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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:54 PM Original message |
Juan Cole: Ahmadinejad's "threat" to "wipe Israel off the map" is gross mistranslation |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, I know |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Recommended. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. Cheney wants another war; I don't know who else does. Hopefully it |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. Recommended #3 |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. Let me save you some trouble and explain this... no one cares. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Wow! I don't want the U.S. or Iran to fuck with Israel, but I also don't |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Wow. You must be real smart. And telepathic to boot. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Oh don't get me wrong, please. I don't agree with that point of view. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. I completely agree with you. |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 07:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
34. My apologies-- without that qualifier, it appeared that your post |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. ...Ah, so people act as if it's I/P if they expect a post to be moved there? |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Now I'm confused. My response would have been the same wherever without your qualifier. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Okay. Just for the record... |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Uh, clearly this is an issue that does not involve me. It is like |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. ...Uh that's fine. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
56. You misunderstood him |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. I think we're cool on that now, thank you. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. well excuuuuuuuuuuse me |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Um, I'm sorry... did I offend you? |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Same goes for Chavez |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Ahmadinejad is not the power in Iran |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Those are inconvenient facts to enemies of Iran. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
67. Yes, demonization is required |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. The US has way more Jews than Israel eom |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Hey it's not a contest. And if it was, it'd be about quality not quantity. |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
60. This is why it matters A LOT |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
63. Shouldn't a professional translator care a bit more about the meaning of words? |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Apparently, the poster your are responding to doesn't hold those views mentioned. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
6. right -zionists? |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Point to someone in the Middle East, besides the King of Jordan (maybe) |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
76. Zionists are not extremists in their own right? |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. no one needs to demonize the iranian leader |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. This needs to be pointed out every time someone uses the |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. And this is a surprise? |
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Theduckno2 (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
14. I read his posting earlier today. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Just as the correction of "Gore invented the Internet" never caught on with the mainstream media. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
17. It is not a "gross mistranslation." |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Well, yeah, but you know, Eliminating the State of Israel's control of what he calls "occupied |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
75. Very Good retort |
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IamyourTVandIownyou (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. The creation of Israel was a mistake. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Ahmadinejad? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Mistake or not, it exists and that is the reality of the situation. |
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IamyourTVandIownyou (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Why not give them East Germany? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. You mean give the Palestinians East Germany? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Since Israel already exists, that is besides the point. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
77. So does Palestine. At least it did before it was destroyed and left in ruins. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Palestine does not exist. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Perhaps it doesn't exist to you BTA, but it most certainly does exist to the Palestinians. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. No, shance, it doesn't exist. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
68. Can it wait until the weekend? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
50. Actually, just about everyone did |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #18 |
82. So, do you want to dismantle every country created by an influx of new people? |
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Waistdeep (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
19. Reminds me of Nikita Krushchev's "We will bury you" in 1956 |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Excellent analogy |
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speakclearly (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #19 |
46. Actually, you have it in reverse |
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Waistdeep (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. I don't think you could be more wrong. |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
26. Too late. Issue framed. Hundreds of journalists, pundits, and politicians |
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nealmhughes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
27. The President of Iran is a glorified ribbon cutter who has to have the Parl. and the Supreme Rev. |
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speakclearly (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
47. You are right! |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
30. Only 2 votes against this??? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:10 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Again, only Kucinich shows the respect for truth I want in a President. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
52. Me too and to not even allow other translations to be put in the |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
70. well, when the truth-bearer doesn't have those salesperson looks |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Yeah... I mean gee, couldn't he look more like Ted Bundy? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. disgusting is putting it mildly |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #30 |
49. So it's "merely" an American-style regime change |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Even the MEMRI translation speaks of regime change, why |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
33. kick |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
36. This poor guy,Ahmadinejad gets misquoted monthly. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Swede, you clearly did not read the OP. |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. He says this monthly,yet every time it gets misquoted. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. When was the last time he said it? |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Try google. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. What specifically did you Google? |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. but reporting something half a million times doesn't mean he said it half a million times |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
44. Let me understand... |
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speakclearly (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
45. Just curious |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. I won't deny that he is anti-Semitic. (I can't speak for Juan Cole.) |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
66. Welcome to DU! That's a solid argument right there. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
48. A voice of sanity from someone who SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
51. I don't think there's so much difference between 'wiping off the map' and 'forcible regime change' |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
73. Excellent post. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
69. I had the same response way back when |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
84. well, on the iranian arabic language news station (alAlam), maps of the area do not show Israel. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
85. And yet again Dennis Kucinish proves he's the man with the facts, |
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