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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 01:52 AM
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Buzzflash: Top 10 Reasons to Impeach Bush and Cheney. Share Yours.
Anyone who had doubts that the American Government was hijacked by Cheney and Bush in 2000, now should have no doubts.

The revelations of the past few months have conclusively revealed that we are dealing with a rogue, runaway government. They feel that they own the United States governmental apparatus, that the rule of law does not apply to them, and that the Constitution is irrelevant.

If Congress continues to play it cautious with the White House, they will, in essence, be giving every American carte blanche permission to break the law, because the President and Vice President of the United States are role models for criminal behavior.

BuzzFlash is asking Readers to share their top ten reasons ala David Letterman style for Cheney and Bush being impeached here:
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/219

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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 02:01 AM
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1. I love it.
In normal, every day mind, impeachment would be a great solution. That is, if the rules were not all askew and the titular heads really represented anything like major change should they be removed. I mean, are we not staring at the amazing and all-powerful Oz-head and told not to look behind that curtain all the time?

So, if impeaching the tip of an iceberg will get rid of the whole Falwelldamn thing once and for all and let us live our lives as organic beings with reason and true purpose, then I say, do it pronto! If not, well, I would rather scrape chewing gum off my shoe and call that progress in transportation.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 02:20 AM
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2. The excuse that they should not impeach because they don't have the votes doesn't cut it
Either you stand for the Constitution or you don't

Congress failed us on the IWR, and the patriot act, both which were violations of law

Whether they have the votes or not, isn't the point. The point is do you stand for the rule of law or not, and there would be no abigiguity if impeachment was brought up, where each and every Congress person stood on this


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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 09:55 AM
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3. War cimes and abuse of signing statements (one example proves both) . .
Edited on Sun Jun-24-07 09:56 AM by pat_k
Just need one example to prove both: Violating McCain's anti-torture amendment and making the Unconstitutional and Un-American claim to the unitary authoritarian power to usurp the power of Congress by scribbling his "changes" on the bill.

Signing statements that re-write law are an abuse of power. It is quite simple. Open and shut. Grounded in our most treasured principle; the principle on which Our Constitution is founded.

The principle of consent.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 02:55 PM
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4. One posted on Buzzflash
Top 10 Reasons to Impeach Bush and Cheney
Submitted by Tenzing on Sun, 06/24/2007 - 1:56pm.

10. Misuse and Mistreatment of U. S. Military Personnel

9. Theocractic Tyranny

8. Lies, Lies, Lies

7. Theft of Two Elections

6. Outsourcing Terror (Blackwater, etc.)

5. Abu Graib/GITMO

4. Katrina

3. Destructive Environmental Policies & Practices

2. Patriot Act & Homeland "Security"

1. Invasion & Occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:19 AM
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10. And not one of those a high crime that can be an Impeachable offence. nt
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:20 PM
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12. Why not?
Edited on Mon Jun-25-07 01:25 PM by pat_k
We could impeach for stupidity. All that is required is the political will.

Impeachment is a POLITICAL process. It is Not a LEGAL/Judicial process.

If we had intended impeachment to be a legal process that met the standards of legal proof, we would have given the power to the courts. We did not. We gave it to Congress to ensure it was as direct an expression of our POLITICAL will possible in our Federal design. Unlike the laws passed by Congress, there is NO appeal on impeachment. No legalisms or "technicality" can trump our will as expressed by the men and women we elect to the U.S. Congress to represent us.

The definition of "impeachable" is 100% up to each Member of Congress to judge for themselves. They can look to authority. They can look into their own hearts. They can poll their constitutions. They are bound only by their oath to "support and defend."

The Hamdan ruling was a declaration that Bush and Cheney's arbitrary declarations that Gitmo was a Geneva-free zone constituted three years of War Crimes. There is no "unringing the bell" on War Crimes. Such crimes are subject to the penalty of death for a reason -- to motivate those with the power to commitment such crimes to steer clear of "the line." And "I thought the line was somewhere else" is not a defense.

Even if Bush and Cheney hadn't committed war crimes that have ALREADY been ajudicated by SCOTUS, the fact that 58% of Americans "Personally want GWB's presidency to be over" (Newsweek, January 27, 2007) is enough to impeach if the political will can be mustered to do so. (And if impeachment were "on the table" that number would undoubtedly jump at least 5 points overnight). A case could certainly be made that the betrayal of public trust reflected in such numbers is a "high crime" or "misdemeanour" against our Constitutional democracy.

There are FAR graver crimes, but the point is that there is no external, objective, binding authority that defines "impeachable."

Further discussion of what impeachment is, and is not, here:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/pat_k/20


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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:06 PM
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5. kick
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 12:20 AM
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6. Win $100 gift certificate for your top 10 list!
After I posted this, I found out Buzzflash is giving away $100 BuzzFlash Progressive Marketplace Certificate. Winner will be Announced on Friday, June 29.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 12:24 AM
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7. I can appreciate and respect
all of what is suggested but there is no way the Senate can get 60 plus members to vote for impeachment. First it has to come out of the House. The Dems do not need to go through this. The public will not go for this. In the same way the public tried to tell the repubs not to impeach Clinton. It was a hell of a lot of wasted time.....Unless there is some truly smoking gun and bush is found holding the gun then impeaching him would be futile...We just have to hope the Dems in Congress can lasso this monkeyinamanssuit in for the next 18 months.....
I do thank you...
Ben David
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:14 AM
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9. I know the realities
But we still should be continually let them know we want impeachment. Republicans are alreaady distancing themselves from Bush; you can't say they absolutely won't impeach him.

Nixon was impeached by Republicans, you know...
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 12:28 AM
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8. Great one! I'm glad they're dealing with this. EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE,
whether it's online or not, should be talking about this.

EVERYONE. Because it just simply has to be done. I don't care if it fails in the Senate, I just want it to GET TO the Senate. It'll be On The Record when that occurs, which will be part of the historical verdict bush seems to think is the only important verdict there is. And when it reaches that point, it will be on record for EVERY future usurper-wannabe and self-anointed power abuser - that they won't be able to get away with it, either. Otherwise, it WILL BE "we don't need no steeeenking laws!"
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:28 AM
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11. kick
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 10:18 PM
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13. kick
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 01:09 AM
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14. kick
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 01:50 PM
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16. kick... $100 gift certificate contest ends Friday
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