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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:23 PM
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Articulate Teen Riles Up O'Reilly
:rofl:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2007/06/pinhead-16yearold-schools-oreilly.php

Bill O'Reilly is in his element when it comes to badgering the children of 9/11 victims, accusing kidnapping victims of enjoying their captivity, and anything involving loofahs or falafels. But put him in front of an affable and articulate 16-year-old, and he turns to mush.

Last week, O'Reilly imploded during an interview with Jesse Lange, a rising junior at Boulder High School in Colorado (video above). He was on the program to address O'Reilly's criticism of the Boulder High sex-education program. Lange tells Radar that he knew he was brought on for an opposing view, but his main concern before the show was how to address O'Reilly. "I wasn't sure whether or not I should call him Bill or Mr. O'Reilly," Lange tells Radar. "In the end, I decided to call him Bill, because if I called him Mr. O'Reilly, it would imply that I viewed him as some sort of expert or authority figure." Lange also says that in a brief pre-show interview, O'Reilly asked him not to quote the incendiary parts from The O'Reilly Factor For Kids. "Bill expressly asked me not to talk about it on the air," he says, but the book was the perfect counterpoint to O'Reilly's thinly constructed premise.

When Lange did quote from the book, the hotheaded host got so defensive that he labeled Lange a "pinhead" and cut him off when he tried to read the kiddie propaganda book's inflammatory passages. (Fox even took it upon themselves to remove O'Reilly's "pinhead" remark from subsequent airings of the segment.)

As for what it's like being the kid who put a hurting on Bill O'Reilly, Lange says he is getting "a couple hundred Facebook requests a day" and letters from college professors, "just asking me to consider their schools when I apply to college." (He's also single, ladies.) As for any fallout with O'Reilly, Lange says Bill isn't so tough when he's not on the air, "He didn't say anything to me when the segment ended ... he just had his producers cut off my feed."

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:26 PM
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1. Billo's a cardboard cut-out
And he expects nothing more from his guests. Hit your mark, say your line, then get out of the way for Billo's special brand of genius. Don't throw his own words back in his monkey face, don't insist on facts that contradict his opinion, and shut up when he starts talking. Billo likes his adversaries to be as inanimate as possible, because hitting a live, moving target is out of his skill set.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:30 PM
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2. Bill Oreilly never calls people names. Oh by the way; Pinhead doesn't count!
:D

LOL I almost felt sorry for O'Rielly. That kid did to his book quote exactly what O'Lielly is attempting to do to the school!

You know that stung. Being schooled by a student. :D
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:39 PM
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6. At least he doesn't mix up his insults like he does the objects of his sexual fantasies...
Oh God, I just put that together in the same sentence. :puke:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:40 PM
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7. Can you sum up the quote for me?
I can't watch video here at work...

Thanks
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:44 PM
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9. Orielly was taking a quote out of context.
Orielly was taking a quote out of context to make the school look like they were giving the students a pro-drug and pro-sex message.

So the kid gets out O'rielly's book for kids, and takes an Orielly quote out of context to make it sound like it was a pro-marijuana message. It was classic shit! Watch it when you get home, it's worth it.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:20 PM
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12. Thanks!
It was pretty good - I wish more people would get O'Reilly like that.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:30 PM
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3. If a 16 year old can do it,
then every guest can as well. I think the Bill-O show is becoming a cartoon. Let's hope that soon anyone who listens to him is laughing at him.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:00 AM
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31. O'Reilly's whole schtick is an act, as he admitted on Colbert.
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 01:01 AM by NYC Liberal
The yelling and screaming and cutting the mikes...it's all for ratings. Does Billo actually believe the nonsense he spouts? Maybe. But the whole demeanor is fake.

Like what he said on Colbert:

"I'm effete. I'm not a tough guy. This is all an act."

'Course I'm sure he really is that pompous and egotistical...so he deserves to be knocked down a few notches whenever someone can!
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:37 PM
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4. The You Tube posting of the segment
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:38 PM
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5. thanks, FM
:hi:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:34 PM
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11. LOL"I have read it Bill"
Page 67
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:32 PM
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16. that's a bright, talented kid
somebody should snatch him up for summer campaign staff - you hear that Sen. Edwards?
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:54 PM
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19. and press release from Jesse Lange regarding Bill's hypocrisy
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:24 PM
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39. When he called him "pinhead" he had completely lost it.
Nice to see him shaken up, as much as pretends not to be. :thumbsup:

That kid has a lot of poise. Very impressive.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:40 PM
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8. "...Bill isn't so tough when he's not on the air"
If he was, he woudl have to pretend so much when he is on the air.
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greenissexy Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:29 PM
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10. Like most guys his size...
He's a bully. They grow-up thinking the world works like the playground and that they can push around people like they did when they were younger. Even if they're normally a normal person, they often revert back to their bully roots. Just because you're 6'4" doesn't give you the right to physically intimdate others. The other teachers he taught high school with was very interesting when she talked about how he used his size. On the other hand you take someone like Kucinich who is five inches shorter than me, and he shows the character and patience from being abused by larger people. The simple fact that the taller politician usually wins is one reason this country is so screwed-up. O'Reilly that has a nationwide state every night versus Kucinich who has to fight for every minute of coverage is the epitome of why we have so many bullies in charge.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:26 AM
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33. I don't think Billo's size has a thing to do with his assholery.
Funny, most of the hypersensitive assholes I know tend to be shorter guys - ever heard of the Napoleon complex?

