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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:06 AM
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Larisa Alexandrovna: I'm Confused... Or Am I?
http://www.atlargely.com/2007/06/im-confused.html

I'm confused...Or am I?

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Let us assume that the correct, decent, honest course of action - Congressional oversight and duty to the American people - is in fact not a popular election topic, because the people may themselves not know what the correct course of action is.

Let us assume that the entire country is sipping Kool-aid to the point where they think there are WMD in Iraq and that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were best friends. Let us assume that the electorate believes that the President was appointed by God and that Ted Haggard is a straight man. Let us assume that the American people are so pathetically frightened by Karl Rove's talking points, that they are willing to burn the Constitution and anyone who defends it.

Let us assume that these things are true, how does it change the duty that members of Congress have to their oath of office and to the Constitution? Just because justice and accountability may be unpopular with the average voter does not change the fact that justice and accountability are necessary to our democracy and that the rule of law applies to everyone, equally.

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But here you have a situation where the public is in agreement with the law (the majority of the public, the rest are busy chasing kool-aid trucks or strung out on 24/7 drip of Fox News). The public is in agreement with the Constitution - amazingly despite the administration's best efforts to confuse what is legal and what is illegal. The public is in agreement with even international law, for example the Geneva Conventions. In other words, the public - the majority who are not busy cutting cocaine on the cover of one of Coulter's books - is incredibly astute and incredibly patriotic during the worst times this country has ever seen. And the public wants accountability and justice - rightfully so.

Something, anything, does not have to be popular to be the right thing, the legal thing, the Constitutionally necessary thing. In this case, however, not only is the impeachment of Dick Cheney the right thing to do, the necessary legal thing to do, the duty of anyone who has taken an oath to defend and uphold the Constitution to do. It also happens to be the popular thing to do. So I ask again, why then is the House not preparing articles of impeachment against Dick Cheney? I want one reason of sound, legal, and Constitutional judgment to defend this position - just one. Not a political reason, a Constitutional viable reason.

One cannot take impeachment "off the table" when that is the only remedy left to them in a situation such as this. I was not in support of impeachment at the time that now Speaker Pelosi said "impeachment was off the table." But it did bother me that a Congressional duty would be "put off the table" when we could not possibly know if such a remedy would be needed later. And given the revelations we are seeing pouring out about the Office of the Vice President, what is clear now more than ever, is that impeachment is a necessary tool provided by our founding fathers for a reason. In this case, the reason is Dick Cheney and with his removal, goes every mole and spy he has planted throughout every department of every agency in order to wrestle away the control of government from every form of oversight.

Anyone who does not understand what has happened over the last few weeks... what we have learned about the abuses of power committed by the Vice President and his henchmen, is not paying attention and likely still believes that the earth is flat. Yes, even journalists, whom I call flatlanders when they act as only mediators between fact and nonsense as though both had equal standing, need to come to terms with the basic facts of our current reality and tell the people the truth - that is, that Dick Cheney has committed impeachable offenses at best - and until we have a full investigation of these offenses and possible conviction in the Senate, no sense of justice or faith in our elected officials will ever be part of our national makeup again.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:11 AM
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1. A K&R for Larisa.
She's got it exactly correct.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:17 AM
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2. Go, Larissa!
K&R, even though she has ignored the 3 marriage proposals I have made by e-mail.
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:17 AM
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Many of us are just as confused
If lying about adulterous sex is a higher crime than torture, illegal war, illegal detentions, domestic spying, judicial manipulation etc. we might as well shut the bloody Congress down.

Bi-partisan cooperation, time management, taxpayer expense and odds for success are not as important as pulling our Constitution out of the filthy gutter this administration has tossed it into.

Impeach Cheney. Rove, Gonzalez, Addington & the rest of the cabal will have to scramble to keep their own butts out of the line of fire. Bush will have to deal with his Cabinet & Congress as the founding fathers intended. What a concept. I'd rather spend my taxes to save this democracy than on a bloody war in Iraq.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:17 AM
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3. damn, she's good -- knr
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:55 AM
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4. .
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 11:06 AM
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5. You go Larissa! Carry our flag! ... to answer your question, it's ALL about the money!
Edited on Thu Jun-28-07 11:07 AM by calipendence
... always has, and always will be! Except the money in politics these days trumps the will of the people! And that is our fatal flaw. It is the fascist mavens that have fattened themselves at the hands of this unprecedentedly corrupt administration that want to keep it and some facsimile of it in place for years to come! Damn Democracy in their opinion! THEY're threatening congressman, not the people, to stay "compliant"!

That is why it is ESSENTIAL in the presidential nomination process this year that we do NOT put in place a corporatist! We need to take this money out of the equation! Draft Gore for 2008 now!!
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 04:02 PM
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6. I'm confused, too. On what basis did Madame Speaker Pelosi...
...take unto herself the unilateral power to dismiss as irrelevant the strongest tool We the People have, under the Constitution, to remove tyrants from our government?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 05:30 PM
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7. awww thanks you guys!!!
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 05:51 PM
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8. Hell Fucking Yeah!!!
:yourock: :headbang: :yourock:
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 05:58 PM
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9. K and R
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 08:59 PM
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10. K&R. (nt)
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 11:40 PM
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11. "duty that members of Congress have to their oath of office"
there's the rub.

members of Congress feel no duty to their oath. they only feel a duty to their party and supposedly their constituents, but that is open to debate.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 02:59 AM
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12. It Is Pelosi's Parrots That Are Confused
Squawking along in impotence and ignorance with their False Propaganda Memes.

There's really no "investigation" needed, becaue the regime admits and "defends" their impeachable offenses.

And since the best you'll get from the Impeachophobes is a "political reason," the question becomes:

Why does "our side" get to benefit from ongoing torture?

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 03:17 AM
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13. K&R
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 06:57 AM
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14. K & R n/t
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:32 AM
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15. Big K & R !!!
:bounce::kick::bounce:
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Blue State Blues Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 08:26 AM
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16. Love this phrase about journalists
"when they act as only mediators between fact and nonsense as though both had equal standing ..."
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 09:16 AM
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17. Because it will be hard. And these are Democrats we're dealing with.
And every time we are offered a Dem with balls (Kucinich) we nice, nice folk just think he isn't so pleasant so we elect some bullshitter to do nothing.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 09:41 AM
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18. Well said, Lala

(U)ntil we have a full investigation of these offenses and possible conviction in the Senate, no sense of justice or faith in our elected officials will ever be part of our national makeup again.

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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 09:44 AM
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19. You want confusion?????
My teenager came up the other evening and during a conversation about civility and getting along she said" why should I follow the law, the president and vp don't" Now what the hell can I say to that?
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:07 AM
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20. Kickin' it back up. Beautifully stated.
:kick::kick::kick:
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