Quick quiz: Name all the horrible things Bill Clinton is responsible for!

[Nikki Stone1]

According to Guiliani, Clinton is responsible for 9/11 and Binladin.

1. 9/11
2. Binladin
3. Pre-emptive warfare (Sudan)
4. Global warming
5. Childhood obesity (he ate at McDonalds)
6. Oral sex by teenagers
7. The moral decline of Western civilization

[illinoisprogressive]

1. that is gop spin we know that. But, there is NAFTA....

[Synnical]

26. And the Telecommunications Act of 1996

Other than that, I'd rather have a Dem than a Repuke in the WH.

[MannyGoldstein]

31. And Permanent 'Free Trade' Status For China

And a total lack of political courage by both Clintons - between the two of them, they've only once ever took a politically risky stand - on HillaryCare.

[TahitiNut]

50. And blowing it on DADT and NHC.

... assuring at least two more decades of gay-bashing in the military and people going bankrupt due to illness.

[bvar22]

81. And a very flawed "Welfare Reform Act" (N/T)

*

[bvar22]

82. NOT pursuing Bush41 criminal involvement in Iran-Contra/ BCCI.

Always thought it was a bad idea to let those criminal go FREE.
NOW, most of then are back.

Expect more Bush* criminals to go FREE if another Clinton is nominated.

[rpannier]

2. Electronic surveillance...Oh wait...That was George Washington

I lurnt dat from AG Gonzalez

[Hubert Flottz]

3. He made Eve eat that apple to start with and still lies about that!

Ask him...

[rpannier]

5. I heard he really was the one who murdered Abel

He let his friend Cain take the fall.

[Nikki Stone1]

9. I forgot that. And "Dancing with the Stars." I'm sure the Big Dog is responsible for that too.

Especially the Jerry Springer episodes. :)

[Hubert Flottz]

14. He made all those animals extinct and caused Chernobyl too.

Bill put the bomp
In the bomp bah bomp bah bomp?
Bill put the ram
In the rama lama ding dong?
Bill put the bop
In the bop shoo bop shoo bop?
Bill put the dip
In the dip da dip da dip?

I think he shot Liberty Valance if the truth be knowed!

Edit...I heard he was really the one that Shit George Bush's pants in Germany the other day!

[Balderdash]

17. LOL

:headbang:

[spindrifter]

4. His two term max. ended and now we are stuck with BushCo

[flvegan]

6. Chris Benoit killing his family, PETA going after Michael Moore

Darfur, whaling and that lake in the Andes disappearing.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. The eruption of Krakatoa.

Mad cow disease.
The disappearance of Judge Crater and Jimmy Hoffa.
The heartbreak of psoriasis.
Pitbull bites.
People yakking on cell phones in restaurants.
Circumcision.
Bad fake Italian food at the Olive Garden.
Breast feeding in public.
Original sin.

The all-powerful Clenis is responsible for everything.

[Clovis Sangrail]

8. American Idol

I don't know exactly how... but I'm sure it can somehow be tracked back to the Clenis.
:hide:

[Patsy Stone]

10. I think he hid my keys.

And he let Paris' dogs run all over the neighborhood.

[BootinUp]

18. ok, I laughed. n/t

[rpannier]

67. Damn that Clinton!!!

I think yours is the funniest response.

[wryter2000]

74. He let the dogs out

The schnauzer told me so.

[Balderdash]

11. I'm sure that he had something to do with all the Paris Hilton hoopla

:smoke:

[rpannier]

15. Isn't he having an affair with Paris Hilton?

I'll have matt sludge get on that right away.

[dysfunctional press]

12. WTO, NAFTA, Telecom Act, Defense of Marriage Act, welfare "reform"...

for starters.

[EFerrari]

60. And DADT. Yeah, he's got baggage.

He's a Democrat and an attractive person and some of his policy decisions were terrible.

