Our Dem leadership is retarded

[senseandsensibility]

Now don't get all huffy and PC on me. I mean retarded as in delayed. Their reactions to the misdeeds of this administration are years too late.

Today the threads in GD tell me that Leahy thinks this administration's lawlessness is worse than Nixon's. And apparently, Kennedy has concluded that Cheney is "breaking the law."

These would have been apt realizations years ago. I still remember a day when I would have cheered such words.

Now? They're retarded. The ONLY thing I want now is action.

[porphyrian]

1. I'm impatient, so people expect that I've jumped the gun...

...but you (and I) are exactly right on this.

[senseandsensibility]

2. Yes, we are.

To rightness!:toast: If anything, we are too patient.

[porphyrian]

4. I'll drink to that. - n/t

:toast:

[Xipe Totec]

3. Maybe I'm confused,

but I thought the 'pugs controlled the gavel until very recently.

And whoever controls the gavel, controls the investigations.


A little rough on the Democratic leadership, c'est ne pas?

[redqueen]

5. yeah... i'll go with that

anything to beat back my growing cynicism

thanks :)


*sigh*

[senseandsensibility]

6. They could have been saying the things

they're saying now long before they won the congress. Why wait until now? The facts have been there for years.

[Xipe Totec]

7. They did, but nobody paid attention

I've been saying these thing as well.

Nobody paid attention to me either.

What has changed is that people are pissed now and the gutless media is finally reporting on it.

[John Q. Citizen]

14. They have said that Iraq was a "mistake." They have said the President

"Mis-led."

What they haven't said is that Iraq was an "illegal" war and that the occupation is also "illegal."

They haven't said that bush is "A liar, and a crook!"

But hey, I'm a believer in better late than never. So I'm still waiting

[Old and In the Way]

9. You need a media willing to amplify their message.

The broadcast media has been a functioning arm of the Republican Party as long as I can remember.

[Old and In the Way]

8. Difference being, they lost control of the committees until 2006

Once we got majority control, investigations started to happen. It was the Republican Congressional majority who took a walk on their obligations to provide oversight on their Party's President.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

26. Moreover, shouldn't blame be placed squarely upon this regime and its cronies?

Aren't THEY the ones whose activities have f*cked this country?

Ummm. Yes. THEY are the ones COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE for committing fraud against our nation, basically embezzling our national treasure and utilizing human blood to gain power and violating the rule of law and every notion of decency in a democratic state.

So, I say, BLAME MUST BE PLACED SQUARELY UPON THIS REGIME AND ITS CRONIES.

That's my position and I am sticking to it!!!

[AndreaCG]

10. I agree to the extent that the R minority

Is throwing sticks in the cogs of the wheels. The Ds never found a way to do that when they were the minority. Though the Rs are starting to disagree with the Chimp's admin a little more, even ones like Lugar criticized their I raq policy one day and withdrew the substanc of the remarks the next. We don't have unanimity of purpose, for better and for worse.

[johnnydrama]

11. Conyers

Didn't Conyers interview some people about some of this junk, and the Repubs wouldn't give him a conference room, so he used the basement, or something like that.

That's how tough it was to do any real investigating.

[senseandsensibility]

12. I think one of the things that bothers me the most

is the lack of follow through. Not to mention the fact that they took impeachment off the table and tied their own hands. I'm getting to where I just look at these leaders actions, not their words. Their actions say they don't want to really rock the boat.

[lonestarnot]

13. Fuck yeah!

Action! Action NOW! RTARDS NOW!

[L. Coyote]

15. Wish we had lots more retarded Congress people like these. Don't you??

Imagine if we had 67 retards!

Meanwhile, have you organized 36 investigations, 200+ hearings, caused numerous resignations.....?????

Do tell us what you have accomplished, so we can rate you too.

[Truth2Tell]

18. It only takes ONE Senator

to SAY something.

Don't you think that even our half-dead media would've been forced sit up and pay attention if multiple U.S. Senators were stating - FLAT-OUT - that Bush is a CRIMINAL? That could've been going on for years now - with plenty to back it up. It still could.

[L. Coyote]

19. FYI, a "criminal" is someone convicted of a crime. Congress isn't DU

where anyone can say anything, true or false, without concerns like critical reasoning, not to mention having to function in a government headed by the criminals. I can say that here. Coooool!

[Truth2Tell]

21. Sorry. Wrong. A criminal is someone who COMMITS a crime.

Convicted or not.

Wiretapping of Americans without warrants is illegal. And nobody needs a conviction to SAY that.

Violating the Geneva Conventions is illegal. Don't need a conviction to SAY that.

etc, etc, etc.

[L. Coyote]

24. True, and the real distinction is in what can be said when. After conviction

there are no legal repercussions for asserting someone is a criminal, like slander, because it is a proven fact, hence not slanderous.

Unfortunately, this distinction does us little good.

[Truth2Tell]

25. To go after someone for slander

the President would need to drag the issue before a court - exactly what he does not want to do - because he would lose.

And really - the risk of such a thing would be very low if a Senator actually told the truth.

I think the reason we don't hear Senators telling the truth is because they are politically afraid of being marginalized by the MSM - not that they are afraid of slander charges.

"Truth" has moved outside the bounds of acceptable public debate and our elected Democrats have acquiesced in the move. Sad state of affairs.

[Greyhound]

20. It only would've taken one Senator to allow the contest of the vote in 2000

to go through and of 49 Democratic Senators not one of them would stand up. They sat on their hands and pretended not to see that a coup had taken place.

These are the people that are going to help us?

"I have seen the enemy, and it is us." - Pogo

[BlooInBloo]

16. Yeeaahhhh.... Because they had SOOOOO much power before 5 months ago.

[upi402]

17. Beavis as Cheney singin' "Breakin' the law, breakin' the law"

:rofl:
Sorry, just a mental image flash.

I agree, time for action.

[senseandsensibility]

22. LOL

That is funny.

[tbyg52]

23. Yeah, they couldn't *do* much about it until recently

But most of them haven't even been saying the *words* until recently. Your analysis is spot on.