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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:45 PM
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Newsweek, Number of Americans who believe Saddam-9/11 tie rises to 41 percent
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Poll_41_of_Americans_believe_Saddam_0624.html

No surprise here, newsweek , and much of the MSM helped propagate that lie.

Thanks to the communication act of 1996, the limited number of radio frequencies along with media mergers, allowed unchallenged falsehoods to be spread throughout the country with very little opposite point of view


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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:48 PM
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1. Yep, Al Qaeda has been in control over there
and that's who we've been fighting everyday...
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:51 PM
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3. Incidently, the Shia we control the country, are mortal enemies with AQ
so justifying our remaining in Iraq for that reason is another distortion.

Of course, I wouldn't put it past our friends in Saudi Arabia to finance AQ in Iraq to protect their interests against the ruling Shia in Iraq, and also Iran


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Independent Democrat Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:49 PM
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2. That same 41%......
probably couldn't find Iraq on a map.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:53 PM
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4. Yup, they didn't even know where Saudi Arabia was on a map
the bush policy of no child left behind has now become, no adult left behind


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Independent Democrat Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:53 PM
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6. Or Russia.......nt
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:53 PM
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5. How the heck can it rise?!
I used to know that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, but now I'm not so sure...

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Independent Democrat Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:54 PM
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7. Probably because 90% of polls are bullsh!t?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 12:05 AM
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11. That's what 4 out of 5 doctors say.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 12:07 AM
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12. so I guess the poll that says over 60% of Americans think Iraq is a mistake is wrong also? /nt
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 12:11 AM
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13. It's Newsweek's poll
no need to get defensive. I wasn't even questioning the methodology - just the stupidity of those polled.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 09:50 AM
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23. I wasn't getting defensive, just being scarcastic, really nothing more /nt
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:55 PM
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8. I don't know the specifics about the poll, but I do know that 90% of radio talk is right wing
and they spew this garbage on the airwave every day

If a lie is repeated long enough, and is unchallenged, it becomes the truth


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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:57 PM
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9. There comes a point when stupidity trumps ignorance
For crap's sake, Bush** himself has said several different ways that Saddam was not responsible for 9/11. Just last September he said it again (though admittedly while still insisting that Saddam had been a threat, despite providing any logical reason to believe that).

Anyone who believes Iraq had ANY ties to 9/11 at this point is just willfully stupid.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 12:03 AM
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10. Yes, but when you have the limbaughs, hannitys, and others spreading falsehoods on the radio
seven days a week, unchallenged, what else should we expect?

Obviously, critical thinking is lacking

What was the main news today, about the killing of a pregnant white woman. Reporting it sure, but constant coverage, like all the other missing white girls says exactly what our country has become, tabloid entertainment

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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 12:25 AM
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14. I'm just not buying that excuse anymore
My stepmother is in her 70s. She refuses to use the internet and only has the newspapers and tv and friends to tell her what's going on. Yet she knows almost as much as I do about this criminal cabal and what they've been up to, and has been ranting with me about them for at least three years.

How?

She tells me she gets most of her information from the papers, with backup coming from people like me who have internet access.

Now I'm not letting the corporate media off the hook, not by a longshot. The only things my stepmom has over most Americans is she's an avid reader and keenly interested in politics.

I think the problem is most Americans aren't interested in politics and only pick up the vaguest soundbytes and run with them. The corporate media is partly responsible for that, but responsibility lies with the audience too. My stepmom proves it's simple to be well informed, despite the failures of the corporate media. You just have to want to know what's really going on.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:10 AM
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18. I agree with you...
The people who sit down and actually read a newspaper or news magazine are far more informed that people who graze through cable news as their only source...

People change channels as quickly as the finger can tap instructions on the remote...

They graze until something pretty captures their eye...

Me see Paris Hilton...

Must stop see why...

Bush say we fight al qaeda in Iraq...

Must be true...

WolfAChannity say so...
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 12:35 AM
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15. And you see why the U.S. populace elected
this sorry excuse of a man. Every news media outlet was writing and saying that bush did not need to be the smartest man in the room.... he was so well liked and folks would want to sit down and have a beer with him. One of the regular folk.....BS!!!
We got this silly ass because folks bought into the right wing talk about Gore and then again about Kerry. Neither one of them fought hard enough for the presidency and some in this forum want Gore to run again. Come on folks. If Gore did not fight the first time what the hell makes you believe he will this go round. He might half way through 08 say he is not interested and there you go...
What we need is a damn fighter. One that will not take anything off the right wing. One that stands up for what they believe to be the best course for the U.S. Only one that I know of is HRC...She is the most investigated person in the U.S. and the right wing has nothing they can come at her with like they did Gore and Kerry....
Just like many in this forum have bought into the right wing saying that HRC cannot win....You bet your asses she can and she will with or without those of you so against her.....
I do thank you
Ben David
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:04 AM
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16. Good post.
Go Hillary
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:36 AM
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22. Hillary a "fighter"...?????
:rofl:

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:10 AM
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17. at least it's down from 70% when we started this fucking war

(i see some people have been listening to ANGLER again <--- sing songy voice)

go ahead. ask me who angler is.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:17 AM
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19. Want to see something else that'll make your eyes bug out?
The poll is online:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19375611/site/newsweek

Correct answers are bolded. Check out question #5.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:30 AM
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20. That struck me too, but...
it's kind of a trick question. In reality there is no "fight against al-Qaeda or radical Islamic terrorism."

We're just occupying a country illegally, stealing its resources, and using it as a pretext to drain the US treasury into the pockets of bush and his cronies.

Iraq's citizens are trying to drive us out just as we would do ourselves if we were in the same situation.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:47 AM
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21. More dumbassery than trickery
Every other question measures public knowledge against verifiable information. Except that one. I'd like to know what metrics they're using to make an assertion of fact that we're "winning" the war on whatever.

Also notice, the "correct" answer to question #27 is Jane Austin. Idiots.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 09:56 AM
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24. And notice that the correct answer for #6 isn't highlighted
Great job combatting ignorance, Newsweek.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 10:03 AM
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26. Shit! That's fucked. Thanks for the catch- it was a good one. n/t
PB
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 09:57 AM
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25. Stunning
Reporter: What did Iraq have to do with 9/11?
GWB: Nothing!

Even their Great Leader has said, testily, that Iraq was not involved.

How 41% could believe this is astounding.
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