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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:03 AM
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Do you go to church to pray or to look at boobs?
Plunging necklines a no-no at masses
Mon Jun 25, 9:43 AM ET

MANILA (Reuters) - The Catholic Church has issued guidelines on what Filipinos should wear to mass in Manila after some parishioners complained about distracting skimpy attire. "This is to remind people that it would be good to come in appropriate clothing because other people are scandalized," said Peachy Yamsuan of the archdiocese of Manila on Monday.

"It is for the other worshippers who are distracted. You come to the church to pray and if your eyes wander and you see inappropriate clothes, well, it does not add to your spiritual goals."

The majority of the Philippines' 87 million people are Catholic and worshippers throng sweltering churches each Sunday, although some devotees attend religious services in air-conditioned malls, giving the ceremony an informal air.

But Manila's archdiocese has issued posters advising women not to wear short skirts, revealing necklines and spaghetti-strap tops to mass, while men are warned against shorts, caps and basketball jerseys. Instead, female parishioners are encouraged to wear dresses or long skirts and blouses and men are asked to wear shirts, trousers or jeans.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070625/od_nm/philippines_church_dress_dc;_ylt=Ai9frY_AQf6DaCcvYoKo3WvMWM0F

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:05 AM
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1. so....
is the Catholic church going to be suggesting that women shouldn't wear pants, next?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:37 AM
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4. They might as well follow the Muslim requirement
Women should cover their whole body so no eye becomes a fornicator.

Not my belief. I am so glad I don't believe in that crap.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:05 AM
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2. You've got nerve.
At last, the truth is out.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:11 AM
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:28 AM
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7. How to win friends & influence people...NOT
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 08:28 AM by havocmom
Lots of good LIBERAL Catholics around. Personally, I won't put those down. Knew some priests who went to prison for helping people with water while they were crossing the desert in search of the promised land. The illegal EMPLOYERS making the promises that tempted people to cross that hostile terrain were not sent to prison, but water-bottle toting Catholic priests and people who tried to be human beings sure got in a lot of trouble.

edited for typo
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:50 AM
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10. Hardly a humble opinion
and actually pretty arrogant and offensive to many believers including many here on DU.


it is a tacky ugly sentiment and you ought to be ashamed.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:01 AM
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13. What if he had said that about
Scientologists? Mormons? Fundies? Any of the other religions that it is somehow OK to mock on DU? Would you have been up in arms then? Honestly?

I don't get why the Catholic Church is immune from the same ridicule that the fundies, Scientologists, and Mormons get on here quite frequently and without comment. Because there are Catholics on this site? Too damn bad. I know there are Mormons and I'd bet there are Scientologists. Boo Hoo, someone says something bad about the catholic chruch and its memebers. How about those members stop giving money to an institution that holds women is less regard than males, has an embarrassing (and I would argue "immoral") amount of wealth that it does nothing with to help the needy, is extremely bigoted about gays and homosexuals, and covers up sexual abuse by its priests and actually promotes those that were active in the cover up just to name a few of the problems? That's right, I said it. How about that?
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:20 AM
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18. Ummm I am a Protestant
An evangelical, a charismatic, and I am a liberal. I go to church regularly and I resent being called a boob. Even if he was just referring to Catholics it is still offensive.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:38 AM
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21. So do you go out of your way to call out those
that say offensive things about Scientologists? Mormons? RW Fundies?

I find that I am one of the few that ever says anything when those religions are mocked.

Now, I think all religions should be mock-able. My point is that some religions on DU are OK to be mocked and others not. I'm just wondering if you protect all religions or just the mainstream ones?
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:19 AM
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24. I only get offended at broadbrush attacks
when it is leveled at the whole of the church. I do not have a problem with attack on the politics of anyone on the Rightwing. But when you call everyone who goes to Chuch a boob... it is patently offensive.

Now having said that do I defend Mormons? No because I do not share their tenets. It does not mean I attack mormons or that I think venomous comment are appropriate. But I simply have not notices. Do I think Mormonism is a "cult" No. But I think reasoned theological issues are legitimate areas to converse on... I do wish it would not take place on DU.

