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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:55 AM
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Poll question: Do you agree with John Edwards that Hugo Chavez's policies are "increasingly authoritarian?"
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 11:18 AM by Freddie Stubbs
Last week a group of Venezuelan-American activists criticized John Edwards for campaigning with Danny Glover, citing Glover's friendship with Hugo Chavez. Edwards campaign responded:

"Of course John Edwards rejects Hugo Chavez's increasingly authoritarian policies," Edwards spokesman Eric Schultz said in a written statement. "However, John Edwards does agree with Danny Glover that workers need rights, 37 million people in this country should not live in poverty and we need real, universal health care. John Edwards doesn't have to agree with someone on every issue to stand with them on the ones that he does."

source: http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/newsbyid.asp?id=68494

Do you agree with John Edwards that Chavez's policies are "increasingly authoritarian?"
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:03 AM
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1. Yes but..
Still much less so than El Dictator shrub.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:16 AM
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2. Let's worry about our increasingly authoritarian regime before we
start trying to reform Venezuala. If this is happening, you know it's a direct result of our meddling in their internal economic affairs (ie Oil). Without that, would we be paying attention?


If a populist like Chavez is erring on protecting the assets of Vewnezuala for the vast majority, is that a bad thing? We certainly have seen enough RW authoritarian governments in SA over the past 50 years, why not allow the LW a little slack?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:20 PM
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24. I don't buy that argument when bush uses it...
that external threats are the "reason" for increasing authoritarianism.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:28 PM
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25. Exactly. Worry about the beam in our own eye.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:06 AM
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28. So, we should also ignore Darfur too?
:shrug:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:18 AM
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3. What would a TV psychic know about Chavez and Venezuela anyway?
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:18 AM
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4. He can predict the future, duh.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:19 AM
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5. D'oh!
Nice catch there. Is that guy still on TV?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:28 AM
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8. Wouldn't suprise me if he was still on the air.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:21 AM
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6. yes, I said this a while ago. I am glad to hear Edwards say this.
Like the programs Chavez is doing, but the authoritarian nature of his government recently is a little disconcerting.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:22 AM
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7. I don't agree with Venezuela on those enabling laws or a lack of public oversight over...
broadcast licensing. As their constitution stands, it remains mute on whether there should be a public hearing or a fair hearing about the renewal of television broadcast licenses. It simply leaves it up to the executive to decide the issue. I think that's a flawed process and that it should be changed, but I believe even if RCTV did get a fair hearing, it would've been shut down anyway, as they denied opposition viewpoints to be aired during the 2002 coup.

With the enabling law where congress can give the power of decree over several areas of government jurisdiction, I don't much care for that.

Regardless, I generally don't find it worthwhile for us to be meddling in the internal affairs of other countries.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:30 AM
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9. Oh ABSOLUTELY. And Good On John For Saying It Too!
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:35 AM
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10. chavez is coming down hard on the oligarchs.

those are the ones one who are whining, because chavez is taking authority away from them.

oh, and those that want to watch a cetain TV station.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:45 PM
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12. Do you believe Edwards said this because of the oligarchs, or
because he likes to watch a cetain TV station?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:36 AM
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11. Hell no!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 07:05 AM
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41. Why not?
:shrug:
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:46 PM
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13. Why is it always YOU who posts these polls?
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 12:52 PM by wuushew
I get it you don't like Chavez...and your other political interests are?
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:50 PM
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15. Because Chavez criticizes Bush?
Only answer I can come up with.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:13 AM
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32. Wrong!
Try again.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:45 PM
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19. It would seem by the results of this poll I am not the only DUer who isn't a Chavez fan
BTW, how many other polls have I posted about Chavez?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:47 PM
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14. Actually, I really don't listen to John Edwards on much of anything.
He's known to change his mind as soon as the latest polls come out.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:15 PM
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22. (jotting down post title for future use) ... however, I knew this already...
So when it comes to debating what Edwards' positions are and what he has said I guess that lets you out since you 'don't listen to John Edwards on much of anything.'
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:02 AM
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34. How do you know he changes his mind if you don't listen to him?
:shrug:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:52 PM
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16. I dont know anything about Chavez
So I cant answer the question.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:56 PM
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17. Yes, he shares many personalithy traits with
Bush, Stalin, Hitler and other autbhoritarian personalities across history

Just because he is a populist does not mean he is not an authoritarian personality
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:45 PM
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18. I agree that john edwards' views are increasingly irrelevant
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:12 PM
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20. Have ANY presidential candidates (or potential candidates) spoken favorably of Chavez?
:shrug:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:04 PM
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26. If that was your question
why din't you post it that way?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:12 AM
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30. Edwards' campaign provided a very succinct quote on the subject
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:17 PM
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23. to you? Certainly not to the millions of people polled favoring him. Like Iowa....
... where he is leading all Democratic Candidates.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:11 PM
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27. lol
Have you any idea WHERE we are in the primaries? Do you even remember the 2004 primaries? Those numbers mean jack at this point.

johnnyboy ain't going anywhere. He's a finger in the wind poseur.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:57 AM
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37. He means something to me
So bite me. I have an opinion too and it's just as important as yours.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:15 PM
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21. I have enough to think about at home. n/t
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:03 AM
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42. Fortunately most DUers can multi-task
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:22 AM
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29. Its refreshing to see that the Chavez-bots
are really just a very vocal minority on this site. I never would have guessed.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:16 AM
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31. It's hard for them to that see that their hero has feet of clay.
But they make up for it with a lot of noise though.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:16 AM
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33. Yes. So? Most people who attain power abuse it.
Even "democratically' elected ones like Chavez, or Bush, or LBJ, or Abraham Lincoln.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:23 AM
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35. Does that make it an acceptable practice?
:shrug:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:39 AM
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36. No. But, picking out Chavez as some sort of example is naive, at best.
The world is loaded with various forms of government in which power is abused. Ours included. Why Chavez?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 12:55 PM
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38. Because Chavez had been quite skillful in fooling a small but vocal minority of
DUers that his abuse of power is for the greater good.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 01:02 PM
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39. Whatever happened to DEMOCRATIC Underground?
Half of us here don't even know what it means to be a Democrat.

You yes people should read more.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 01:39 PM
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40. Democratic is not the same as Authoritarian
People are wising up to Chavez's game.
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