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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:53 AM
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ROVIAN JUSTICE: "After Her Intention To Speak Became Known-Her House Was Burned To The Ground"
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 09:11 AM by kpete
Rovian Justice in the Banana Republic of Alabama
Submitted by tom on Mon, 2007-06-25 11:56.

Republican Playbook Department of What is WRONG with These People?

Wow. Go read this http://harpers.org/archive/2007/06/hbc-90000351 if you want to learn just how Rove wants to use the legal system to settle political scores. Of course, I’ve always felt that Alabama was really a third world banana republic run by the sort of folks who belong in John Grisham novels — but I digress.

And, apparently, it all would’ve worked perfectly but Dana Simpson, a Republican, had to open her mouth and blow the whistle. So now the Rovian mafioso-like intimidation begins:

The response to Simpson’s affidavit (Affidavit Suggesting Rove Involvement 06-04-2007 http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/rove-affidavit/)
has been a series of brusque dismissive statements – all of them unsworn – from others who figured in the discussion and the federal prosecutor in the Siegelman case, who has now made a series of demonstrably false statements concerning the matter. She’s been smeared as “crazy” and as a “disgruntled contract bidder.” And something nastier: after her intention to speak became known, Simpson’s house was burned to the ground, and her car was driven off the road and totaled. Clearly, there are some very powerful people in Alabama who feel threatened. Her case starts to sound like a chapter out of John Grisham’s book The Pelican Brief.

http://correntewire.com/rovian_justice_in_the_banana_republic_of_alabama



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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:10 AM
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1. Think that's why dems in congress are shaking in their boots
and are scared to impeach bush and investigate rove. That turd with no blossom has got to go. WHY IN THE HELL ARE THEY INVESTIGATING HIM................................????????????????????
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:02 AM
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5. Dunno, but it explains why the REPUBLICANS in congress are still backing BUSH
Dems are investigating Bush and Rove. See Leahy, Waxman, etc

However, Republicans continue to block legislation that Dems present. Maybe this explains why.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:20 PM
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18. Yeah...The real irony with that when I see all these Republicans smile smugly like somehow
its all working for them. Like they are going to get cut in for watching Fox. But they are not "in on it" they are not going to "get a cut". They are going to get screwed, along with everybody else. That's what many of them are starting to wake up to.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:14 AM
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2. Cross the mob....
The junta makes the mob look like boy scouts.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:21 AM
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3. These people are sociopathic monsters
Poppy Bush was called the Ice Pick for how heartless he is. They've murdered
people left, right and center (quite literally ... though usually left and center).
That's why the Democrats are terrified of them, and with good reason. That's also
why we should admire greatly the handful of people who still stand up to them ...
despite threats of violence and ruin.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:23 AM
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4. The problem is.....we thought they couldn't read...
But it seems that every strange plot twist from the 20th century treasure trove of terrorist literature has been re-enacted on the stage of real life.

Clancy used the 'planes into buildings' act years ago, IIRC.

1984 is just too frighteningly real to watch being played out before our eyes with the domestic spying, endless wars, torture as accepted policy, and forced compliance to 'patriotic' messages.

The Grisham novels, with their shady, back door legal wranglings and corporate shenanigans supported by crooked lawyers are being relived in real life, before our eyes.

They've been reading. The problem is, they forgot they were reading fiction and not training manuals.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:37 AM
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6. ROVE: No Comment
Since a Republican lawyer went forward with a sworn affidavit concerning the GOP plot to frame former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman–a plot involving Karl Rove, his Bama buddy William Canary, and U.S. Attorney Leura Canary (yes, they’re husband and wife)–few things have been as telling of the White House press corps(e) as their failure to ask a question about the affair.

Then last week, Bush and Rove went on the road . . . to the Heart of Dixie. And on Thursday, a reporter for the Huntsville Times popped the question to Rove directly. So how did Rove respond?

Rove was in Alabama on Thursday with President Bush as he toured the Browns Ferry nuclear plant in Athens. When asked about Siegelman’s allegations that he was pulling the puppet strings behind the ex-governor’s prosecution, Rove smiled and denied it. “I know nothing about any phone call,” Rove said.

Then a White House press aide stepped up and said, “What he meant to say was that he has no comment.”


Note Rove’s masterful non-denial denial. No one has ever suggested that Rove was in the phone call. To the contrary, it was a phone call among others about Rove. So his statement was not, in fact, a denial of anything. And note that immediate interpretive rebound by the unidentified press aide: “No comment.” How should that be construed? As England’s greatest lawyer, Thomas More, put it, Qui tacet consentit. He who fails to answer, states his consent.

http://harpers.org/archive/2007/06/hbc-90000357
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:06 AM
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7. Thugs don't like to be outed
Once again a stolen election and crimes and who is right in the middle???

Kar F***ing Rove
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:10 PM
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8. And don't forget the years of illegal wiretapping....
You can be sure that EVERY member of Congress was tapped, on both sides of the aisle. These neocon thugs have the ways and means to blackmail and if that doesn't work, then they execute wet ops.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:02 PM
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9. in case you hadn't noticed...
America is a third-world banana republic run by people who belong in John Grisham novels.

And Karl Rovie isn't from Alabama.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 05:55 AM
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31. Roll Tide!
except when playing Tennessee
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:07 PM
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10. Abramoff and Kark Rove Linked to Prosecution of Ex-Alabama Governor and Campaign Finances
Archived thread from June 1, when Time released this story:

Abramoff and Kark Rove Linked to Prosecution of Ex-Alabama Governor and Campaign Finances
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1023111#1023658

Parallel thread today:
Ex-Democratic Governor fighting 30-year sentence says he was target of Rove plot
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1186947
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:05 PM
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16. thanks for links -- any chance Gonzo will investigate!?!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:03 PM
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23. Gonzo has been recused. He is just a name on a shingle now.
You have to wonder about who is running the DoJ, really. Both Gonzolies and McNutly are recused from a lot of activity because the investigations focus on them. McNulty will be gone this week. I have not heard if anyone is willing to take a job at DoJ anymore!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:13 PM
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11. For the good of this country, that douchebag should be behind bars.
Preferably in one of those maximum security torture facilities he helped justify.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:20 PM
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12. From the Harper's article...
This week, former Governor Siegelman faces sentencing before Judge Fuller. The federal prosecutors handling the case have demanded a sentence of thirty years in prison – in a case which should have been dismissed in the first instance and in any event involves no personal gain of any sort by Siegelman. The prosecutors’ sentencing request was further strong evidence that the case is a vendetta. No doubt a very harsh sentence will be issued.

And no doubt the case will not end there. The Siegelman prosecution is now receiving attention across the United States. No less than six attorneys general have written to Congressional oversight committees noting the gross irregularities and suspicious circumstances of the prosecution, and have requested that Congress conduct direct inquiries into what transpired in this case. The Siegelman prosecution will in all likelihood soon be exposed for what it is: one of the blackest moments in Alabama justice since the trial of the Scottsboro Boys.


Thank God the Democrats control the Congressional oversight committees who have received those letters from the six AG's. There would have been no recourse if the party-comes-before-integrity Rethugs were controlling those committees.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:27 PM
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15. Wonder what Gonzo is doing, that shiftless, criminal in our nation's highest law enforcement slot?
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Preening Fop Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 05:56 AM
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32. Vigorously Accumulating his Stash in Caymen Island Banks.....!
:hide:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:20 PM
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13. TPM is peeling these scandals away like onion skins
I am giving some love to them. They kept delving into the DOJ/USA thing until the MSM and the congress paid attention. And as they unskinned the onion, they helped bring light to this newest nasty bit from KKKarl and Co.

All hail Talking Points Memo dot com.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:58 PM
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22. TIME magazine broke this story!
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:23 PM
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14. Well, I welcome her to the rest of us who sacrifice,...by being honest.
Welcome.

NOW, you know what it is like to be decent in a sadisticly self-serving regime.

Hang on.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:28 PM
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19. We can put her in the underground and hide her till she spills. I will volunteer to safehouse her
for a couple of weeks. I'm too tired to read the whole thread. Is she ok?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:07 PM
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17. k&r
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:57 PM
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20. Jesus
This gets more like the fucking Sopranos every day...
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:03 PM
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21. I believe it
they are capable of anything
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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:03 PM
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24. While I admire the meat of your post
I have to say that it's not very productive to lash out at Alabama (or any other state for that matter) simply because it's in a part of the country that you do not respect. Alabama is--trust me on this--a wonderful place to live.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:22 AM
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39. You forgot to add..."if you're not Don Siegelman , or a Democrat"
Edited on Wed Jun-27-07 09:24 AM by loudsue
I lived in Alabama for a while. And, it is true that there is some beautiful country there to see, and many of the people are very nice. But there is also as much hate and corruption in Alabama, and prolly more, as there is in many other states. I, too, live in the South (N.C.) and republicans have corrupted a great deal of what was once the best of the southern states. As we speak, organized crime is infiltrating Asheville, NC, just as it has done in many other states, as well as any place that the bush crime family touches.... including Arkansas (Mena comes to mind).

The point is, the majority of Americans want REAL justice, not mob justice. But under the REPUBLICANS, the MOB and the political landscape are indistinguishable from one another. Same modus operendi are present in both. And in states where REPUBLICANS rule, there is naturally more mob-type corruption going on. It hurts ALL of the honest, justice loving people who are left to try to make sense of it.

:kick::kick:
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:11 PM
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25. "...the telltale sign of tyranny."
I hope more articles spell it out so clearly.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:42 PM
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26. This is precisely why Jefferson insisted on the 2nd Amendment
If they knew we were as prepared as their side, they'd stop this shit right now.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 12:07 AM
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27. Psychopaths
Fucking psychopaths run this country. They are tyrants to the core. I am so fucking sick of bullies. Especially thug bullies in power. Something MUST be able to reign them,break their grubby hands and disable their henchmen and schemes, limit them and stop the damage they do to cover their filthy agendas and assholes..They MUST be made accountable.Somehow some way. To do anything else with psychopaths like this in power is to tolerate the intolerable.I wish ruin to every piece of shit psychopath,authoritarian sick ass toxic personality may they all just shrivel up as the truth rips their masks away,and may these kind of cold blooded toxic creatures in human suits be destroyed and forever exposed,excluded and hated by all human beings wherever they show up.. to con, taint,twist, lie, ,torture,intimidate, bully and manipulate..
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:37 PM
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41. There is only one way to treat bullies
And that is to stand up to them. They are weak, petty, pathetic beings. If we give them a bigger dose of pain than they give us, they'll stop it right fucking now.

Congress, listen up. Kick them in the balls. Hard.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 01:46 AM
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28. What am I missing? Riley who won is a Republican and a Democratic
attorney was the one accused of putting the signs up around people he thought were members of the Klu Klux Klan.

So a Repub one, a Dem was fighting it. Another Dem was acting like a baby with campaign signs. And this woman is the whistle blower and they burn HER house down?

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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 01:50 AM
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29. To address the Harpers article: I left and fled Alabama in a NY second.
That's because it IS fucked up. That doesn't mean that there are not good people there, but it is an uphill climb if you are a progressive. Everybody else can only seem to talk about football and football. Sometimes some of them will still talk about niggers and queers. And yet I still love my Alabama era.

I was just a student and eventually getting high whenever I could. I was not an activist and didn't have the slightest compulsion to be involved until I missed a deadline to register my vote in the Reagan/Carter debacle. I was denied. I moved to NYC a year later and have not missed an opportunity to cast my vote at any level.

My heart does cry for Alabama injustice. It is very real. Just ask anybody from Georgia or Mississippi.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 04:22 AM
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30. Prosecute the entire Republican party under the RICO Act.
They ARE organized crime and they're ALL in on it. Treat them like the Mafia or the Hell's Angels. If a few of them commit crimes THEY'RE ALL GUILTY OF THOSE CRIMES! It's time to handle the Republican crime family the way they SHOULD be handled. Put ALL the bastards in jail.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:05 AM
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33. The anecdote about Domenici calling Iglesius
really hasn't gotten the play it should. The call to Iglesius was out of line; the attitude exhibited by hanging up on him was so outrageously cocksure...

WHY did a senator from New Mexico feel so confident in his ability to get someone canned by dropping a dime and calling the WH? WHAT did he know from secret discussions about the "new rules?"

This is trivial as compared to the vast assortment of activities of this criminal enterprise, but it provides a peek inside. Domenici has been around a while; he is not one of the founders of the enterprise - he's just like a frat boy learning that the party is going to include date rape drugs, saying, "oh, goody, now I can get laid." His behavior is evidence of the depth and breadth of the absolute perversion of the executive branch and complicity of the republican congress.

Rove stated his intentions of establishing a 100-year republican domination; you KNOW there were conversations with the fringe players to the effect: 'play along and you'll reap the spoils; step out of line and you and all your family will be hurt very badly'
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:06 AM
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34. Remember when Kit Bond
was going to join DEMs in sponsoring a bill this past spring and a car jumped the sidewalk to knock him down that week.

Yeah, I bet this is why some DEMs are scared. That's why we need to continue to be supportive of the ones who are making stands and speaking out. For all we know they are risking their lives and the lives of their families to do so.

Damn fascists.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:50 AM
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35. Sounds suspiciously like the "Clinton Hit List"...
...but then, the surest indicator of what dirty deeds Republicans are up to has been whatever they accuse Democrats of doing...
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:52 AM
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36. Kick nt
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:31 AM
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37. K&R
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:31 AM
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38. There's A Reason He's Called KKKarl Around Here...
And this is just one example.

:mad:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:35 AM
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40. MUCH more about Dana Jill Simpson here:
http://www.locustfork.net/blog/jill_simpsons_affidavit/jill_simpsons_famous_affidavit.html

"Yet she still practices law with the front door unlocked in this land famous heretofore most notably for the Scottsboro Boys" trial, one of the first glaring cases of legal racism that helped spawn the Civil Rights Movement.

The area is also politically famous for Buck's Pocket. It used to be said that defeated politicians went there to lick their wounds. And, the area is famous for its Sand Mountain tomatoes, the best in the world due to the high lime content in the limestone soil. And from Ft. Payne to the east, there is the country band Alabama.

What the mostly politically conservative people of this rural area may not fully understand yet, including the mostly retired Republicans who meet for coffee every Monday morning at the Hardees in Scottsboro, is that the place is about to be famous for something else.

Namely, unless the Bush Justice Department's power and corruption is so complete that they are able to bury this story and run roughshod over the blind Lady of Justice, the area is about to be famous for one modern-day Joan of Arc - a rare true believer in truth, justice and the "American way."

Most people who know her as a real, working lawyer just call her Jill Simpson."
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