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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:30 PM
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CIA Family Jewels report released...
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB222/index.htm

Remember: These aren't the Crown Jewels.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:31 PM
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1. Why are they naming their covert actions after testicles?
Testicles aren't covert. Now ovaries, on the other hand... those puppies are totally covert.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:42 PM
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2. Imagine how bad the stuff is they're doing now that they can release the evil they did then?


They're probably softening us up for something worse. Much, much worse.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:56 PM
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3. I Wondered Why The Release
You may have the answer
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:11 PM
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5. My first thoughts exactly when they announced the release
WTF are they bracing us for...(in terms of actions now)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:26 PM
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10. 'Limited hangout'
I doubt they will ever release what they are doing now. I think this is a distraction from other crimes or a limited hangout...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

A "limited hangout" is a form of deception, misdirection, or coverup often associated with intelligence agencies involving a release or "mea culpa" type of confession of only part of a set of previously hidden sensitive information, that establishes credibility for the one releasing the information who by the very act of confession appears to be "coming clean" and acting with integrity; but in actuality by withholding key facts is protecting a deeper crime and those who could be exposed if the whole truth came out.

A limited hangout typically is a response to lower the pressure felt from inquisitive investigators pursuing clues that threaten to expose everything, and the disclosure is often combined with red herrings or propaganda elements that lead to false trails, distractions, or ideological disinformation; thus allowing covert or criminal elements to continue in their improper activities.

Victor Marchetti wrote: "A 'limited hangout' is spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting - sometimes even volunteering - some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further."<1>



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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:14 PM
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13. like when you're lying but tell enough of the truth to keep people from
asking further questions...just enough to satisfy...

and it's always a nothing kind of truth - a part, but small part...but something that can be extrapolated out enough to explain the action you're lying about or covering up

I went to the store and my attention was distracted (I think a something bit me on my leg) - so I wrecked the car ..it was an accident...could have happened to anybody

what I don't tell is that I was distracted by the burning of my leg because of the joint I dropped on my lap while trying to put the beer down that the hitchhiker I picked up bought for me

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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:13 PM
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7. I honestly think you may be onto something nt
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:06 PM
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32. ...curious bit of branding, isn't it?
I think it's just transparent silliness, (and a typical slap in our face, because they can and enjoy it).

Here's what they seem to be telegraphing:

Ooooooh, this is the REAL THING. (yeah, for the "don't waken me" ghost story crowd)

Here's the subtext:

Distasteful as it (lame, limited hangout) is, it's what REAL MEN had the CAJONES to do, in order to PROTECT our great American FRANCHISE of liberty and justice for all.

Anybody else?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:09 PM
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4. Thank you!!!! Off I go to read
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:18 PM
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15. Operation PLUTO was Dulles, Nixon and Eisenhower's Baby.
Going after Castro was initially DCI Allen Dulles' idea. From what I understand, Dulles and the "CIA White House Action Officer" Nixon sold the idea to Ike.

An excellent overview:



Operation Pluto

(thing) by BrooksMarlin (6 min) (print) ? 2 C!s
Wed Dec 04 2002 at 5:15:47

When Fidel Castro took control of Cuba in 1959, he managed to anger possibly the two most powerful organizations in the United States at the time, the U.S. government and the mafia. It seemed only natural that the two would team up to try and depose him.

The enterprise started in August of 1960. The CIA approached Beverly Hills private detective named Robert Maheu and asked him to help them with their plan to kill Castro by contacting his old friend Johnny Rosselli. Maheu was an ex-FBI agent who the CIA used to handle delicate matters where they didn't want to have an Agency or government person get caught. Johnny Rosselli was one of the heads of the Chicago Outfit, the most powerful organized crime group in the country. He split his time between Los Angeles and Las Vegas, handling all of the Outfit's west coast operations. For all of his criminal dealings, Rosselli was also an ardent patriot who loved his country.

Operation Pluto, as the assassination and ensuing invasion was deemed, had the heavy backing of Vice President (and presidential candidate) Richard M. Nixon. Nixon wanted the overthrow of Castro and the taking back of Cuba to happen before October of 1960 in order to give the administration a major victory before the election in November. The original plan was to use specially trained Cuban exiles to go in and kill Castro, but the administration also wanted to hire some professionals too, to make sure they got the desired results.

After being contacted by the CIA, Maheu and Rosselli met at the Brown Derby restaurant in L.A. Surrounded by Hollywood people pitching film scripts, Maheu pitched the idea of political assassination. Rosselli was initially reluctant to the idea, but after Maheu compared Castro to Hitler and talked about how the mission was necessary to protect the country, Rosselli agreed. Rosselli figured that not only was he doing he doing a service for his country, but also if his organized crime friends ever needed a little help, the government would be in their debt. Maheu was also authorized to offer the mob $150,000 to do the job, but Rosselli insisted that they would do it for free.

