Is fellatio the ONLY thing that rises to high crimes and misdemeanors?

[kpete]

'Off the Table'
A. Alexander, June 25th, 2007

...........

Gosh, what if, say, the President unconstitutionally and unilaterally decided to make a bunch of notes claiming himself to be exempted from laws passed by Congress and then, for hoots-n-giggles, perhaps, actually refused to adhere to a third of said laws; would impeachment be 'on the table' then?

Still no impeachment upon the table, huh? Wonder what it takes then, to get impeachment on the table. Is fellatio the ONLY thing that rises to high crimes and misdemeanors?

.............

So, here is the question to be pondered: If the Democrats won't do anything to end the endless war in Iraq; if Democrats won't do ANYTHING to defend the Constitution and democracy from a group of criminals; and if the Democrats will do nothing to stop the administration's mad march toward tyranny, what possible reason is there for the people to continue supporting the Democrats?

Let's see here...hmmm...impeachment? When Democrats put impeachment 'on the table' and begin holding hearings for the impeachment of one or all of the felons listed above, "We the People" will put voting Democratic 'on the table' again. Until then, voting Democratic is 'off the table.'

more at:
http://www.progressivedailybeacon.com/more.php?page=opinion&id=1586

[Totally Committed]

1. I know. It's astounding, really, isn't it?

When Democrats put impeachment 'on the table' and begin holding hearings for the impeachment of one or all of the felons listed above, "We the People" will put voting Democratic 'on the table' again. Until then, voting Democratic is 'off the table.'

I hear ya, and I agree.

TC

[TahitiNut]

31. Same here.

I refuse to vote for people who don't represent my absolutely essential interests. Torture. Habeas corpus. A criminal war, invasion, and occupation. Spying on Americans and lying about it. When politicians are complicit in such abominations, even in condoning them by inaction, they lose my support.

[Botany]

2. Well a B.J. is far more serious than lying to start an unneeded war where ...

... over 650,000 people have died.

[SteelPenguin]

12. He wasn't impeached because he got a B.J.

He got impeached because the right hated him from the get go and tried for 6 years to get him on anything and couldn't and they finally were able to snag a reason to impeach him by twisiting a semantic disagreement during testemony about a private matter into a 'lie'.

[Botany]

13. Oh Clinton did lie .... or @ least played fast and loose w/ the truth but ....

.... you are right he was impeached because the right wing was mad as hell he kept
winning elections.

I wonder if Clinton won by even bigger margins but the size of his vote total
was shaved by republican/thug election crimes.

[cobalt1999]

14. Oh, Clinton was a good at playing fast and loose with the truth.

However, I think most of the country understood that if they were in his situation (fooling around with an intern while married), they'd probably not be very forthcoming either. IMHO, he should have refused to answer the question instead of side stepping it.

[Botany]

15. He should have said it is none of your business

Considering he was being deposed because a rich right wing bastard
was paying some "thing" from Arkansas to claim she hurt by her affair
w/ Clinton years after it happened.

The whole thing was a witch hunt 7 years and 70 million $s to find
nothing.

[jojo54]

3. Let's face it, conservatives think that sex,

especially between gay men, is far, far worse than sending thousands of our young men and women to be killed in a war that puts money in the pockets of a certain few.

Gee, let's see......a pleasurable act versus a heinous act. You figure it out.

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. Of course

[rasputin1952]

5. If we are using sexual references for what is happening...

then I should think that the bush adminsitration is guilty of rape of the American people while using the Constitution as a condom is a bit more serious...:eyes:

[Lil Missy]

6. Only if the President is Democratic. Repukes can fuck a goat and not be impeached

[BobRossi]

8. Or hold homosexual orgies at the WH.

And give their gay lovers jobs in the press corp.

[BobRossi]

9. self delete

[BobRossi]

7. Illegal use of a cigar.

Ranks right up there.

[Cassandra]

10. No, no...

Democratic fellatio (consensual and between adults) alone is a high crime and misdemeanor. Republican fellatio (furtive, with minors, practised by hypocrites) is endlessly forgiven. War? That has its own cheering section.

[yardwork]

19. Don't forget torture. That's best of all!

:eyes:

[Labors of Hercules]

11. The whole tamale.

impeachment, conviction, civil & criminal prosecution, war crimes tribunal...

Then send them to Iraq for sentencing. :grr:

[Captain Hilts]

16. Dems do not have enough of a majority to make impeachment stick. nt

[Wednesdays]

17. Nor did the Repugs in 1999...

but did that stop them?

[Captain Hilts]

22. It was a waste of time. I'd rather haul Cheney/Fredo before Congress...

to win our rights back.

[TahitiNut]

27. The same was said during the Nixon years. Wrong then; wrong now.

:shrug:

[mwb970]

30. It doesn't matter.

The Constitution clearly says they have to do it anyway, whether or not it will "stick". This is not a political decision, it is an American decision.

[mmonk]

18. Yes. That now is the standard.

[liberal N proud]

20. Republicons are only interested in forcing their moral views on others

High crimes and misdemeanors are irrelevant if there is no immoral sex act and then only if it is a Democrat committing the sexual deviation according to the standard set by the reich wing.

[WinkyDink]

21. Oh, it was the LYING! The LYING! OMG, the LYING**!

Little remembered (I think) is that Clinton was asked what had transpired PRIOR to his knowledge of whatever Monica might have said; testifying blind, as it were. Thus, he just might have wanted not only to protect his private life---but also HERS.

After all, would he not have been the First Cad if he'd have told all while the lady in question had denied it?

**P.S. Clinton was never convicted of lying; and, in point of further legal fact, had not done so, according to the very definition of "sexual relations" provided by the prosecution, which, by some incredible oversight, had omitted a working description of oral sex performed by the "victim" upon the "perpetrator".

[TahitiNut]

29. There you go again, trying to bring the FACTS into the discussion.

If that whole charade demonstrated anything it's that Impeachment is VERY doable.

[John Q. Citizen]

23. For some reason the Dems want little to do with holding bush accountable.

I'm starting to believe that Dem leaders must share major culpability in the crimes of this administration and for that reason won't pursue action against the administration that could expose their own guilt in these matters.

Except for a few narrowly defined areas of inquiery, the Dems seem more than happy to just forget about the lies that led us into an illegal war and illegal occupation, torture, the systematic erosion of our rights, and the transformation of our country from a democratic republic into an empire led by unelected corporate entities.

[lonestarnot]

25. Puzzling what lack of patriotism we are seeing demonstrated at top levels of the party.

[ThomCat]

24. They're not waiting for the right reason to impeach,

They're waiting for the right opportunity. The stars have to align just right, and all the right people in corporate America need to announce the need for impeachment. Then they'll support it.
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[thedeanpeople]

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[pat_k]

28. We'll vote for Dems -- Democratic PRIMARY CHALLENGERS

The EFFECTIVE threat is not "won't vote Democratic," it is "Impeach or face the primary fight of your life."

And we must start with Pelosi. Now.

And here are the Democratic Senators who will be facing the Voters in 2009. They don't have the power to impeach, but they've got mouths. They're office gives them a BIG Megaphone. They can make the case to the public. They could even pass a resolution calling on the House to send them a Bill of Impeachment ASAP.

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