I don't know enough about Scientology to comment if ans when attacke are made.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:23 AM
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5. I go for the boobs!
Church is a GREAT place to pick up hot chicks with that burning desire to get filled with the spirit of the lord! As a long-haired, jesus bearded dude, I have no problem getting laid on sunday afternoons!
Catholic chicks are by FAR the easiest!
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:24 AM
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6. I Know A Gay Episcopalian Who...
I know a gay Episcopalian who found the buns of kneeling alter boys over by the altar to be a terrible distraction during mass.

:evilgrin:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:34 AM
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8. The Church has been a come as you are
Church for long time (ever since women covering their heads became out of vogue). I guess it's now a problem in the Phillipines?
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:44 AM
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9. That's terrible!
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 08:47 AM by The Cleaner
Is anything sacred anymore? I just think of all places a church should be held sacred. In our insane world today it just seems so little is held sacred anymore...

edit to add: I continue to be amazed at some of the low-cut outfits the women wear to church here in the so called Bible Belt. I just think church is not the place for that. Have some respect for the Almighty.

I say if a person wants to gawk at some cleavage, go to the beach. Or the mall. But not in church.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:39 AM
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28. God made em -- who are they to hide em???
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 11:40 AM by Tesha
> Have some respect for the Almighty.

(According to their theology...)

God made em -- who are they to hide em???

That'd be like hiding your headlights under a cup, err, bushel...

Tesha
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:42 AM
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30. If that's so (and this Catholic is unaware of that theological point, sarcastic or no),
men's underwear can be doffed, too.

Might get me back to the fold, as it were.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:55 AM
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11. Holy shit - had I but known, I never would've ripped on religion so hard! My apologies.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:57 AM
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12. Pictures please?
As one of the unchurched, I would find illustrations helpful. Preferably the more egregious examples, so we could get a true sense of what we're talking about.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:46 AM
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31. Well here ya go, then
You terrible sinner, you. Oops, they turned their backs to you before you could get a good look.



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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:02 AM
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14. Go for the god. Stay for the boobs.
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samq79 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:03 AM
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15. this is hilarious...n/t
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Wiregrass Willie Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:19 AM
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16. I don't go to church to do either
Do you go to church to pray or to look at boobs?

But as long as I'm there, I prefer the latter.
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FredMertz Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:20 AM
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17. Boobs! But I'm Reformed....
Dutch Reformed.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:21 AM
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19. Why is this an either/or question?
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:10 AM
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22. Shame on you!
I wanted to post that!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:48 AM
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32. some go to church to pray for boobs to look at, no?
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:22 AM
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20. Hurray for boobies!
I never knew this was an option. Where might I find a booby church in my own town? Do I have to go pagan? The goatskin leggings chaff me terribly.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:11 AM
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23. A god with boobs would truly an all-powerful god be.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:31 PM
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37. what movie was it
where the evil alien villainess said something about Earth like "silly place, anybody could take it over with the right set of mammary glands."

I think it was Men in Black 2, but I can't say for sure.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:24 AM
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43. It was (MIB-II).
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:36 PM
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42. Here ya go!
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:22 AM
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25. Hey, there are restrictions on male clothing up there too.
Was there a sudden onslaught of great looking men in tight shorts?

(And what church was this again?)
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:23 AM
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26. I don't go to church, but I look at boobs wherever I go.
I can spot a nipple at close to a mile.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:06 AM
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27. When I was a kid, I would count bald heads and fur coats at Mass to kill time.

:shrug:

How can you see boobies when everyone is sitting in pews?
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:42 AM
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29. Jesus Christ!
those are some nice boobs!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:48 AM
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33. praise the Lord!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:54 PM
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39. and Pass the ammunition! nt
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:50 AM
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34. Church, who needs it? So much to do over nothing.
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 11:53 AM by Sapere aude
We had an outdoor chapel at the nudist club where my wife and I met. We were going to get married there but a lot of our guests didn't want to go to the club. Church in the buff! See boobs and whatever else god/goddess created. If you can't pray in the nude when can you pray?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:11 PM
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35. Your wife's name isn't Lwaxana, is it?
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:16 PM
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36. Naws. it's Heather
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:03 PM
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38. my son says he goes to church to think about cars
and to please his wife.

I suspect that's what pretty much all men do while sitting in church. They think about boobs or cars or what they're gonna eat for lunch.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:54 PM
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40. I go for the boobs. nt
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:05 PM
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41. June 25, 2008 headline - Filipino churches struggle with attendance
how many guys are going to go if they can't see the scantily clad women?
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