so be it. I'd much prefer a candidate who consistantly votes for the workin' stiff, and against insane wars.

[Stop Cornyn]

19. Right. And Dennis Kucinich used to be pro-life, and Barack Obama used to go by "Barry," and Hillary

used to have this hair style:

http://thehive.modbee.com/files/images/Hillary%20Clinton.bmp

You need to climb out of your time capsule and join the modern times.

[MannyGoldstein]

20. Being Called Barry = Voting For Job Obliteration?

Do you see a difference here? Even a teeny-weeny difference?

:think:

[Stop Cornyn]

21. Is the difference that Edwards is now pro-fair trade and Obama's family members still call him Barry

To me, the fact that they are both in the past is the salient similarity.

Out of curiosity, do you lambaste Dennis Kucinich for being pro-life as much as you protest about about Edwards being pro-"free" trade?

To anyone who actually follows the candidates on trade issues, attacking Edwards as a "fair" trader is equally as anachronistic as attacking Kucinich as a pro-lifer. Both characterizations are ill informed at best and duplicitous at worst.

[MannyGoldstein]

22. Permanent 'Free' Trade With China Is A Pivotal Issue

It was pretty obvious - free trade with a country where workers are paid $2 a day would obliterate US jobs. Any vote for this was purely a vote to help the Predator Class fuck the Middle Class - end of story.

What you're saying is that there is zero political price to be paid for awful votes, like this, and like the IWR, bankruptcy bill, 'Patriot' Act, ... No matter how irresponsible or evil an action, it can be smoothed over by saying "oops, sorry". meanwhile, millions of jobs, thousands of lives, and trillions of dollars have been lost because of Edwards' actual actions. Ooops indeed.

Has Edwards really changed? Or is he playing windsock? I'm not sure - but this is the presidency we're talking about, and we shouldn't gamble.

[Stop Cornyn]

24. I trust David Bonior's judgment on labor matter over my own and certainly over yours

When he was in Congress, David Bonior was the best friend labor had in a generation. Bonior is Edwards's campaign chief. Do you really think you are better equipped to judge Edwards on labor questions than Bonior? Even if you believe you are better equipped that Bonior to assess Edwards's positions on labor, do you really think any disinterested third party would trust your judgment over Bonior's?

Bonior sets tough tone as Edwards' election boss - A fiery union loyalist, former Michigan congressman is not a typical campaign chief.

CONCORD, N.H. -- David Bonior, the Macomb County politician who rose to the top leadership levels of Congress, is not your typical campaign manager.

But as the director of John Edwards' Democratic presidential bid, Bonior says he's staying true to his hardened pro-union beliefs, while also proving to be a nontraditional character on the national campaign stage.... "This isn't a job. It's a cause," said Bonior, who rose to the No. 3 leadership position in the U.S. House before stepping down to run for governor. Edwards, Bonior says, is the only major candidate talking about poverty and the plight of working-class families....

Certainly Bonior's presence is likely to get Edwards more of a hearing with Michigan's auto workers than Barack Obama, whose speech last month to the Detroit Economic Club, criticizing domestic carmakers' lack of progress on fuel mileage, has gotten bad reviews in the state.... He contrasted Obama's speech with Edwards' talk to Democrats in Detroit in April. Edwards proposed rebuilding the auto industry with technology, just as his native North Carolina recovered from the loss of textile jobs by going high-tech....

"Organized labor is an important part of presidential politics in terms of manpower, ideas and financial resources," Bonior said. "John Edwards has, I think it's very fair to say, the most support among workers and organized labor of any candidate. I think that will start to manifest itself as we get into the fall."

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070611/POLITICS/706110336/1022

[MannyGoldstein]

25. And Did You Trust Edwards' Judgement On The IWR More Than Mine?

After all, he was on the Senate Intelligence Commitee, so he had access to far more intellgence than the most other senators. Oddly enough, his fellow Democrats on that committee voted against the IWR. Strange.

[Stop Cornyn]

26. I'm just pointing out that your condemnation of Edwards's views on trade is poorly thought out. I'm

not defending Edwards generally or defending his (wrong) vote in the Iraq War Resolution specific.

No doubt, Edwards's vote was wrong, and I understand that he admits as much. I lean toward Kucinich, who was right on IRW (as he is on most issues).

