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romantico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:45 PM
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Does Cheney make $$$ from Haliburton?
Edited on Thu Jun-28-07 02:48 PM by romantico
Saw this and thought it had been debunked.

Kerry Ad Falsely Accuses Cheney on Halliburton
September 30, 2004
Contrary to this ad's message, Cheney doesn't gain financially from the contracts given to the company he once heade

http://www.factcheck.org/article261.html

Dumb question, but what am I missing? I thought he was on the board or something and did draw a salary.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:48 PM
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1. If memory serves. . .
he benefits from some sort of deferred profit sharing deal.

Ya know how he loves deferments with all of his other priorities and all.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:50 PM
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2. I thought
that his compensation package is directly tied into the profit performance of the company, well into the future...
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:51 PM
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3. I would bet everything I own against a cold cup of coffee that
they have doped out some kind of 'end run' around the regulations so he can benefit in the not too distant future from HALs contracts.
:grr:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:51 PM
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4. Of course he does.
Even if nothing were on paper, I'm sure there is a Grand Cayman account with his name on it.

And now that the headquarters have shifted to Dubai, anything goes.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:52 PM
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5. Cheney claims all profits will go to charity
and we all know how truthful he is...
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:52 PM
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6. Also, he has stock and stock options in Halliburton
His stock has skyrocketed. And if he purchases stock on those options, he makes millions immediately. So while he may not be getting direct compensation, he is profitting from them doing well.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:53 PM
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7. Bottom line
He is still getting paid. Call it stock options, a stipend, a solid gold parachute or performance-based benefits, he's still getting paid.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:57 PM
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8. and they think they'll get to take all that ill gotten loot and scram to Dubai
and Paraguay to drink Pina Colada's with Ken Lay.

Hooray for them.

Reparations are long over due methinks.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:17 PM
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12. uh, I think they'll have to have those drinks with ken lay
in hell?
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:23 PM
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I really don't think the dude is dead for some inexplicable reason.
With all he stole. . .how much would it take to bribe a coroner really. . . ?

It was just too damned convenient.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:57 PM
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9. Yes he does

Cheney is still paid by Pentagon contractor



Bush deputy gets up to $1m from firm with Iraq oil deal

Halliburton, the Texas company which has been awarded the Pentagon's contract to put out potential oil-field fires in Iraq and which is bidding for postwar construction contracts, is still making annual payments to its former chief executive, the vice-president Dick Cheney.

The payments, which appear on Mr Cheney's 2001 financial disclosure statement, are in the form of "deferred compensation" of up to $1m (£600,000) a year.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,912515,00.html
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:59 PM
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10. I feel that somehow cheney is benefitting from
halliburton. Why else so much secrecy? There is so much money to be made and so much power to accrue, from all of the privatizing in this admin. Remember "the buck stops here"?? Well it really does. The money rises to the top like hot air. Money =Power
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:02 PM
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11. PUH-LEEEEZE! Is there an iota of DOUBT?!
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:23 PM
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13. For what it's worth...
"Cheney divested himself of all interest in Halliburton, the largest U.S. oilfield services company, after the 2000 election."
http://money.cnn.com/2003/03/25/news/companies/war_contracts/index.htm
But who knows if CNN really checks it's facts

"I have totally divested myself of all of my outside financial interests--at considerable cost to myself--in order to be able to come in and function in this capacity and be free of any allegations of conflicts of any kind. ..." (from an interview with him on PBS)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/blackout/interviews/cheney.html
But can you really take his word on anything?

It sounds like the money he is still being paid is money earned before he became president that he opted to have paid to him in later years. Other than the massive amounts of money, it sounds like a teacher who opts to receive monthly checks (even during the summer months) instead of just getting paid during the months they work. Of course getting it paid out in successive years allows him to be a little more creative with his taxes (unlike teachers) but it's not illegal.

While he might not financially gain right now, you can be sure that Halliburton is doing well enough that in '09 he'll be getting exorbitant amounts to come and speak to the employees as a payback.

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jbonkowski Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:32 PM
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14. He doesn't quite get it while in office
Deferred payments while he is in office are supposedly going to charity.

He also has a huge amount of Halliburton stock, in what they are claiming is a "blind trust". The thing is, he gets the stock when he leaves office. So he can do anything he wants in office to drive the stock price up, and then sell the stock when he leaves office.

Even if he's not intentionally rewarding Halliburton to drive the stock up, he still will make huge financial gain as a direct result of his efforts in office. He can't claim "financial ties" are "severed".

jim
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