And about your bizarre theory about the taller politician winning/being an asshole: Bush is 5'11. Kerry is 6'4. I rest my case.
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greenissexy Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:53 AM
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34. How is it bizarre if it is true?
Or are you just trolling again to annoy people here? I haven't been here that long, but I'm already tired of the crap you post just to get comments. That is the very definition of trolling.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:19 PM
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40. Oh snap - I just got put in my place by a newbie!
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 03:20 PM by WildEyedLiberal
:eyes:

Projection is a sad, sad thing, little fella.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:33 PM
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38. Only Kerry won. The vote tampering, vote stealing,
Vote list purging Repukes did get Bush a second term - but believe me, Kerry won.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:21 PM
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41. Hey, I'll grant you that
But that being the case, the comment I replied to is still fucking insane.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:42 PM
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42. Always remember - insanity is allowed
I mean who is to say!?!

I'll allow you your judgements about who is insane if you allow me mine

And when people's beliefs drive me crazy - I remind myself that I didn't have far to drive!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:01 PM
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46. Haha, true
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 04:01 PM by WildEyedLiberal
:thumbsup:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:26 PM
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13. that's so cute!
he sounds like a bright young man. what is this book he read from? why is o'really pissed off by passages from his own book?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:30 PM
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15. It was "The O'Reilly Factor for Kids"
or something like that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:29 PM
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14. We knew it~ billo can't
handle the heat! Freakin' Wuss.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:35 PM
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17. I was REALLY confused for a minute there when I kept seeing Radar O'Reilly
:P :silly:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:39 PM
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18. Um... Cat... Did You... Um... Read The Replies ???
Some poster named dbeesh says:

Gee, I saw that interview and Jesse (I won't say Mr. Lange because that means he deserves my respect) looked like an incompetent moron, defending the sex and drug education presenters who said condoms are unnecessary and drugs can be fun. Jesse need to get a haircut and come out of the 1990s with those glasses. He looked like a cross between Dee Snider of Twisted Sister and a pre-pubescent Howard Stern. The cartoon buzzards on Bugs Bunny comes to mind too. I thought O’Reilly wiped the floor with him but still gave him credit for trying.
Posted by: dbeesh | June 25, 2007 03:46 PM


To which someone named supergranny says:

dbeesh darling, time for a panty shields change. your heidi-ho whore stink hole smells like a dumpster behind a miami beach seafood restaurant, but that doesn't mean i don't love you. its just that my dog is so tired of having to wear lipstick and the blond wig when you come over to walk him.
Posted by: supergranny | June 25, 2007 04:34 PM


:wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I... I... I... I'm speechless!

:hi:

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:32 AM
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28. I want to party with supergranny!!!! I'm still ROFLing at that one
haeaghhhagghghghghaaaghghghghghhhhhh
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:59 PM
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44. rofl!!!
go Supergranny, Go!!!

:rofl:

:hi:
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:03 PM
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47. HFS!! LMAO!!!
:rofl: :applause: :headbang: :thumbsup:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:56 PM
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20. Was the program's attendance mandatory ? If not, what's the dustup in the first place ? nt
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 08:01 PM
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21. And this kid will be on KO in five, four, three...
(I'd say by the end of the week. What say you?)
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 08:08 PM
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22. I'd like 2 minutes in a ring with Billo
He needs a thumping physically as well as mentally.

Have I told you today how much I hate Billo?
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 08:36 PM
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23. You wouldn't get within three feet of him
...before he melted into a gooey pile of blubbering pink panties. At that point, you'd abandon your formerly overwhelming urge to cockpunch him, shake your head, and go home.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 08:44 PM
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24. I've been on that show
and let me tell you, I know what it takes to get in Billo's face.. the odds are against you from the start.

I was let into the green room, having not been offered a THING to drink, when I asked for some water, they pointed at the soda machine in the hallway. I ended up drinking from the faucet in the sink, and it looked like they'd killed a baby in it. The couch looked like a bunch of monkeys had had an orgy on it, stained, couldn't even sit on it.

They led me out to the slaughter room, sat me in a chair. The room was DARK, full of shiney wrapped pipes, and those super graphics they put behind you to make it look like you are in a city, like LA (I was in LA at the time). All the camera stuff is wrapped in foil, and surrounds you. I was told, after they stuck the earpiece in my ear, to TALK TO A BIG WOODEN BOX. No Monitor, I couldn't see O'Reilly, OR Myself, only an insane voice ranting in my ear. I felt like it was a CIA interragation, or that I'd been kidnapped by aliens.

They checked to see if I was receiving, I had a little knob to turn him up or down, and BOOM I was on the air. Like I said, I felt like I was disconnected from everything, so it's difficult to go on the attack, no table to rest notes on, and you don't know if they'll show on the tube if you look at them.

SO they have you at the disadvantage from the get go, and it doesn't stop.

The next day, he had a poor kid who'd lost his dad on 911, and O'Reilly was saying shit about the guy's mother, threatened to, or actually DID turn off his microphone. I wish he'd had had me on sitting across a table from him, because it would have been my pleasure to reach across and get a hold of his necktie, and BUTTER IT. A neck tie is a handy item in a conflagration, you pretty much have total control :)

So MY HAT'S OFF to this BRAVE YOUNG MAN! I know more than the average person what he went through WHILE doing the thing he did.

BRAVO, DUDE! We need 10,000 more JUST LIKE YOU!

THIS YOUNG MAN IS A LEADER, keep an eye on him, I have a feeling we'll be hearing MORE from him. Maybe Prez someday :)
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:24 AM
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26. Thanks for the story, Symbolman.
Just goes to show what a coward O'Really really is!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:27 AM
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27. It really does
I noticed that he started cutting mikes not long after that.. when I was on the Scarborough show HE threatened to shut off my mike, nothing like a guy from Takebackthemedia.com being CENSORED on Live TV, eh? :)

One thing I'd REALLY like to do is go back on that show and laugh all about how SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS has more viewers than any of these guys, well, that and pull a big drippy Falafel out of my pocket and eat it in front of O'Reilly :)
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:36 AM
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29. Too funny ...
:rofl:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:19 AM
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36. Icky is all I have to say about that nasty sounding place. Icky.
and the slimeball skankO is right there with the place. :toast:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:00 PM
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45. I remember watching you on his show
you dirty hippy, you :)

:hi:
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 06:10 PM
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50. I almost had him there
then he pulled out the NPR button, and I flustered, should have been an easy shoutdown.. my first time on TV so I don't feel too bad. :)

I actually got nearly 2000 emails that day, 50/50 mix, love/hate.. but some people said they stood up and Cheered in their living rooms when I made a good point, that felt GOOD.. it's addictive :)

The hair's still long, and O'Reilly is STILL Stupid :)

Thanks for watching, I'll be here all week, heh, rimshot.. let's put the praise back where it belongs, that KID DESTROYED the Bad Clown!!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 08:50 PM
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25. LOL Now That Is Too Friggin Funny!
Doesn't get much worse than that. :rofl:

Seriously, could you imagine K.O. getting owned like that by a 16 yr old?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:43 AM
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30. .
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:19 AM
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32. Boy, O'Reilly can dish it out, but he cant take it, can he?
What a douchebag. :rofl:
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:05 AM
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35. the biggest thing that annoys me about O'Reilly
He has that "authoritative voice of authority" thing down. If you don't fact-check a thing he says, he comes across sounding like he knows what he's talking about. It's like the "southern preacher" thing, if you get that act down, religious people feel like they're obligated to listen. It's impossible to reach members of his audience when they rebut everything you say with "But he seems so authoritative, like he really knows what he's talking about!"

On the backyard fighter circuit (as seen on Youtube) there's this scary black guy called Kimbo or Kimba something. He's big, he's bulked out, and I guarantee that one of his fists would put the lights out of any of us here. But he's not invincible. Skilled fighters can take him down. Most of his fights are with average joes who simply cannot stand up to getting mule-kicked in the head repeatedly. But when he fights someone who knows what he's doing, his handlers go berserk and interfere with the fight like they were on WWF. Any cheap shot Kimba might make is overlooked while they call out his opponent for moves that are legal given that the fight is bare-knuckles. So long as they can control the conditions this guy fights in, he will always come out on top. The same goes for O'Reilly. What's more, O'Reilly's people can edit the tapes before they air. So long as they can avoid appearances of discontinuity in the interview, they can do whatever the hell they want.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:25 AM
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37. LMFAO, "you aren't allowed to use any evidence that exposes my lies"
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:56 PM
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43. I have a young lady friend for Jesse
My husband's boss is Australian. His fifteen-year-old is visiting right now from Down Under. She's lovely, she's funny, and after hearing me say that I had no love lost for the occupant of the White House, I got a mischievous grin and a, "George Bush is a real shit, isn't he?"

Her dad scolded her a bit. I said, "Three-fourths of the country agrees with you, sweetie."

Julie
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VotingVet Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:31 PM
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48. This kid is impressive and he scared the big guy
When a person of stature like his Billness stoops to calling a teenager a pinhead, you know the kid is on to something. Jesse is articulate, intelligent, and honest. Billy Babe is none of these. He became nervous when Jesse refused to be intimidated, and became angry when the kid (I use the term totally respectfully) out-foxed him by quoting what the Big Dullard had, himself written.

O'Reilly is a fool and a charlatan. Thank you Mr. Lange for showing him up on his own show.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:38 PM
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49. The kid should NOT have let O'Reilly interrupt him!
That video was great!
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