[dysfunctional press]

98. he's a dlc democrat...

i.e.- a republican at the core.

but it's all about media presence anymore, isn't it? and he sure knows how to work a camera, a room, and a population.

[EFerrari]

99. Bill Clinton could sell anything to anyone. He's gifted.

:)

[Skidmore]

96. All those and now he's trying to give us

Hillary.

[Hekate]

13. "Don't ask, don't tell" was a mistake;"welfare reform" had some problems;NAFTA...

...and of course a serious wardrobe malfunction connected with the naughty Clenis.

The Big Dog left me with some lingering disappointments -- but most of the really bad stuff I lay directly on the doorstep of the Gingrich Congress and their Contract On America.

Hekate

[BootinUp]

16. For just being too good of a President for all

Americans. eom

[chknltl]

19. A rise in cigar use by women.

:eyes:

[Hubert Flottz]

22. K&R

He taught Monica everything she knows about big tobacco and he taught Chocolot To Talkalot!

He invented Dicktheria and VD single handedly. He invented the housefly and cockroach.

[emilyg]

54. He-he K&R

[chknltl]

20. Freepers!

[chknltl]

21. Rush Limbaugh

[chknltl]

23. Big Hair Bands

[SeattleGirl]

25. And big hair with bumper bangs!

[SeattleGirl]

24. Let's see...the sinking of the Titanic, the American Civil War,

global warming, and the really bad car crash I was in in 2001. :P

[Patsy Stone]

43. Those shorts that aren't really shorts because they're too long

that girls wear with really high pumps and the cabbie hats. Oh, no, wait...that's Fergie from the Black Eyed Peas. I get them mixed up sometimes.

[JanMichael]

27. NAFTA and so called Welfare Reform.

Those and that gawd awful 1996 communications bill that gave the public airways to the asshole corporations.

[Uben]

28. Depends on your point of view

If you are a republican, the worst thing he did was give us eight years of booming economy, low unemployment, low crime rates, and a really bad one....he didn't get a bunch of soldiers killed in a bogus war! Then there's the horrible, horrible thing he did....left us with that damned surplus!

[liberal N proud]

29. According to the GOP - Everything since the Crucifixion of Christ

[Matsubara]

30. Lots of things, but none of those...

He was at least partially responsible for:

NAFTA
beginning of the golden age of offshoring
privatization of government functions
shifting of tax burden from progressive income tax to more regressive user fees
non-single-payer health care plan that would have put billions in the pockets of the health insurance racket
Brutal sanctions and regular bombings of Iraq that caused the starvation and deaths of tens of thousands, to which his SOS, Albright expressed total indifference
wishy-washy policy on gays in the military



That being said, he was HIGHLY competent as a leader, exceptionally intelligent and respected around the world. Even after his Monica scandals, his popularity remained high because of his immense charisma and the overall feeling that things were getting better.

At least we didn't have the explosion of federal debt we are seeing today. with an inhumane and exorbitantly expensive occupation of a nation that never did anything to us...

[Hubert Flottz]

32. The Clenis is the only major cause of Global Warming and

a sudden violent shifting of the Earth's polar axis of Evil! The Clenis made George, Dick, Enron and Exxon, do MANY MANY crazy assed things! He made Halliburton trade with the enemy and tried to blame it all on poor old sickly Dick Cheney.

[El Supremo]

33. Sudan? Don't you mean Kosovo?

He did try to get bin Laden in The Sudan. He blew up a manufacturing plant. But Pre-emptive war?

[Nikki Stone1]

34. The latest from the RW is that pre-emptive war is ok because the Big Dog sent a missile to the Sudan

Of course, at the time, the RW called it a "Monica Missile", but I always thought that was just jealousy. :)

[Matsubara]

39. They were mad because their 'missiles' had long since failed to take off anymore.

:crazy:

[Nikki Stone1]

47. heh heh heh....