Rosselli took the plan back to his partners in Chicago, who tentatively OK'ed the plan. The other bosses were interested because, with Castro gone, the mob could reopen the casinos they controlled in Cuba. Sam Giancana was especially interested in the deal, reportedly declaring "We'll have the fucking government by the ass." Rosselli and Giancana flew to Miami where they met Maheu and officially agreed to the deal. The trio also welcomed to their inner circle Santo Trafficante, the mob boss of Miami, thanks to his contacts with anti-Castro dissidents in Cuba. The men began trolling the streets of "Little Havana" seeking Cuban exile accomplices. The mob needed to find a man that they could sneak into Cuba and poison Castro with special pills that had been provided to them by the CIA.

CONTINUED...

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1280206



Thank you for everything, Solly Mack.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:35 PM
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16. No - Thank you, Octafish!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:57 PM
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27. It makes you wonder what the people in Hollywood know...
Do you ever wonder about some of the timing of the movies. Pearl Harbor released just before 9/11......Minority Report was the endorsement of Bush's Premptive War Doctrine. It's like some people in Hollywood have crystal balls.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 06:33 PM
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29. The CIA has an "entertainment/publication" liason
https://www.cia.gov/offices-of-cia/public-affairs/index.html#FilmIndustry
Publications & Film Industry Liaison
"Spy" movies, novels, and documentaries about intelligence were popular throughout the Cold War, and still are around the world. Our Publications and Film Industry Liaison officer responds to questions from authors writing books about CIA, and to film and television production companies working on projects about the Agency.

While protecting classified topics, the Liaison officer provides advice and guidance to authors, screenwriters, directors, and producers who request information and insight into the world of foreign intelligence gathering--from clandestine and analytic tradecraft, to photography of the CIA Headquarters compound.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:53 AM
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41. MONGOOSE is the more commonly-known codeword for the Cuban Operation
At the center of that was another Mob figure, Meyer Lansky, the true brains of organized crime in America. It was Lansky's decision at the end of World War Two to make two dramatic changes: 1) take the Mob "legit", and launder Mafia money through legalized gambling (it was Lansky West Coast proteges who founded the Vegas gambling empire and who ran the Havana casinos); and 2) align the Mob with the GOP, which Lansky thought more powerful because the Republicans controlled the majority of federal judges in the country. Also, the head of the country's emerging centralized intelligence apparatus, the Dulles Brothers, were key players within the Republican Party.

Here's some more on Lansky and Cuba:http://www.fsu.edu/~crimdo/faculty/waddell/fifteen.html

Lansky first went to Havana in 1938 at the invitation of Batista, for the purpose of cleaning up the cheating in the gambling industry there. He did. Two big operations: Gran Casino Nacional and Nacional Hotel. Lansky took over gambling in the Hotel, which was owned by a subsidiary of Pan Am airlines. Havana Convention 1946, called by Luciano and Lansky. Frank Sinatra attended along with all the bosses; Frank took a gift to Lucky, a gold cig lighter inscribed To my Dear pal Lucky, from his friend, Frank Sinatra; Sinatra was there to provide cover for the bosses they said they went to hear him perform. Among other things at the meeting, they discussed and voted on the question of whether or not to withdraw from the narcotics trade Luciano want ed them to, but he and his pals were voted down. The final decision was that each family was to decide individually what their policy was. Batista, dictator of Cuba on and off since 1933, and Lansky had a long standing friendship from Prohibition days when Batista supplied molasses for rum to Lansky. Lansky built his own hotel and casino, the Riviera, opened in 1957, less than 2 years before Batista lost power to Castro on New Year's Day 1959. Batista called Lansky before he fled. Lansky stayed behind to take care of the guests at his Riviera; he cooked himself in the kitchen while his (second) wife, Teddy, mopped floors; she was horrified when the commoners started coming in, because they brought their pigs with them into her gorgeous hotel.

US newspapers printed story that Lansky had fled, which made Lansky mad, because he was due to appear in Washington to answer some questions and he had been real good about keeping informed about his whereabouts, and he was concerned that if the FBI read that he had fled, they would get mad at him; he called the FBI in Miami and chatted with them about it. He left 9 days later, but left some men behind to offer Castro the same deal, the same cut of the profits that Batista had enjoyed; Castro threw his men into jail, and allowed the populace to come into the hotels and trash everything. Castro nationalized the hotel industry, and closed the casinos and Lansky was out several million dollars. The hotel had cost $14.8 mil to build, about $6 of which was put in by Batista, the rest by Lansky and his friends. He lost everything. Lansky's brother Jake was arrested, as was Santo Trafacante, Jr. of Tampa; Trafacante may have formed an alliance with Castro at the time, which paid off for Castro when the Bay of Pigs invasion took place in 1961. However, Trafacante played both options and had a man with a fortune in gold waiting in Nassau, to start up gambling immediately if the invasion was a success.

Fighting Castro: The mob and the CIA.

Main character in the mess was Sam Giancana: 1908-1975 snarling, sarcastic, ill tempered, sadistic psychopath. Nickname Mooney rhymes with looney, or Momo. Had something in common with JFK: Judith Exnor. Chosen by Accardo to be Boss with regular meetings to receive orders. Loud and flashy, hobnobbed with the stars like Phyllis McGuire and Frank Sinatra. Operation Mongoose, a plot to assassinate Castro, was included Giancana, Lansky, Johnny Roselli, Trafacante, Howard Hughes. Tales told to keep the CIA happy: just as their boat was landing on Cuba, the Cuban army came out of the bushes and shot the boat out from under them. Repeatedly. CIA gave them poison for Castro, flushed it down the toilet. They were just in it for the money. Eventually the CIA wised up and ended the project. Mobsters took what they had learned about the casinos to Las Vegas.

They made their first moves in the west in the middle 1930s, when Johnny Roselli (of Mongoose fame) went to Hollywood to represent Chicago. He took over the movie production industry by taking over the extras so necessary for filming. He was very popular, even if he did cheat at cards (peep holes in ceiling so that buddies could look at cards, and signal Johnny through a device of some kind worn around the waist; cheated Zeppo Marx once. Mickey Cohen and Jack Dragna battled for control over LA, but both lost out to the eastern invasion from Chicago and NYC. Dragna's men tried to hit Cohen 5 times: dynamited his house, but it was concrete slab and the blast went down and sideways, trashing the neighborhood but not hurting Cohen and his family. They tried another way to blow up the house but it didn't detonate. They shot at him leaving a restaurant, but he bent over to look at a scratch on his car just as the shots went off, and he wasn't touched. And so on. He died of natural causes in 1976 (b. 1913), after serving a little time in prison for tax evasion. When he was released, he went straight. Dragna (born in Corleone, Sicily) A very weak boss, unable to consolidate power, unable to resist the eastern invasion. Luciano, from jail, warned him not to mess with Buggsy when Bug moved out there during WWII. Cohen was Bugs' man. Mickey Cohen and Jack Dragna battled for control over LA, but both lost out to the eastern invasion from Chicago and NYC. Dragna's men tried to hit Cohen 5 times: dynamited his house, but it was concrete slab and the blast went down and sideways, trashing the neighborhood but not hurting Cohen and his family. They tried another way to blow up the house but it didn't detonate. They shot at him leaving a restaurant, but he bent over to look at a scratch on his car just as the shots went off, and he wasn't touched. And so on. He died of natural causes in 1976 (b. 1913), after serving a little time in prison for tax evasion. When he was released, he went straight. Las Vegas: Lansky sent a man out there in 1941 and provided the seed money for to build a small

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:11 PM
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6. K&R
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:16 PM
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8. Thirty years from now the CIA will release what they were
doing in the 90's and 2000-2030. This is dirty laundry to soften up the public for the time when their "Rendition" actions leak out.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:44 PM
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33. FBI Memo to Attorney General - SUBJECT: The Johnny Rosselli Matter
The pukes want to pin gangster-stuff on the Kennedy Brothers.

That doesn't jibe with the facts.

Nixon, Dulles and the BFEE crowd were the ones with the Mafia Outreach Program.



FBI Memo to Attorney General

May 22, 1962

SUBJECT: The Johnny Rosselli Matter:

1. In August 1960 Mr. Richard Bissell approached the then Director of Security, Colonel Sheffield Edwards, to determine if the Office of Security had any assets that may assist in a sensitive mission requiring gangster-type action. The mission target was Fidel Castro.

2. Because of its extreme sensitivity, only a small group was knowledgeable of the project. The DCI was briefed and gave his approval. Colonel J.C. King, Chief, Western Hemisphere Division, was briefed, but all details were concealed from any of the JMWAVE officials. Certain TSD and Communications personnel participated in the initial planning stages but were not witting of the purpose of the mission.

3. Robert Maheu, a cleared source of the Office of Security was contacted, briefed generally on the project, and requested to ascertain if he could develop an entree into gangster elements as the first step toward accomplishing the desired goal.

4. Mr. Maheu advised that he had met one Johnny Rosselli on several occasions while visiting Las Vegas. Maheu knew Rosselli only casually through clients but had been given to understand that Rosselli was a high ranking member of the Syndicate and controlled all of the ice making machines on the Strip. Maheu reasoned that, if Rosselli was in fact a member of the clan, he undoubtedly had connections leading into Cuban gambling.

5. Maheu was asked to approach Rosselli, who knew Maheu as a personal relations executive handling domestic and foreign accounts. Maheu was to tell Rosselli that he had recently been retained by a client who represented several international business firms which were suffering heavy financial losses in Cuba as a result of Castro's action. These firms were convinced that Castro's removal was the answer to the problem and were willing to pay a price of $150,000 for its successful accomplishment. It was to be made clear to Rosselli that the United States Government was not and should not become aware of this operation.

6. The pitch was made to Rosselli on September 14, 1960, at the Hilton Plaza Hotel in New York City. Mr. James O'Connell, Office of Security, was present during this meeting and was identified to Rosselli as an employee of Maheu. O'Connell actively served as Rosselli's contact until May 1962 at which time he phased out due to an overseas assignment. Rosselli's initial reaction was to avoid getting involved, but through Maheu's persuasion he agreed to introduce him to a friend, Sam Gold, who knew the Cuban crowd. Rosselli made it clear that he would not want any money for his part, and he believed that Gold would feel the same way. Neither of these individuals were ever paid out of Agency funds.

7. During the week of September 25, 1960, Maheu was introduced to Gold at the Fontainebleau Hotel, Miami Beach. During this meeting Maheu also met an individual identified as "Joe" who was supposedly a courier operating between Havana and Miami. Several weeks later Maheu saw photographs of both of these individuals in the Sunday Supplemental Parade. They were identified as Momo Salvatore Giancana and SANTOS TRAFFICANTE. Both were on the list of the Attorney Generals ten most wanted men. Giancana was described as the Chicago Chieftain of the Cosa Nostra and successor to Al Capone. TRAFFICANTE was identified as the Cosa Nostra boss of Cuban operations. Maheu called this office immediately upon ascertaining this information.

8. In discussing the possible methods of accomplishing the mission, Sam suggested that they not resort to firearms but that he be furnished some type of potent pill that could be placed in Castro's food or drink. Gold indicated that he had a perspective nominee in the person of Juan Orta, a Cuban official who had been receiving kickback payments for a gambling interest and who still had access to Castro and was still in a financial bind.

9. TSD was requested to produce six pills of high lethal content which were then delivered to Orta by Joe. After several weeks of reported attempts, Orta apparently got cold feet and asked out of the assignment. He suggest another candidate who made several attempts without success.

10. Joe then indicated that Dr. Anthony Varona, one of the principal officers in the Cuban exile junta, had become disaffected with the apparent ineffectual progress of the junta and was willing to handle the mission through his own resources. Varona asked that he be given $10,000 for his organization expenses and requested $1,000 worth of communications equipment. Dr. Varona's potential was never fully exploited as the mission was canceled shortly after the Bay of Pigs episode. Varona was advised the offer was withdrawn, and the pills were retrieved.

11. Of significant interest was an incident which involved a request levied by Sam upon Maheu.

At the height of the project negotiations, Gold expressed concern about Dan Rowan who he learned was (Deleted). Gold asked Maheu to put a bug in Rowan's room to determine the extent of Rowan's relationship with Phyliss McGuire. The technician involved in the assignment was discovered in the process, arrested and taken to the Sheriff's Office for questioning. He called Maheu in the presence of Sheriff's personnel and informed him that he had been detained. Subsequently the Department of Justice announced its intention to prosecute Maheu along with the technician. On February 27, 1962 the Director of Security briefed the then Attorney General Robert Kennedy on the circumstances leading up to Maheu's involvement in the wiretap. At our request, prosecution was dropped.

12. In May 1962 Mr. William Harvey took over as Rosselli's case officer and it was not known if he was used officially from that point on. It was subsequently learned from the FBI that Rosselli had been convicted on six counts involving illegal entry into the United States some time during November 1967. On December 2, 1968 Rosselli, along with four other individuals, was convicted of conspiracy to cheat members of the Friar's Club of $400,000 in a rigged gin rummy game. Mr. Harvey reported his contacts with Rosselli to this office during November and December 1967 and January 1968. Rosselli was facing deportation at that time but felt he could win an appeal.

<13>. On November 17, 1970, Mr. Maheu called James O'Connell, Rosselli's first case officer, to advise that Maheu's attorney, Ed Morgan, had received a call from Thomas Waddin, Rosselli's attorney, who stated that all avenues of appeal had been exhausted and Rosselli faced deportation. Waddin indicated that if someone did not intercede on Rosselli's behalf, he would make a complete expose of his activity with the Agency. On November 13, 1970, Mr. Helms was briefed on this latest development and it was decided that the agency would not in any way assist Rosselli. Maheu was advised of the Agency's position and was in complete agreement. He stated that he was not concerned about any publicity as it affected him personally should Rosselli decide to tell all. Subsequently Rosselli, or someone on his behalf, furnished Jack Anderson details of the operation. Anderson wrote two columns regarding this operation on January 13, 1971, and February 23, 1971. Rosselli was last known to be in the Federal Penitentiary in Seattle, Washington.

On May 9, 1962, Attorney General Robert Kennedy was advised by the CIA that Robert Maheu had been hired to approach Sam Giancana regarding an assassination plot against Fidel Castro. "Mr. Kennedy stated that upon learning CIA had not cleared its action in hiring Maheu and Giancana with the DOJ he issued orders that the CIA should never again take such steps with first checking with the DOJ."

SOURCE: http://www.jfklancer.com/cuba/FBIMemo_Maheu-Roselli.html



The above is an official FBI document.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:23 PM
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9. I keep wondering what the motive is for this release....
they may be softening us up but they may be getting back at the old guard. So many people have left and been replaced by Bushbots. Maybe there's a war between two factions within the agency.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 03:45 PM
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11. Me too. I imagine Octafish has his own ideas, but the only thing
I can think of is that they're using it to camouflage and distract from other stuff in the news. :shrug:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:01 PM
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12. well, I just skimmed thru part one. it's pretty boring...
They hired someone to kill Castro. They gave technical equipment to the DC cops to watch war protesters. They improved security for RAND after the Ellsberg affair. They spied on Jack Anderson because he got the story about Castro from the would-be-assassin, who was in prison in Washington state. they started some kind of drug enforcement activity that sounds kinda interesting but they didn't give much details. They loaned money to the State department to pay for a Johnson trip. They listed the prices of equipment. They say Robert Kennedy is approving alot of this. Maybe that's the point. So far it looks more like the family vacation photos then the family jewels.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:56 PM
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34. CIA Nominee Hayden Linked to MZM
The top dogs are political appointees. Bush seems to pick only corrupt ones.

Case in point is DCI Porter "Operation 40" Goss, who quit just as the "Duke" Cunningham - Dusty Foggo - Mitchell Wade story was hitting the front pages.

These modern shenanigans that seem to have dropped of the Lamestream Media Radar:



EXCLUSIVE: CIA Nominee Hayden Linked to MZM

By Justin Rood - May 8, 2006, 11:33 AM

While director of the National Security Agency, Gen. Michael V. Hayden contracted the services of a top executive at the company at the center of the Cunningham bribery scandal, according to two former employees of the company.

Hayden, President Bush's pick to replace Porter Goss as head of the CIA, contracted with MZM Inc. for the services of Lt. Gen. James C. King, then a senior vice president of the company, the sources say. MZM was owned and operated by Mitchell Wade, who has admitted to bribing former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham with $1.4 million in money and gifts. Wade has also reportedly told investigators he helped arrange for prostitutes to entertain the disgraced lawmaker, and he continues to cooperate with a federal inquiry into the matter.

King has not been implicated in the growing scandal around Wade's illegal activities. However, federal records show he contributed to some of Wade's favored lawmakers, including $6000 to Rep. Virgil Goode (R-VA) and $4000 to Rep. Katherine Harris (R-FL).

Before joining MZM in December 2001, King served under Hayden as the NSA's associate deputy director for operations, and as head of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency.

King worked at NSA Headquarters in Ft. Meade, Maryland, in 2004 and 2005, both sources told me. "King was out there working on same floor as Hayden," one former employee with firsthand knowledge of the arrangement said. "He was doing special projects for Hayden as an MZM employee." Neither former employee knew details of King's work for Hayden; one said he thought he was doing "special projects" for the director, while the other speculated it was "high-ranking advisory work."

SNIP...

As an MZM employee, King was involved in a number of controversial projects. In 2002, he was a key adviser to the team creating CIFA, the Pentagon's domestic surveillance operation. In 2004, he was one of three MZM staffers who worked on the White House Robb-Silberman Commission, which recommended expanding CIFA's powers.

NSA is home to its own controversial project, of course -- the post-9/11 warrantless domestic wiretapping operation known as the "terrorist surveillance program." There is no indication that King has been involved in that project.

CONTINUED...

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000581.php



The worker bees used to all be players and survivors of the meritocracy. Even that has changed under Bushco, as evidenced by the complete politicization of the Department of Justice.

DCI Hayden has been loyal to a fault, supporting whatever initiatives BushCo parlays. He is as squeaky clean as any Bushfellah.

Perhaps he only seems to be one of Them, making him really one of the good guys. Seriously doubt it, though.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:15 PM
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14. Part two is about a paper called "Restless Youth"
They report was in two parts. The full report only went to 9 readers. They say a copy may be in the Johnson library.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:40 PM
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35. Operation CHAOS: The CIA War Against the 60s Counter-Culture from Monterey to Altamont
Thank you, Joanne98. Truly appreciate the heads-up.

What we're learning about is just the tip of the iceberg.

Restless Youth was their program to manipulate the young masses.

From Mae Brussell:



From Monterey Pop to Altamont

OPERATION CHAOS

The CIA's War Against the Sixties Counter-Culture


by Mae Brussell, November 1976
(unpublished)

II THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE
III THE ENEMY
IV THE BATTLEGROUND
V THE FINALE...Helter Skelter, Gimme Shelter


I DEATH, DRUGS, AND DEPRESSION

American and British pop/rock music during the 60's created an art form that has been described as one of the most important cultural revolutions in history.

Within a few years, between 1968 and 1976, many of the most famous names associated with this early movement were dead. Mama Cass Elliott (earlier with the Mamas and Papas), Jimi Hendrix, Otis Redding, Brian Jones (helped form the Rolling Stones with Mick Jagger and Keith Richards), Janis Joplin were all at the Monterey Pop celebration, summer 1967.

Duane Allman Berry Oakley (helped form Allman group with Duane and Gregg Allman), Tim Buckley, Jim Croce, Richard Farina, Donald Rex Jackson (road manager for Grateful Dead) Michael Jeffery (Jimi Hendrix' personal manager), Brian Epstein (Beatles manager), Al Jackson (drummer for Wilson Pickett, back-up drummer for Otis Redding), Vinnie Taylor (Sha-Na-Na) Paul T. Williams (choreographer for the Temptations, and one of the original Temptations), Clarence White (Byrds), Robbie McIntosh (drummer Average White Band), Jim Morrison (Doors), Pamela Morrison (Jim's wife), Rod McKernan "Pig Pen" (Grateful Dead), Phil Ochs, Gram Parsons (Byrds, Flying Burritos, International Submarine Band, singing with Emmylou Harris), Sal Mineo, Meredith Hunter (victim of ritual killing at Altamont Festival), Steve Perron (lead singer of Children, wrote hit songs for ZZ TOP), and Jimmy Reed (influenced many groups, combined harmonica with guitar) were a few possible victims.

Family and friends accepted the musicians depressions or accidents as having to do with alcohol, drug usage, or both. Was anything added to their beverages or drugs to cause personality changes and eventual suicides?

Almost every death was shrouded with unanswered questions and mystery.

Persons around the musicians had strange backgrounds and were often suspect.

All of these musicians were at the peak of a creative period and success at the time they were offered LSD. Their personalities altered drastically. Optimism and gratification were replaced with doubt and misery.

Why would young people with so much talent and influence as Phil Ochs, Janis Joplin, Gram Parsons, or Brian Jones wallow in suffering, self doubt, and despondency? They were all loved, doing important contributions to their concerts and compositions, cutting new records, recognized for their talent. It just doesn't make sense.

Jimi Hendrix, Mama Cass Elliott, Steve Perron choking from their vomit? I doubt it!!

Phil Ochs just happened to be touring Africa when a native "robber" jumped after him and cut his throat so that it affected his singing? The most political symbol of protest against the war in Vietnam, songwriter for Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, and many others, is selected from millions of U.S. tourists for assault to his vocal chords. Incredible!!

Way back in 1966 the American Broadcasting Co. was planning to merger with International Telephone and Telegraph Co.(ITT). ABC had put aside $100,000 advance for the first television special by writer-poet Bob Dylan. The production was to climax the season.
On Saturday, July 30, 1966, Bob Dylan had a motorcycle accident. Dylan never got on the air, and ABC never merged with ITT. The merger required a lack of protest from the Antitrust Division of the Justice Department. No comment. By now you know what I am thinking!!!

In addition to Dylan, Stevie Wonder, Eric Clapton, and the Dave Mason band, many others suffered near fatal accidents.

The nine years in which the musicians allegedly overdosed, drank themselves to death, drove over cliffs, hung themselves, choked, crashed their motorcycles, went insane, or freaked out without any reasonable explanation, were the same years that the FBI and CIA waged a domestic war against any kind of dissent.

CONTINUED...

http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Operation%20Chaos.html



A fellah I knew who worked in this line of government work said the iceberg analogy isn't adequate.

According to him, we only see about one-percent of what They do.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:38 PM
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17. Here is a list of accusations coming from the other side..
Operation Chaos: The CIA's War Against the Sixties Counter-Culture

http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Operation%
20Chaos.html

They haven't mentioned this stuff. They must have forgot.

:sarcasm:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:48 PM
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18. Has the CIA confessed to complicity in Heroin & Cocaine
trafficking?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:15 PM
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19. No. But there's a letter about a "Heroin Study" in part three
It's vague.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:17 PM
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20. What's Dick Ober's machine program? I googled it and got nada!
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 05:22 PM by Joanne98
Doc ID 1451843 paragraph 6

I do know know if this is a fair assumption, but Dick Ober's machine program is not handled in the Clandestine Service.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 06:00 PM
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28. Ober coordinated the SOG(Special Operations Group ) program
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 06:08 PM by Solly Mack
for detailing the anti-war press etc (which expanded, under Ober, to investigating/infiltrating) - later renamed MHCHAOS


then Ober was appointed to the Intelligence Evaluation Committee
The IEC reported to John Dean



did that help?

edit

looking for link

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/churchfinalreportIIIi.htm

church report
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 06:42 PM
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31. Yes thanx!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:21 PM
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21. Here's the reason for this release:
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 05:26 PM by dotcosm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:39 PM
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22. THOSE are the Crown Jewels.
Hunt.
Shackley.
The Cubans.
Maheu.
Hughes.
The Secret Team.
Hoover.
Nixon.
The Bay of Pigs Thing.
Dulles.
Prescott Bush.
Harriman.
The Secret Government.
George HW Bush.
The Texans.

The War Party.

Dallas.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:43 PM
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23. HAL-LO!!!
:hi::loveya::hi:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 12:04 AM
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38. CIA De-Classifies Undercover Operations in CHILE
Hermana! Courtesy of Brother Wayne, why Henry Kissinger could think to say:

"The illegal we do immediately.
The un-Constitutional takes a little longer."





CIA DECLASSIFIES ITS UNDERCOVER OPERATIONS IN CHILE

By Mike Hager
santiagotimes.cl

(June 25, 2007) CIA Director Michael Hayden announced last week the release of a 693 page internal report detailing illegal activities the agency carried out between 1950 and 1970. The report includes new information concerning the CIA’s involvement in the 1973 coup that ousted Salvador Allende, then Chile’s socialist president.

The report is known within the agency as “The Family Jewels” and was commissioned in 1973 by the then Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) James R. Schlesinger after the Watergate scandal. It reportedly links the CIA to assassination plots on Chilean Gen. Rene Schneider and lays bare the relationship between the International Telephone and Telegraph (ITT) and the United States government in destabilizing Allende’s governement.

In a 1975 meeting DCI William Colby showed the report to President Gerald Ford and said it was a compilation of “things we should not do.” Colby talked to the president of assassination plans for foreign leaders like Fidel Castro and Patrice Lumumba during which he mentioned Gen. Schneider.

Schneider was head of the Chilean military when Allende’s government won elections in 1970, and although opposed to Allende, he strictly opposed any military involvement in Chile’s political process, as was desired by many right wing groups. Schneider was killed in a botched abduction attempt in October, 1970, creating a somber atmosphere just days before Allende assumed power.

Colby also told Ford in the meeting, “We have another rather dirty problem: after Congress investigated ITT, they said our testimony was not clean. I don’t think we did anything chargeable, but we did skirt the abyss on some cases. There’s an old rule that dictates those who protect their sources can bend the rules.”

CONTINUED...

http://www.tcgnews.com/santiagotimes/index.php?nav=story&story_id=14085&topic_id=15



"Bend the rules" to protect sources (please add: "and methods") means lie and obstruct justice to keep things going.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:51 PM
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24. You could be right!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:51 PM
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25. I hesitated clicke on this due to its title. Am glad I did. thanks
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:54 PM
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26. A whole lot of nothing...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:54 PM
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36. New documents link Kissinger to two 1970s coups
You're welcome, uppityperson.

Here's a bit more from the Family Jewels that I bet my paper will miss later this morning:



New documents link Kissinger to two 1970s coups

Release of CIA’s ‘Family Jewels’ provides insight into political juggernaut and Bush Administration adviser


06/26/2007 @ 11:29 am
Filed by Larisa Alexandrovna and Muriel Kane

Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger pushed for the 1974 Turkish invasion of Cyprus and allowed arms to be moved to Ankara for an attack on that island in reaction to a coup sponsored by the Greek junta, according to documents and intelligence officers with close knowledge of the event.

SNIP...

Kissinger, Rumsfeld, and Cheney, then and now

Though no longer a government official, Kissinger remains a powerful force in Washington – particularly within the Bush Administration. Dr. Kissinger was the first choice by President Bush to lead a blue ribbon investigation into the attacks of September 11, 2001. However, he resigned shortly after the 9/11 Family Steering Committee had a private meeting with him at his Kissinger and Associates Inc. New York office and asked him point blank if he had any clients by the name of Bin Laden.

According to Monica Gabrielle, who lost her husband Richard in the attacks and who was present as part of the 12-member 9/11 Family Steering Committee during the private meeting, the White House seems to have overlooked Dr. Kissinger's apparent conflict of interest.

SNIP...

After Helms left the CIA in 1973 to become ambassador to Iran, he offered a series of vague denials when asked about CIA involvement in Chile. Among Helms' claims were "that the CIA hadn't given money directly to Allende's opponents, that the CIA didn't try to fix the vote in the Chilean Congress because investigation had shown it couldn't be arranged, that the CIA didn't try to overthrow the Chilean government because the Agency failed to find anyone who could really do it."

SNIP...

However, in Prelude to Terror, historian Joseph Trento offers a somewhat different account of Helms' actions, suggesting a deeper Kissinger involvement.

"From Iran, Helms heard enough about the criminal investigation to issue a threat through his old colleague Tom Braden,” Trento writes. “Braden remembered Helms saying, 'If I am going to be charged, then I will reveal Kissinger's role in these operations.'" Trento adds in a footnote that "Helms himself confided to old friend and CIA colleague (from Iran) Tom Braden that he would resort to (revealing embarrassing state secrets) and 'bring down Henry Kissinger' in the process."

Even apart from Trento's assertions, Kissinger's concern with "the Chilean thing -- that is not in any report" hints at involvement in the 1973 coup. But if Trento's claims are accurate, Kissinger might also have been referring to a threat by Helms to bring him down, both in his remark that "Helms said all these stories are just the tip of the iceberg. If they come out, blood will flow," and in his cryptic description of "the Chilean thing" as "sort of blackmail on me."

CONTINUED...

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Intelligence_officers_confirm_Kissinger_role_in_0626.html



Kissinger seems to turn up whenever needed by the Emperor.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:57 PM
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37. THEY just beam him in to wherever he is needed.
¡Órale carnal! :hi:



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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 12:20 AM
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39. Comparing today's tactics with those used in the past
"Hiss gurgle braap!"



I smell sulphur.



Comparing today's tactics with those used in the past

By Scott Shane
Wednesday, June 27, 2007

WASHINGTON: When the Central Intelligence Agency took a nervous look at its past in 1973, one potential illegal act officials identified was the treatment of a KGB officer named Yuri Nosenko. After fleeing to the United States in 1964, Nosenko was held in a makeshift jail for three years and subjected to tough questioning to determine whether he was a genuine defector or a plant.

A CIA document released Tuesday said officials "became increasingly concerned with the illegality of the agency's position in handling a defector under these conditions for such a long period of time." So Nosenko was moved to a more comfortable safe house, given friendlier treatment and felt "no bitterness" about his experience after he resettled with a new wife, said the 1973 memorandum recounting the case.

In an era when secret CIA detentions have become a mainstay of the news, the comparison is hard to avoid. Since 2002, the agency has jailed nearly 100 suspected terrorists overseas and subjected some of them to far harsher interrogations than Nosenko's. The program is not seen as an agency lapse, and instead has been vigorously defended by CIA officials and President George W. Bush.

Comparisons between different historical eras are always tricky. With an incomplete account of CIA misdeeds in its first quarter century from the so-called family jewels, released this week with many redactions, and a presumably even more incomplete knowledge of the spy agencies' actions since 2001, such a comparison is inevitably flawed.

But it is also irresistible. And it raises a provocative question: do the actions of the intelligence agencies in the era of Al Qaeda, which include domestic eavesdropping without warrants, secret detentions and interrogations arguably bordering on torture, already match or even eclipse those of the Vietnam War period?

CONTINUED...

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/27/america/27assess.php



"Chimpy, you get an 'F'."



¡Hermano!

Bueno leerte, Compay.

¿En la lucha?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 12:50 AM
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40. Si, por supuesto.
Huey puta! Todavía huele a azufre aquí.



:hi:

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 06:40 PM
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30. Restless Youth
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/reports/1989/DKG.htm
In 1967, President Johnson requested a detailed study be
done on the "Restless Youth". This was due to President
Johnson's suspicions that a conspiracy of some sort lie behind
the unrest in Newark, New Jersey and Detroit, Michigan. He was
convinced, by his own feelings and by J. Edgar Hoover, Dean Rusk
and Walt Rostow, that North Vietnam, Cuba and the Soviet Union
were not only supporting, but somehow directing, these types of
movements.28
The FBI during this time had also initiated a specialized
Counter Intelligence Program (COINTELPRO). Their objective was
simply the destruction, exposure and neutralization of the
Subversive groups' activities. These subversive groups included
the Communist Party, U.S.A., Socialist Workers Party, White Hate
Groups, Black Extremists, and the New Left.30 It should be
noted that even though a good deal of effort was put forth toward
domestic targets, both the CIA and FBI continued to target foreign
communist organizations and the individuals connected with them.
Additionally, the CIA was very active overseas during this
period. The Agency, through various means, attempted to
influence foreign government to be in line with a more pro-
western way of thinking. These operations took place in
Eucador, Chile, the Congo, Cuba, Greece, Laos, Peru and Vietnam.
They were in part successful and benefited the United States in
balance of power with the Soviets.
However effective the intelligence community was during
this time, a seriou problem seemed to develop when the White
House began to utilize the community as its support staff,
especially in the domestic arena. Abuses began to occur at the
direction of senior officials or by their unwillingness to
control the intelligence community. They included: President
Johnson using the FBI for purely political intelligence on
critics and political opponents; FBI warrantless wiretaps on
civic and social leaders; the National Security Agency's Watch
List Activity which targeted certain U.S. citizens; Internal
Revenue Service conducting tax investigations based on political
criteria; FBI infiltration of the Women's Liberation Movement.
and the CIA's funding of nearly 80 percent of the National
Student Association from 1952 until 1966, in order to gain
influence over activities of student organizations.31 It
seemed as though the intelligence community and the senior White
House officials took full advantage of all their opportunities.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/reports/1989/DKG.htm
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:22 AM
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42. I downloaded and read the .pdf at the link
It's just a summary of what the Office of Security did during that period. OS is just a very small part of the whole picture.

I call bullshit.
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