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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:45 AM
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Those 2 missing G.I.'s sure dropped off the media radar.
I wonder why? In the old days a story like this would be covered extensively. I know they found one unfortunate soldier, dead and showing signs of torture, and I know last week they found the two missing men's I.D.'s.

One can often get a hint of what's going on in the media by what they are NOT covering.

I suspect that this story makes our 'leaders' uncomfortable.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:58 AM
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1. Was wondering what was going on with this story the other day.
Like you said the last we heard was the ID Tags were found & that has been the end of it as far as what I have heard on it. We know it is not going to be anything good, maybe nothing else to report but usually, there will be some sort of a comment about the ongoing search.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:19 AM
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2. I've had the same thought for quite a while
the intensive search no doubt got called off - as it probably should have been, given it was putting more guys at risk and distracting from the "mission" - whatever that is. But I saw NO announcement, or even grudging acknowledgment of that. The highly touted 'leave no one behind' just sort of faded away.

More bs, with media complicity. And dammit, this is a fact the public could deal with.

I think it is 99.9999% likely they were killed, probably soon after capture. Probably dumped in the river same time as the one who was found, but just didn't turn up. Probably washed all the way downriver and out to sea.

This is a small thing, perhaps, compared to all the deceit, coverup, and lies, but it is representative of the entire administration's contempt for the people, contempt for the truth, and flat-out ownership of the media.
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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:45 AM
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3. Bad for recruiting
tortured and beat to death is something the recruiter never mentions
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:53 AM
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4. same with Keith Maupin
must be one of those "ongoing investigations" that can't be discussed. :sarcasm:
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:54 AM
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5. in military parlance- DUSTWUN, in media parlance- bad for warmongering
Edited on Mon Jun-25-07 07:58 AM by genie_weenie
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pwb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:57 AM
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6. dupe
Edited on Mon Jun-25-07 07:57 AM by pwb
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 08:02 AM
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7. It hasn't dropped off the radar in my area
One of the missing soldiers is from a town about 10 miles to the north of where I live. So the story is still very much in the news around here.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 09:16 AM
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8. People feel it, though the media could care less.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 09:19 AM
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9. Parents have a hard time getting their kids to enlist with stories like this out there
Edited on Mon Jun-25-07 09:57 AM by NNN0LHI
I know my parents didn't have much luck with me. And they even tried driving me to the recruiter. I had a pretty good idea what the Vietnamese people would do to me if I were to be captured.

I said no way. Go enlist your own damn self I told them.

Don
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 09:22 AM
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10. It probably isn't helping that we're trying to deport one of these soldier's wifes
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 09:25 AM
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11. That does seem to be the reason they no longer want to discuss the missing men
Trying to toss the wife of one of them out of the country whiles he's MIA seems a little harsh, at least until they confirm he's dead.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 09:27 AM
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12. "at least until they confirm he's dead." - So even that wouldn't justify her STAYING here?
I would say it's a "little harsh" to deport someone whose husband gave his life in service to the country PERIOD.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 11:27 AM
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13. what, no Paris subthread? Allow me.
Phil-0 is right. The MSM does not want bad news, unrelated to sweet young things (pregnant ones doubles down) or rich bimbettes. Apparently our missing GIs are unimportant. and Torture, well, you go with the conventions we trashed, not the conventions we once honored.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 11:57 AM
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14. Because we are trying to deport one of their wives maybe?
or Im sure taht has nothing to do with why we stopped the 24 hour freakout, but sure as shit one of their wives is facing deportation cause or shit gov coulnt process her green card papers she put in 4 years ago. Small gov my fucking ass.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 12:18 PM
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15. They are most likely dead.
On the other hand we lost an additional 14 or so rousting the neighborhoods making a show of getting them back, and killed an unreported number of Iraqis as well.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:09 PM
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16. You Can't Report What You Don't Know
While there's lots of evidence that says these men are long since dead, the problems in reporting in the "fog of war" is how difficult reliable information is to come by.

My bets are the only source for information is the military and they're keeping real mum. The PR value of their disappearance is not of much value right now...or that there's some negotiating going on...a faint hope of a good sign. I'll try to think optimistic.

I'm still trying to get information on a missing soldier from Northwest Indiana who vanished nearly 2 years ago...I tried to find out if he had been found, but the trail on that story went cold quite a while ago.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 01:24 PM
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17. Because they're dead, and they're probably never going to find the bodies.
Iraq is a big place, and if you make an effort to get rid of a body or render it unrecognizible, it's not like somebody is going to be able to find and easily ID it.
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blayne Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:51 PM
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18. I was thinking the same thing.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:14 AM
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19. found another pic while updating website...
Pvt. Byron W. Fouty, 19, is seen in Quarghuli village near Youssifiyah, south of Baghdad. Fouty has been missing since May.
(Sgt Michael Morse / Associated Press)




Spc. Alex R. Jimenez, 25, of Lawrence, Mass
Al Taqa, Iraq
Whereabouts Unknown

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