:evilgrin:

[Matsubara]

36. I thought all he did was accidentally bomb an aspirin factory.

Embarrassing, but hardly qualifies as "pre-emptive war" (IRAQ!!!)

[Nikki Stone1]

37. Agreed. But the RW has been using it anyway to bolster their Iraqi pre-emption

...

[chknltl]

35. The internets

Tragically there are now hundreds of thousands of junkies. (Al Gore was just a VP...get over it!)

[RFKHumphreyObama]

38. Peace and prosperity

Republicans from * down and including Guliani hate those words -it goes against their philosophy of war and hate

Satire conveys the point so well

Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over'
January 17, 2001 | Issue 37•01
WASHINGTON, DC–Mere days from assuming the presidency and closing the door on eight years of Bill Clinton, president-elect George W. Bush assured the nation in a televised address Tuesday that "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over."
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

[mitchum]

40. Covering up the crimes of Poppy

[BootinUp]

44. The American people covered them up

by electing a Republican congress.

[Nikki Stone1]

46. Good point

:D

[blm]

89. Except there was a Dem congress in 93 and 94.

.

[blm]

88. Clinton facilitated the coverup in 1993 - there would've been NO GOP congress in 95 if Poppy

and his cronies were held to account on matters still outstanding when Clinton took office.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html



Editor's Note: With the Democratic victories in the House and Senate, there is finally the opportunity to demand answers from the Bush administration about important questions, ranging from Dick Cheney's secret energy policies to George W. Bush's Iraq War deceptions. But the Democrats are sure to be tempted to put the goal of "bipartisanship" ahead of the imperative for truth.

Democrats, being Democrats, always want to put governance, such as enacting legislation and building coalitions, ahead of oversight, which often involves confrontation and hard feelings. Democrats have a difficult time understanding why facts about past events matter when there are problems in the present and challenges in the future.

Given that proclivity, we are re-posting a story from last May that examined why President Bill Clinton and the last Democratic congressional majority (in 1993-94) shied away from a fight over key historical scandals from the Reagan-Bush-I years -- and the high price the Democrats paid for that decision:

My book, Secrecy & Privilege, opens with a scene in spring 1994 when a guest at a White House social event asks Bill Clinton why his administration didn’t pursue unresolved scandals from the Reagan-Bush era, such as the Iraqgate secret support for Saddam Hussein’s government and clandestine arms shipments to Iran.

Clinton responds to the questions from the guest, documentary filmmaker Stuart Sender, by saying, in effect, that those historical questions had to take a back seat to Clinton’s domestic agenda and his desire for greater bipartisanship with the Republicans.

Clinton “didn’t feel that it was a good idea to pursue these investigations because he was going to have to work with these people,” Sender told me in an interview. “He was going to try to work with these guys, compromise, build working relationships.”

Clinton’s relatively low regard for the value of truth and accountability is relevant again today because other centrist Democrats are urging their party to give George W. Bush’s administration a similar pass if the Democrats win one or both houses of Congress.

>>>>>>>

[BootinUp]

92. Makes no sense.

A President does not lead investigations of this nature anyways. I completely disagree with you and the author and you know that from our past discussions. I don't feel like rehashing them as this is common sense in my opinion.

[blm]

95. Doesn't INVESTIGATE, but he does give DOJ priorities, and can FACILITATE access to documents

sensitive to the matters that the previous officeholder withheld and stonewalled.

Iraqgate was a hot matter in 93 - Clinton could have pressured prosecutors to be tough and thorough instead of accepting plea deals that were extraordinarily beneficial to Poppy Bush and Kissinger.

[treestar]

41. A good economy, a budget surplus

And other such terrible things.

[chknltl]

42. And worse of all:

The mullet!

I shall never forgive him for causing so many of my fellow Americans Americans to be so horribly mutilated at the hands of those evil bastards at the Big Barber Industry! He should have been impeached!

[La Coliniere]

45. He should have known better, but

-NAFTA
-Telecommunications Act, which enabled the right wing corporations to dominate the airwaves with its message of, well, you know what.
-He enabled a de facto Republican "War Against the Poor", aka: Welfare Reform (reinforcing those "How dare those welfare queens buy steaks at the local Piggly-Wiggly!" notions.)
-The so-called Don't Ask - Don't Tell Policy that betrayed a whole group of folks who gave him their full support.
-an incredible lack of restraint, integrity and political savvy, vis a vis his personal behavior in the White House (he handed his enemies their ammunition against him on a silver platter). I couldn't have cared less about his screwing around, but he should've known that getting a hummer from an intern during working hours in the Oval Office wasn't going to play well in the heartland.

However, when all is said and done, I'd take this corporatist (with a small c) back as President in a heartbeat. This man was more lesser than evil in my book. And yes Virginia, there was a "vast right wing conspiracy" against him and his wife.

[ben_meyers]

48. He did put a damper

On the sexual harassment in the workplace industry. Ya gotta wonder what some of those lawyers are doing now.

[Rocknrule]

Everything from Eve's sin to Virginia Tech

[Make7]

49. Isn't he responsible for everything bad that has happened since Aug. 19, 1946?

That's what I heard anyway.

:) Make7

[DFW]

51. It is all documented in song

http://cdbaby.com/cd/freedomtoastdem
or www.thefreedomtoast.com

Listen to the free clips "Clinton is to Blame-O" or "Faluting Bill Clinton"

Blame-O:

Whatever’s wrong with this cruel world
Bill Clinton is to blame-o
It’s Bill Clinton’s fault
It’s Bill Clinton’s fault
Theft, murder or assault
Bill Clinton is to blame-o !

When Julius Caesar got the knife
Bill Clinton was to blame-o
Attila sacked old Rome
Disraeli was not home
Orphan Annie lost her comb
Bill Clinton was to blame-o

A third of mankind got the Plague
And Clinton was to blame-o
Wars and pestilence
Frankenstein’s experiments
Chewing gum went up ten cents
And Clinton is to blame-o

An earthquake rocked the ‘Frisco Bay
Bill Clinton was to blame-o
Lava destroyed Pompeii
Tidal waves washed towns away
My car had a flat today
Bill Clinton was to blame-o

The economic outlook’s bad
And Clinton is to blame-o!
So what if he did swell?
I won’t say and you won’t tell
So let’s go and yell
That Clinton is to blame-o!

Who cares what is really true?
Bill Clinton is to blame-o!
Yell, scream, spit and cuss
Go kick up a fuss
As long as it’s not us
Bill Clinton is to blame-o


BTW, Clinton heard the Blame-O song and wrote the Toast to call it "priceless!"

[alittlelark]

52. NAFTA and media consolidation are the only ones I can think of...

But they are more than enough to be pissed off at him about.

[Swamp Rat]

53. 8. Popularizing the name 'Monica'

:)

[Recursion]

55. Fleetwood Mac's revival. And NAFTA. And the AWB

[rucky]

56. Do you have any unmatched socks in your drawer?

Yep, that was Clinton.




And that darn cat of his.

[badgerpup]

57. For some reason...

...ex-partner felt he was responsible for his DUI.
:wtf:
I never did get the logic behind that one...:shrug:

Um...how about Hurricane Katrina and Mark Foley?
Yep, Clinton's fault too.

[devilgrrl]

58. NAFTA, Lani Guinier and caving to rightwing fucktards

:shrug:

[Truthiness Inspector]

59. Lying under oath

I don't care if I get flamed. As a woman who has experienced sexual harassment, this is where Clinton lost me. I also noticed the absence of NOW at the time.

I have little faith in Bill Clinton's character, and I have a major problem with anyone who would sugarcoat/whitewash it.

"Oh, he only lied under oath about sex with a subordinate in a sexual harassment suit, so what, go away you trouble-making hoochie!"

Not discounting anything else he did, but his character died that day.

[DFW]

62. I would never flame a woman who has experienced sexual harassment

And I understand your unwillingness to overlook it, but on the general world stage,
his "tragic flaw," as the ancient Greeks put it, was not enough (as opposed to Nixon)
to overshadow his otherwise upbeat presidency (also an arguable point, I realize).

I ask not that you forgive or forget the negative aspects of him, but ask that you
accept that he was far better for the country than the man who succeeded him, or the
two that preceeded him. I heard from DC at the time that N.O.W. was torn in a bout of
massive soul-searching about what position to take at the time, as the public champion
they had was perceived to be a sexist in private (I suspect it was not quite that simple,
but that's just me), and they wanted to bash the private man without touching their public
champion. It was an impossible situation for N.O.W. They couldn't very well point to Newt
Gingrich as a viable alternative.

I still perceive a coordinated effort on the part of the Republicans to blame him for
things that were not his fault, but seeing the poor offerings they have in the way of
candidates (and incumbents!), they are grasping at straws for any argument, no matter
how flimsy, to show that the mess they created is not their fault. I also think that
this was the main point of the OP, and not a plea to sweep anything else under the rug.

[Truthiness Inspector]

63. In other words, women should overlook this

would you say the same to African-Americans, etc? Just nevermind, it's for the better good!

I do understand that your post was well intentioned, so this is not meant as an attack, but PLEASE.

So what if I and others got tossed under the bus, just get on that bus and make nice. This is about his character, not his policies as President. His character stinks, and I have a problem with that.

[DFW]

65. I appreciate your effort to keep an emotional theme civil

I have no intention of asking you to re-evaluate your
judgement of his character, and I never said ignore
or forget. The OP was about blaming him for things for
which he was not responsible, but it never sought to absolve
him of that for which he was. In that respect, it had
a legitimate point, not that yours is any less so. I
think his character is more complicated than good and bad,
but I would never ask anyone affected by the bad to
forgive or forget, or get on the bus that just ran over
them, as you put it.

As a male of the species, I have never been the victim of
sexual harassment, but I have been the victim of other kinds
of harassment, and while I have come to terms with the affront,
I neither forgot nor forgave (despite decades-long entreaties),
so I know how deep certain wounds cut.

[devilgrrl]

70. Yeah, you're right, that's some serious shit and so worth the $80 million to investigate it

:eyes:

I feel safer already.

:sarcasm:

[pinto]

61. Just the end of civilization as we know it.

Oh, and his wife killed JFK, MLK, RFK and Vince Foster.

I'm sure I've missed something but Rove has me on hold.

He's on the other line with counsel.

[moondust]

64. World War II for sure.

[Hubert Flottz]

66. He almost single handedly...

Worried Jerry Foulwill into an early grave!

Thanks Bill!

[Tesha]

68. George W. Bush and the sealing of the deal for Republican domination. (NT)

[Hubert Flottz]

69. I think you're right about that.

The people bought the GOPer's dog and pony show lock stock and barrel. Bill does get some of the blame for Bush getting enough Bible Thumper votes to steal that election.

MORALITY sells. Now look at the MORALITY the Bible Thumping GOPers bought, at work in Iraq...you can see it in the faces of the little "liberated" Iraqi kids who's country and world has been blown apart forever.

[KharmaTrain]

71. Telcom '96...And This IS A Disaster...

It created the framework for the takeover of the radio, television and cable by the large corporates that drove out local voices and ownership. It created the mega-conglomerates that shove Rushbo and Hannity down our throats and continue to monopolize and destroy those media.

Revising this Act...which was supposed to have been reviewed in 2002...should be a priority for those who want to put more voices, more diversity and more Progressive voices on the radio.

[GeorgeGist]

72. For making George Bush a 'credible' candidate ...

If the Clintons had played their cards correctly, Gore would have won in a landslide.

[wryter2000]

73. Torture at Abu Ghraib

A freeper actually said that to me.

[Nikki Stone1]

75. Good Lord! By osmosis?

:eyes:

[wryter2000]

76. Get this

By eroding morality, Clinton sent the message that anything goes. They're very big on "sending messages."

I pointed out...which okays brutality? A blow job, or gleefully executing death row prisoners? Shut him up.

[Nikki Stone1]

77. So adultery leads to torture of war prisoners?

:wtf:

[wryter2000]

91. Now, you have it

:crazy:

[MissMillie]

78. Split ends, hangnails and acne

:hi:

[Catherine Vincent]

79. I'll be honest...here's one horrible thing Clinton is responsible for...

The miserable failure to the right... and he's been regretting it ever since!

[ejbr]

80. I have TWO things I can lay at his feet

1) Campaigned for the Democratic nominee in a CITY election for mayor (San Francisco), allowing the 80% of Republicans to rejoice in his win as the majority of Democrats who voted for the Green Party member were demoralized. (I do not condemn him for campaigning for a fellow Democrat, but for a fellow Democrat in a CITY race against the will of the MAJORITY of Democratic VOTERS in the city is unforgivable)

2) Did NOT campaign for Ned Lamont in Ct. SENATE race (national politics vs. municipal), again who the MAJORITY of Democratic primary and general election voters were behind. Giving Ct. Republicans another victory in Lieberman, who is now campaigning for a Maine Republican (Collins), among other things.

In sum, he is responsible for a profound betrayal to his party and those he supposedly was, at one time, elected to represent. To me, these are fuckin' HORRIBLE!

[TheTimmer]

83. As we all know

90% of the problems in this country can be directly traced to Bill Clinton, the other 10% can be *indirectly* traced to Bill Clinton. But other highlights include:

The Great Fire of London of 1666
The Chicago Fire
The San Francisco Earthquake of 1906
The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand
Nancy Grace
That dose of chicken pox I got when I was 24
The Sopranos finale

[cassiepriam]

84. I have ants in my bathroom.

I am sure it is Bill's fault.

[Zywiec]

85. Backing the UN sanctions in Iraq

that were responsible for killing more than 500,000 Iraqi children during the 90's.

[LSK]

86. I spilled my lunch 2 months ago, I know he was behind it!!!

:grr:

[JoePhilly]

87. Didn't he send Osama Bin Laden on an all expense vacation to Syria?

[Initech]

90. The GOP tries to link Clinton to everything bad that's happened in the last 40 years.

Just like 99.9% of the claims made by the GOP, approximately 0% of it is provable.

Of course, the one guy who could be linked of course is the 41st president of the United States. Bush Sr.

[Edweird]

93. 2 terms of relative peace and prosperity. Oh the horror!

[stirlingsliver]

94. Welfare "Reform"

Cutting the safety net for millions of needy people.

Also -- Remember "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"?

[taterguy]

97. Wellstoning Kurt Cobain

The man knew too much

[SalmonChantedEvening]

100. The 100 Years War

The word Picayune

The Chicago Fire

Babe Ruth being traded to the Yankees

Volcanoes

The fall of the Pharoahs

Every leap year 29

Stadium Seating

Thompson's Water Seal

The Discovery of the Wheel

[Solon]

101. Let me make a list...

1. NAFTA
2. Welfare Reform
3. DMCA
4. Don't ask, Don't tell(what a cop-out!)
5. Didn't hinder Media consolidation.
6. Caved on Health Care

OK, that's it for now, I'll think of others later on, when I had a chance to think about it.

[speakclearly]

103. You missed a couple

7. Waco
8. Ruby Ridge
9. Elian Gonzalez http://www.iht.com/articles/2000/01/14/cuba.2.t_8.php
10. Bombing Chinese Embassy

More later....

[ShortnFiery]

102. NAFTA and not fighting the De-regulation of Communication Networks.

That's plenty! No more CLINTONS - no more Dynasties period. :grr: