For those who think Cellphones spying on your life is tin foil

[undergroundpanther]

This is why I think it is NOT tin foil.
I think since the Bushista government has said in the Pnac documents it wants FULL SPECTRUM DOMINATION of the WORLD. So you might as well first ponder what that really MEANS..
http://www.unknownnews.org/061019a-Panther.html

So,on issues of domination and control I take these psychopaths seriously .They have no ethics or boundaries and with congtress being such suckups they have no boundaries put on them.When the Bush pigs do things like this it's done in the name of control and domination of the people. Ever hear of"smart mobs" They rely on cell phones.http://www.smartmobs.com/book/book_bib_ch_9_0_30.html

The Bush thugs if you THINK more like them and stop thinking they are like YOU or me,and realize they are sociopaths operating in another reality, they DO have a vested interest in spying on as many people as they can, but keeping thier own secrets secure. The Bush administration follows this pattern I mean what did Cheney just say to the National Archives? Buzz off I am above the law.. So spying on people through cell phones is not a big stretch of imagination here..And they have been selling us on the technology to spy on us more effectively too.

Howabout that new Iphone? 45 million predicted to be sold by 2009..45 million sets of eyes on the people's lives by 2009.
http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/06/07/45m.iphone.sales... /
But why buy an Iphone if you can do THIS?
Hacking a motorola into an Iphone.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/hacking-a-moto-slvr-into-a-makeshift-iphone-220553.php?mail2=true
http://digg.com/gadgets/Hack_Attack_Turn_your_Windows_Mobile_phone_into_an_iPhone
And if people can turn a windows or motorola phone into an Iphone,don't say cellphones cannot be hacked and carry spyware.
Here are some links to drive the point home.

First Cellphone worm.. (article was written in 2004..BTW)
The first virus to spread from one cell phone to another has been created, the Russian anti-virus software vendor Kaspersky Labs announced on Tuesday
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn5111

GSM phone encryption "can be cracked"(this one is from 2003)
The encryption system that protects the almost 900 million users of GSM cell phones from instant eavesdropping or fraud is no longer impregnable, cryptologists claim.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4130

(Can you say I (spy) phone?
Enjoy it while you can (this article is dated October 2003

Are the latest mobile phones too smart for their own good? Once the viruses get to work, intelligence could be their undoing, says Duncan Graham-Rowe

IT LOOKS like any other mobile phone. And you would probably be delighted to be given one. What you would not realise, however, is that it is not quite what it seems. Most of the time it operates exactly like any other handset. But just one call from a particular number and it can be switched on without your knowledge, with no outward sign that it is operating. Everything you say will be captured and sent across the network to the eavesdropper, yet you will have no idea that anyone is listening in.

http://www.educatedguesswork.org/movabletype/archives/2...

More on cellphone spyware
http://www.spywareinfo.com/newsletter/archives/0104/6.e...

If you think this cellphone spying stuff is"tin foil" you are in full on head in the sand denial.
To quote Snog,
There is no America ,There is no Democracy only IBM,Union Carbide Exxon,...

Down the way in Oceania,
night is day
there ain't no explainin' er.
C.P.W. means freedom for me and you.
90210 is a pleasant thought control.
Hell, I'm in love with Big Brother,
soothes my mind like no other.
Makes me feel safe,
makes me feel right.
Squeezes my mind and holds me tight.

There's a sleepin' sickness
as I'm your witness.
There's a two-headed hydra
but I wouldn't vote for neither.
There's a vague uneasiness
I think they call it Big Business.
There's a deep black hole
I think the ancients called it a soul.

But, I'm in love with Big Brother,
soothes my mind like no other.
Makes me feel safe,
makes me feel right.
Squeezes my mind and holds me real tight.

Down the way in Oceania
night is day there ain't no explainin' ER
War is peace,
a piece of the profit.
Don't make sense,
think I'll tell 'em to stop it...

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. I Really Don't Expect Much Privacy On The Phone Or Net

Too easy to tap into...

[undergroundpanther]

3. I don't think we have ANY privacy left.

People already submit to piss tests to get a job.Piss tests, The employer by forcing you to give up YOUR body fluids on command for him to analyze. This basically sets up the expectation that he owns you.. even when you are not at work.

He doesn't want his wage/quickly becoming chattel,slave doing any unsavory recreation at home.And coming to work high.
If you come to work high most people can look at you ands observe that. People worked at jobs for many years without needing to pee in a cup on conditions of employment. This piss test routine was a manufactured"necessity".A made up problem ,that caused a reaction, and business made up a solution and the people obey it.When in reality piss tests are a part of the drug war which is a war made up to force non violent people in jail where their labor is even cheaper.A warm up for the panapticon slave labor empire business wants to create..

That piss test thing is a very intrusive invasion of the workplace into private lives.
People submit to this shit because they are scared of scarcity.

Scared of not having some.
And the material demands of maintaining existence itself here..is what these pigs above us use to lure us into the employment trap with and use deprive us of security from them with. Still stupid people obey master's demands even if he gives up his own well being,body mind and thoughts.Always labor is doing what the 'owner' wants. They are giving up freedoms and rights on command and threats, but ironically these dependant serfs who think they are so self sufficient,never think to bite the business parasite's hands reaching into the serfs cherished and always to skimpy wallet or bladder or privacy... (Wallet is made skimpy on purpose, for the cheaper the labor is willing to sell itself,the more the labor class will tolerate abuses by the overlord class)

Speaking of intrusion ,the inclusion of video gaming as a psychiatric disorder..This means yet another disorder the employers are gonna want to test and monitor employees for that..too..Just wait.
http://www.konformist.com/2000/psych-lies.htm

[kestrel91316]

6. I've never drug-tested any of my employees, and have no plans to

do so. BUT safety is an extremely important issue in this particular workplace, and an employee that is the least little bit impaired is a hazard to me, to him/herself, my patients, and my clients. I have suffered potentially career-ending hand injuries more than once because an employee got inattentive during restraint.

If your recreational drugs linger AT ALL and persist into your working hours, it IS my business.

Just the employer's side of things for you to mull over.......

[undergroundpanther]

8. restraint of what?

What kind of stuff do you do?

[undergroundpanther]

9. mulled it

And yet you don't piss test. Good for you.Employers went without piss tests for a long time.I think they'll do fine as you do.You cannot force someone to pay attention as much as you'd hope because employees aren't slaves or robots they are human and humans are not perfect.But also shit happens. I think piss tests are a manufactured need..like cars.

[Jim Warren]

2. I don't know

I was out in Vegas recently visiting a very good friend. He's in the midst of closing a pretty big deal, around a $100M, and he mentioned he noticed some of the players involved with the financing discreetly but matter of factly remove the battery when not in use.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Very Easy To Monitor Cell Phone Communications..

eom

[Trillo]

5. No wonder the Executive Branch claims they're exempt from their own laws. n/t

[kestrel91316]

7. This creeps me out and reminds me of Stephen King's book "Cell", lol.

But I also think it is highly feasible, and that if it can be done, Bushco is already doing it.

Why do you think they are so secretive about EVERYTHING?? They are spying on EVERYONE - and they are spying on their political opponents far more than on any frickin' "terrorists". I happen to think they are paying for this out of the military black budgets.

Call me paranoid. I don't put ANYTHING past these fascist totalitarian fuckwads anymore.

I have an El Cheapo Tracfone that I rarely use and keep turned off 99.9% of the time. Heck, most of the time the battery is run down, lol. And it's going to stay that way except when I need it charged up.

[chknltl]

10. If may add fuel to the fire.

I saw just the other day a story where a family was stalked through their cell phones. Somehow the stalker had gained access to their conversations both on an OFF those phones. Another words the stalker was supposedly able to monitor conversations in a room where the cell phone was there but not in use. I do not know how this could be possible and I was not convinced one way or the other but it is food for thought. I do not trust those "sociopaths" as you call them, who run our government any further than I can piss on them. I suspect they would love the ability to monitor us on our cell-phones, the ones resting quietly in our pockets, on our tables and nightstands. With just the tiniest bit of added tinfoil to my thinking: I would not put it past them to broadcast subliminals through cell phones either! That cell phone sitting there all nice and idle may become a future method of emotion control and perhaps even thought control...that is if it hasn't already...imagine that my chums here in this Brave New World!

Another great and thought provoking post undergroundpanther.

[BlooInBloo]

11. Seems to be real... Non-conspiracy-theory sites have it...

http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/03/fbi-taps-cellphone-mics-to-eavesdrop-on-criminals/

Of course, out-battery solves the problem.

I wonder if you'd be able to tell they were checking in on you from the unshielded-speaker-noises you get when a cell phone is active?

[chknltl]

12. Governments spying on each other...through blackberrys??!!!

http://www.watchingamerica.com/lemonde0000145.shtml
An Australian DUer just turned me on to the homepage link which had this as but one of it's many articles. I have had little time to explore the entire site but this article popped off the page at me just moments after reading your thread undergroundpanther. I suspect many here will appreciate it's relevence.

[ReverendDeuce]

13. Sigh... Why do I BOTHER debunking?

This post is absolutely astounding...

Regarding the several links about "hacking your Windows phone into an iPhone"... Dude, seriously! Read the article. All they are doing is applying a new skin and some other stupid shit:

The steps involve removing the iTunes 100-song limit, installing a microSD card for more storage, adding a new browser, an Apple-ish skin, and swapping off the faceplate. Sure, this is pretty ghetto and will only fool the most luddite of friends, but it's definitely better than a stock SLVR.

Regarding the link about GSM encryption being hacked. Now pay attention to the last line of the story... 3G phones = unaffected. Now, let's say you don't have a 3G phone these days. So, someone with a ton of money might possibly be able to intercept your phone call and listen in. This is nothing new. This has nothing to do with taking remote control of your phone!

This is the craziest series of threads I've read in here for a while. Typically I don't take the bait, but for some reason this is particularly irritating!

[NoPasaran]

14. But... but....

He posted SONG LYRICS! How could it not be true?

:sarcasm: