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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:41 PM
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Should the Vice Presidency Be Abolished?
I don't mean right now - but I *DO* mean perhaps passing a constitutional amendment to abolish the Vice Presidency and replace it with an appointed position of "First Secretary" confirmable by the Senate AND the House. By putting him or her in charge of a formal department with oversight and clearly-delineated responsibilities, we can perhaps prevent some of the abuses of power that come about by the Constitution's vagary on the position as it currently stands.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:42 PM
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1. No - If We are going to change the Const... get rid of Electoral Clg
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:00 PM
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11. Ding ding ding!!!
The electoral college is a joke, the 2000 elections proved that.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:43 PM
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2. This one should. nt
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:44 PM
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3. The " Vice Presidency ? " NO
THIS vice president ? HELL YES ! :evilfrown:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:14 PM
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17. Exactly.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:44 PM
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4. Interesting idea,a position with
a job description.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:46 PM
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5. Not the verb that comes to mind for THIS particular VP. nt
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 07:46 PM by NRaleighLiberal
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 07:50 PM
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6. Jeez, hasn't the constitution suffered enough with the republicans...
without democrats trying to cut it up too?

I think I'd like to just work within the poor thing for awhile.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:02 PM
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12. The difference being in this case that someone is proposing amendments...
to the US Constitution, not violations of the Bill of Rights.

Can't we discuss different ideas of government? What's so bad about this idea that is rises to the level of cutting it up?
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:04 PM
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13. Knock, knock
It's Agent Mike at your door...:evilgrin:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:00 PM
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9. That's a great idea.
We definitely do need some type of big overhaul in the executive branch, Cheney has really exploited some major flaws in the US Constitution to get us all here.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:00 PM
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10. Any why not, this vp has abolished the office of the prez so to
speak... what's good for the goose as they say.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:06 PM
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14. Not because of one person n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:11 PM
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15. Where one sets a precedent, many will follow.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:15 PM
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18. That's the pessimistic view. The optimistic view is that: sometimes mistakes are *learned from*.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:18 PM
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20. If there is a history of it from one to the next regardless of the party...
then you may have a point. Otherwise...no, not because of the actions of one.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:14 PM
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16. No
If you're going to start tinkering with the Constitution there are a lot more things ahead of this. The Equal Rights Amendment springs to mind.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:18 PM
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19. Why settle for the flunky? Abolish both the presidency and VP.
If we must have a government, at least a parliamentary system would give us more say over the bosses.
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