On Cheney Impeachment- Lincoln said it best:

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“The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country.”
Lincoln's Annual Message to Congress, December 1, 1862


From the American Heritage Dictionary:

disenthrall

SYLLABICATION: dis·en·thrall
PRONUNCIATION: dsn-thrôl
TRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: dis·en·thralled, dis·en·thrall·ing, dis·en·thralls
Definition: To free from a controlling force or influence.


Couldn't have said it better. IMPEACHMENT NOW!

[MNDemNY]

1. Lincoln also said:

[Hissyspit]

2. Cheney would preside over his own impeachment proceedings.

Just thought I'd mention that.

[n2doc]

3. I'd pay to see that!

Although, doesn"t the chief Justice on the Supreme Court preside over the trial? Or is that just for the House part?

[Hissyspit]

4. Hmm.

Instapundit:

The Senate has the sole power to try impeachments. The Vice President is the President of the Senate. He presides. The Constitution provides for only one exception in cases of impeachment: "When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside." That's because of the obvious conflict-of-interest of having the VP preside when the President is tried. But there's no similar provision for having someone else preside if the Vice President is impeached.

Someone responding to Instapundit:

by smur 10 hours ago
The letter of the constitution does not state that a judge shall preside over the impeachment trial of the Vice President, but the spirit of the constitution does. The problem is, Cheney supporters will use the letter to delay the trial, and even take the matter to the Supreme Court. Of course, the court will not rule before the end of the current administration. Knowing this, and fearing the loss of support of some moderate Republicans in the 2008 elections, the Democrats will not start impeachment proceedings. This may not be what some people like to hear, but this is the most likely outcome.

[n2doc]

6. Well then, as much as I hate to say it, Impeach Shrub first

Then, as soon as Crashcart is moved up, Impeach him too!

Legalisms should not stand in the way of justice. Not if there is a route through the jungle.


I still think that if Cheney were impeached, that there would be so much of a hue and cry if he tried to assert himself as presider that He would step down. But that is just my hopeful guess.

[truedelphi]

7. Still the thought of Cheney having the power to hit the button

On thermonuclear war, even if his finger is there for just a minute, is a scary one.

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8. It is scary. OTOH he could have done it already

It sure looks like Shrub rubberstamps anything Uncle Dick wants.

Besides, Global Thermonuclear War is bad for Biz. Hard to enjoy your golf game in an underground bunker. I think even Crashcart has his bosses. I think that is the real reason we haven't gone to war with Iran. Even though they don't have nukes yet, Us using nukes would lead to some very unpredictable, but uniformly bad, consequences. For Exxon and the other oil companies as well as everyone else.

[truedelphi]

9. I haven't ahd too many clues come my way that this

Administration cares about very unpredictable, but uniformly bad, consequences.

I'd like to think that they do - but see no signs of it.

[Gregorian]

5. Oops.

Oops.

The Chief Justice only presides if the VP is acting as President. I earlier posted that the CJ presided. But that's not necessarily true.

[eppur_se_muova]

10. "Disenthrall", what a singularly evocative word...

And so appropriate to the present.

[KharmaTrain]

11. Get The Specific Criminal Charges And Lets Go

Impeachment isn't some magic wand that happens overnight. The door has opened to apparent criminal, or at least unconstitutional, actions by cheney that make a clear-cut case for drawing up articles of impeachment. Now the game goes to the House Judiciary Committee...John Conyers. The question here...as it was with Nixon in '74, is will there be a charge that pulls over at least one or two Repugnican committee votes...thus giving the articles a "bi-partisan" nature. Several Repugnicans DID cross over in '74...but I'm not sure we have such intrepid souls today. You still have "Tex" Sennsenbrenner there as well as Mary Bono. That's the sad thing...even with overwhelming evidence there are hacks who will put their party or agenda ahead of justice and the Constituion.

While I think the best case for impeachment at this point...and the one that would decapitate this regime the most...would be going after Gonzo. The book on him is as thick as a phone book and investigating him leads to both cheney and boooshie as well as rove and others...let's widen this net.

What really needs to be done now is to force crashcart's hand in court...push subpoenas and contempt of Congress citations that will force the tough questions to be answered in courts...just like Nixon's smoking gun tape was. When that happens, we cross into a new scenario.

Cheers...