Nixon now looks like an alter boy in church compared to this miscarrage of administration

[greenbriar]

how much more are we going to let them take? They have demonstrated they will do what they want
cheney and cabalt have given us a big FU and every time we do NOTHING they take a little more



where is the outrage?
Where are people taking the streets

We need to barrage our congresspeople until they GET A FUCKING CLUE



bush, cheney et all NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE

when dean wrote his book in 2003 worse than watergate, we didn't even know half of what we do now...

nixon looks like a saint

[greenbriar]

1. how much longer until we citizens of america say NO MORE

NO FUCKING MORE

NOT NOW NOT EVER

TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY

[Raven]

2. Give me Nixon any day. I've been saying this for awhile now.

The problem now is that we have a bunch of gutless wonders in Congress. Somehow all this crap has become business as usual. I wonder if the people we have elected understand how wounded our republic is.

[rurallib]

3. Sadly, so have I. Nixon at least has a small amount of humanity in him

Although most of the problems and problem people we are plagued with now in some way were spawned by him.

[Raven]

4. I agree, the Republican Party is trying to "do Nixon" smarter and

it's not working (I hope!). The one difference I really see between Nixon and Bush is that Nixon had a brain in his head. The guy we have now is lazy and intellectually stupid...not necessarily IQ stupid but worse stupid.

[MADem]

5. Naaah, Nixon was pretty damned bad. He fired the Special Prosecutor.

Well, he told the AG to do it, and the AG refused. Then his assistant refused, too. They both quit. The guy who fired Archibald Cox was none other than......ROBERT BORK.

Everyone back in the day had "IMPEACH THE COX SACKER" bumper stickers. Nixon went out of his way to subvert the rule of law--the only difference was, back then, the GOP had a few morals.


We don't have gutless wonders in Congress. We have legislators who know how to COUNT. And when they count, they can't count all the way to a two-thirds override. If they could, we'd be overriding like mad.

Why people fail to understand this plain fact, I have no idea. A simple majority does not equate to a two-thirds majority.

You get a bill to the floor, you pass it, Monkey vetos it, and you have no votes to override. That bill is then, for all intents and purposes, DEAD. It takes an enormous effort to cycle it through to get it back to the floor. You need your override votes when the President isn't buying what you are sending him.

We've got gavels, we can investigate. The more we investigate, the sooner the votes from the reasonable wing of the GOP will come and stand with us.
Examples:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13934199/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18434984/

[greenbriar]

11. then they need to start doing more investigations

and those investigations MUST Have consequences

[Paladin]

18. I Agree With You

I get a kick out of these "Nixon vs. Dubya" polls that turn up here in DU---Nixon was half as conservative and ten times as smart. No contest.....

[yes2truth]

6. Nixon was not evil. He was removed in a "Silent Coup"

Read "Silent Coup", by Len Colodny and Robert Gettlin -- This is an historically important book that will change your perception of Nixon as it did mine. Of that, I am absolutely certain.

or just check out their web sites:


http://www.silentcoup.com/

http://www.watergate.com/

[MADem]

12. Oh please. Nixon was a BASTARD. He wiped his ass on the Constitution.

His wife told him to burn those tapes. He should have listened to her, but I for one am glad he didn't.

Otherwise, we'd never get to hear the musings of tricky Dick and the saintly Billy Graham on how the "knickers and Jews" cause so much trouble and control everything....

:eyes:

[yes2truth]

14. Wouldn't it be better to learn the facts before...

making up your mind? You obviously don't know much about Nixon, else you wouldn't have had to resort to
the cheap shot of calling him a bastard.

It is much easier to be critical than it is to be correct.

[MADem]

21. Oh please. I lived the facts. I didn't miss a minute of those hearings.

It wasn't history to me, it was current fucking events.

I take the testimony of John Dean at his word. I take the tapes, which even you can LISTEN to online, at their face value.

You can't rehabilitate Nixon. Not with conspiracy theories or convoluted tales of nefarious deeds, or anything else. Shop that crap elsewhere, because I'm not buying your bullshit. Your screen name belies your goals, apparently.

[lpbk2713]

7. Milhouse may have had a sense of remorse or maybe even a conscience.

I believe he knew he had been caught with his hands in the cookie jar and may have even felt a sense of guilt.

But the BushCo regime is way beyond that. I don't believe there is anyone at all in that band of thieves and liars who has anything close to a conscience.

[greenbriar]

8. exactly

this group of criminals keep taking and taking


the more they do, the less Dems say and the admin just keep taking more and doing more criminal acts and NO ONE IS DOING A DAMN THING

[Initech]

9. I wonder how much more crap these people will get away with before enough is enough?

[greenbriar]

10. thats what I am saying

they do something...wait for the fall out of which there is NONE

do something a little worse wait for the fall out NONE


keep going

[Canuckistanian]

13. I made that comment earlier

Nixon's transgressions were petty crimes compared to this lot.

They've taken malfeasance to new heights, unheard of even in a young Nixon staffer's imagination.

[EndElectoral]

15. As soon as they said impeachment was off the trouble i knew we were in trouble

[greenbriar]

16. its almost a game now. They do worse and worse things

congress just looks the other way


they could shoot a man in the face and get away with it...oh they already did that

they could take over and shit on the constitution...opps did that too



they keep thumbing their nose at us and nothing is done about it

[indepat]

17. The Nixon gang rat-fucked; now the neocon rats are fucking we the people, this nation, its

Constitution, its institutions.

[ForrestGump]

19. To my mind, Nixon was dangerous because he essentially sought to

create an imperial presidency. His downfall was a direct result of his own personal failings. I'm hardly an authority on the man or his administration, but it seems pretty unequivocal that the current junta's antics are orders of magnitude worse and more destructive than Nixon could ever have dreamed of...they have an imperial presidency and they don't even bother to hide it (further, quite obviously, the nature of the American People these days is such that they don't even have to try to hide their crimes and their evil.

Nixon was in some ways a great statesman -- he did a lot of good with foreign policy (yes, American involvement in Vietnam got worse before it got better under his direction, and yes he attacked Cambodia, a move that I think would be done without blinking today if an enemy's supply lines and logistics bases were outside their national border) and a lot of legislation that came out of his administration was very good, most notably (to my biased mind) environmental legislation. Republican or not, paranoid ex-col-warrior or not, today he'd be seen as a lefty by not just the Republicans but probably by a good many Democrats. And, more to the point, for all his evils and his failings, he was nowhere even near the league of today's crooks and their brain-dead sockpuppets.

I'm not one of those pesky Nixon revisionists...I've always thought he was a very dangerous President who was probably not a good person in many ways but whose presidency accomplished some important and beneficial things. The people who installed and who prop up Governor George W.Bush in the Oval Office are outright villains who have done absolutely nothing but harm to this country and to the world. If the last few years were condensed into a James-Bond-style movie, more Americans would undoubtedly see them as the bad guys they are.

[yes2truth]

20. It's not revisionist to use previously unknown facts...

to gain a more sophisticated, nuanced understanding and comprehension of how it came to be that Nixon was in fact removed from office as the result of a silent coup.

[MADem]

23. Just because something is written down doesn't make it a "fact"

FACT: The sky is green, the grass is orange.

Sorry, doesn't work like that...

:eyes:

[MADem]

22. The people who are pulling this shit under BushCo were schooled under Tricky Dick

They're going after another bite of the apple, as it were.

And you are right--Nixon was VERY dangerous. The fucker only expressed remorse after he got caught. And that was well after he roamed the halls of the WH drunk and wailing, begging Henry K. to get down on his knees and pray!

If Tricky had not been caught, he would have been every bit as much of an evil bastard as Cheney is today--and Cheney learned from Dick's mistakes, you can be sure of that.