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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 09:28 PM
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As John, Clarence, Nino, Sammy and Tony assault free speech, consider Congress' power
Monday, June 25, 2007

Free Speech

by digby

So the Supremes took a strong stand for the First Amendment today and stood up for the right of little guy corporations, aggrieved rich guys and voiceless conservative special interests to influence elections with misleading advertising. The first amendment is sacred and shouldn't be tampered with for any reason. God bless America.

Well, not exactly. The words "bong hits for Jesus" aren't covered because they could be construed as promoting something that some people think is bad. (At least if you are under eighteen years old.) I'm awfully impressed with the intellectual consistency of the Roberts Court so far, how about you?

I think we need to start thinking about how to deal with the new era of wingnut judicial activism. If anyone actually thought the Warren Court was activist for trying to right long standing social inequality, they haven't seen anything until they see what John, Clarence, Nino, Sammy and Tony do to expand the rights of rich people and corporations while turning back the clock on everything else. It's going to be a generational battle. I hope everyone realizes this.

I will never forgive Joe Lieberman, Huckelberry, St John and the the rest of the milquetoast losers of that gang of 14. This is on their heads.


1801-1850

November 30, 1804

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Senate_Tries_Justice.htm">Senate Tries Supreme Court Justice

Samuel Chase

On November 30, 1804, for the third time in its brief history, the Senate began an impeachment trial. The first trial in 1798 and 1799 had involved a senator previously expelled on grounds of treason. Because that senator no longer served, the Senate dismissed the case citing lack of jurisdiction. The second trial, in 1804, removed a federal judge for reasons of drunkenness and probable insanity. More than the first two proceedings, however, third trial challenged the Senate to explore the meaning of impeachable crimes.

Samuel Chase had served on the Supreme Court since 1796. A staunch Federalist and a volcanic personality, Chase showed no willingness to tone down his bitter partisan rhetoric after Jeffersonian Republicans gained control of Congress in 1801. Representative John Randolph of Virginia orchestrated impeachment proceedings against Chase, declaring he would wipe the floor with the obnoxious justice. The House accused Chase of refusing to dismiss biased jurors and of excluding or limiting defense witnesses in two politically sensitive cases. Its trial managers hoped to prove that Chase had "behaved in an arbitrary, oppressive, and unjust way by announcing his legal interpretation on the law of treason before defense counsel had been heard." Highlighting the political nature of this case, the final article of impeachment accused the justice of continually promoting his political agenda on the bench, thereby "tending to prostitute the high judicial character with which he was invested, to the low purpose of an electioneering partizan."

At the time the Senate took up the case against the Federalist justice, its members included twenty-five Jeffersonian Republicans and nine Federalists. Chase appeared before the Senate on January 4, 1805, to declare that he was being tried for his political convictions rather than for any real crime or misdemeanor. His defense team, which included several of the nation's most eminent attorneys, convinced several wavering senators that Chase's conduct did not warrant his removal from office. With at least six Jeffersonian Republicans joining the nine Federalists who voted not guilty on each article, the Senate on March 1, 1805, acquitted Samuel Chase on all counts. A majority voted guilty on three of the eight articles, but on each article the vote fell far short of the two-thirds required for conviction. The Senate thereby effectively insulated the judiciary from further congressional attacks based on disapproval of judges’ opinions. Chase resumed his duties at the bench, where he remained until his death in 1811.


The Senate's Impeachment Role

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Definition of Offenses

Another question, the one debated most hotly by members of Congress, defense attorneys, and legal scholars from the first impeachment trial to the most recent trial of President William Clinton, concerns the issue of what exactly is an impeachable offense. The task of definition left to future legislators by the framers has proved perplexing. Treason and bribery, the two constitutionally designated impeachable crimes, were clear cut. But what were "high crimes and misdemeanors?" Were misdemeanors lesser crimes, or merely misconducts? Did a high crime or misdemeanor have to be a violation of written law? Over the years, "high crimes and misdemeanors" have been anything the prosecutors have wanted them to be. In an unsuccessful attempt to impeach Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas in 1960, Representative Gerald Ford declared: "An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history." The phrase is the subject of continuing debate, pitting broad constructionists, who view impeachment as a political weapon, against narrow constructionists, who regard impeachment as being limited to offenses indictable at common law.

Narrow constructionists won a major victory when Supreme Court Justice Samuel Chase was acquitted in 1805, using as his defense the argument that the charges against him were not based on any indictable offense. President Andrew Johnson won acquittal with a similar defense in 1868. But the first two convictions in the twentieth century, those of Judge Robert Archbald in 1913 and Judge Halsted Ritter in 1936, neither of whom had committed indictable offenses, made it clear that the broad constructionists still carried considerable weight. The debate continued during the 1974 investigation into the conduct of President Nixon, with the staff of the House Judiciary Committee arguing for a broad view of "high crimes and misdemeanors" while Nixon's defense attorneys understandably argued for a narrow view.

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It's never been done, but there is always a first time.

The Bush Court Marches On

ABA's 2006 conclusion about Bush's use of signing statements, and Sam Alito's role in creating them


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 10:21 PM
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1. Kick! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:38 AM
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2. Kick! n/t
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democraticinsurgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:54 AM
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3. Money Talks and BS walks
that seems to be the new First Amendment interpretation by this gang of 5. Money can buy all the free speech you want on the "public" airwaves, but don't you dare walk around with a hand drawn sign that someone might be offended by. Especially if you insult Christianity in any way. Or advocate the smoking of a native plant.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:21 PM
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4. Too many nuts, including Cheney
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:09 PM
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5. At least satan's chambermaid has free speech

Ann Coulter wishes John Edwards were assassinated

If you or I said this, we'd be arrested. And we certainly wouldn't be given TV time on ABC, NBC or any other show than FOX. Why did NBC let her on the show after this? Why would anyone? This woman is the biggest book seller, biggest TV personality, and biggest public speaker of the Republican party. She represents everything that has gone wrong with that party, and the reason why so many of us have left it.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:14 AM
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6. Take down Scalia when Cheney goes down.
Scalia won't recuse himself from Cheney case

From Bill Mears
CNN Washington Bureau
Thursday, May 6, 2004 Posted: 11:35 AM EDT (1535 GMT)


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia refused Thursday to recuse himself from an upcoming case involving Vice President Dick Cheney, with whom he recently hunted and dined.

"I do not believe my impartiality can reasonably be questioned," Scalia said in a 21-page memorandum, rejecting suggestions of an appearance of a conflict of interest.


http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/18/scalia.recusal/

IMPEACH!!
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:27 AM
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7. Alito, more than any of these radicals, scares the CRAP out of me.
I have no doubt how he will vote if issues involving executive privilege or powers of the executive branch come before the Supreme Court. For all Bush's talk about "activist judges" he has appointed two of the worst to the Supreme Court.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:32 AM
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8. I have a small disagreement with Mr. Digby .........
His last quoted line in the first box reads "I will never forgive Joe Lieberman, Huckelberry, St John and the the rest of the milquetoast losers of that gang of 14. This is on their heads."

It actually isn't. It should never have gotten to that. Imagine if Gore was given the presidency he won. Imagine if St. Ralph stayed the fuck out of Florida, like he said he would. For St. Ralph's acolytes ... that was 90 **thousand** votes. Not a few hundred.

As for the Gang of 14 .... distasteful as they are ..... it should never have come to that.
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