For what it's worth, however, 77 Senators made the same mistake as Edwards, including 29 Democrats:

* Wayne Allard (R-CO)
* George Allen (R-VA)
* Max Baucus (D-MT)
* Evan Bayh (D-IN)
* Bob Bennett (R-UT)
* Joe Biden (D-DE)
* Kit Bond (R-MO)
* John Breaux (D-LA)
* Sam Brownback (R-KS)
* Jim Bunning (R-KY)
* Conrad Burns (R-MT)
* Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-CO)
* Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
* Jean Carnahan (D-MO)
* Tom Carper (D-DE)
* Max Cleland (D-GA)
* Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
* Thad Cochran (R-MS)
* Susan Collins (R-ME)
* Larry Craig (R-ID)
* Mike Crapo (R-ID)
* Tom Daschle (D-SD)
* Mike DeWine (R-OH)
* Christopher Dodd (D-CT)
* Pete Domenici (R-NM)
* Byron Dorgan (D-ND)
* John Edwards (D-NC)
* John Ensign (R-NV)
* Mike Enzi (R-WY)
* Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
* Peter Fitzgerald (R-IL)
* Bill Frist (R-TN)
* Phil Gramm (R-TX)
* Chuck Grassley (R-IA)
* Judd Gregg (R-NH)
* Chuck Hagel (R-NE)
* Tom Harkin (D-IA)
* Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
* Jesse Helms (R-NC)
* Fritz Hollings (D-SC)
* Tim Hutchinson (R-AR)
* Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
* James Inhofe (R-OK)
* Tim Johnson(D-SD)
* John Kerry (D-MA)
* Herb Kohl (D-WI)
* Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
* Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
* Joe Lieberman (D-CT)
* Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
* Trent Lott (R-MS)
* Richard Lugar (R-IN)
* John McCain (R-AZ)
* Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
* Zell Miller (D-GA)
* Frank Murkowski (R-AK)
* Bill Nelson (D-FL)
* Ben Nelson (D-NE)
* Don Nickles (R-OK)
* Harry Reid (D-NV)
* Pat Roberts (R-KS)
* Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)
* Rick Santorum (R-PA)
* Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
* Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
* Richard Shelby (R-AL)
* Robert Smith (R-NH)
* Gordon Smith (R-OR)
* Olympia Snowe (R-ME)
* Arlen Specter (R-PA)
* Ted Stevens (R-AK)
* Craig Thomas (R-WY)
* Fred Thompson (R-TN)
* Strom Thurmond (R-SC)
* Robert Torricelli (D-NJ)
* George Voinovich (R-OH)
* John Warner (R-VA)

Of these, Edwards was joined in his erroneous vote by fellow Democratic members of the select committee Evan Bayh, John Rockefeller, and Dianne Feinstein.

[KelleyKramer]

23. Your concern is noted

nt

[VP505]

7. While enjoying

my US Gov all expense paid tour of South East Asia, I remember seeing many similar scenes. Welders W/O gloves, shirt or shoes and in short pants squatted several stories up on an I beam happily spot welding beams together. I remember seeing a guy killing bugs (mosquitoes) buzzing around a mud puddle with one of those old fashion sprayers full of gas or kerosene with a lit candle mounted on the tank, sort of a mini flame thrower. Safe, prolly not but oh so functional, lol.

[Vilis Veritas]

8. This is nothing.

They have 8 year old kids working in the fireworks at SCHOOL over there. They get their hands blown off and go home dead.

The level of atrocities in China is so vast...and the west is funding it all.

Edit link added: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/east/03/07/china.school.blast.03/

Peace

[Dhalgren]

10. The Chinese workers are treated worse than slaves. At least slaves

are usually considered to be an expensive asset, but these poor Chinese workers are not valued, at all. It is sickening, and shameful and not just for the Chinese government and ruling class...

[Gold Metal Flake]

12. Rec'd

There it is. How in hell can an American compete against that? Someone so poor that they are willing to go blind for a buck a day. Or perhaps this person has no idea how much ocular damage he is sustaining, and his employer and his government (perhaps one and the same) would rather to profit by keeping him "in the dark" about his health and safety. This is the face of Free Trade. The Flat Earth.

If this is how you are willing to live, there is work for you, at least until someone steps forward to weld without the added cost of a pair of glasses, a page from a magazine and a tissue.

<sarcasm>No fucking fat, lazy Union asshole would get off his ass and earn an honest day's wages by burning the nerves at the center of his retina.

I'm sure the Liberal media will pick up on this picture when presenting stories about outsourcing.</sarcasm>

[Ezlivin]

14. Why should I care as long as I can get it cheaper at Wally World?

If American consumers could be made to care about the conditions in which their products were produced perhaps things could be made to change.

I tell my mother one week that Wal-Mart is destroying the earth and crushing live babies with a steamroller to make lamp shades. The next week she says "So we went to Wal-Mart and they had such a good price on this piece of shit I couldn't live without."

I love my Mom and am thankful as hell that Wal-Mart didn't have an Ob/Gyn clinic operating when I was born.

[ReadTomPaine]

15. China is a GOP wet dream

They cannot make this country like China fast enough. No environmental laws, one party politics, suppression of dissent, control of free speech, A labor market where a PhD nets you around 10-12$ an hour - China has it all by Republican standards.

You can always tell when someone from the GOP returns from a visit to the mainland - they look like eager hogs on the way to the trough. Their friends in Chinese government & big biz have shown them how to take a piece of China home to you and me.

[Ganja Ninja]

16. I'm sure that for a little less money we can find someone ...

somewhere that'll do that job without the glasses, gloves and paper mask. And there's no telling how much money we can save if we're allowed to put a gun in someone's back or whip them.

[eppur_se_muova]

18. Beat me to it! I saved this pic just for DU ...