Rahm Emmanuel's DeFund Cheney Vote only missed by 6 VOTES!

[KoKo]

Just now...it was "fast voted" through. Thomas.org doesn't have vote up yet...but it seemed it was 215 to 209 with some not voting. I had to look at C-Span screen so I might be off but I do believe the "missing by 6 votes is accurate."

GOOD NEWS... A SHOT ACROSS BOW to CHENEY CRIME,INC.!

[Ilsa]

1. Even though the DeFunding lost, that was totally excellent!

That is amazing! I hope someone tells Darth Cheney how close it was.

[KoKo]

3. I'm still digging to find the vote...House did a 2 Minute Vote and it was very fast...

but entering it in US Gov. Thomas doesn't come up with this. Hopefully other Bloggers will get the details. It was exciting how it came up...sort of buried in a full vote...but it was "close" with some not voting...but it definitely is a "shot" at Cheney...more than Bird Shot...a WARNING! Heavy WARNING!

[kirby]

6. Not yet available:

It should be this one, but its not yet entered into the system.

http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2007&rollnumber=596

[KoKo]

12. I've checked CNN/MSNBC...and still can't find it...it's all Immigration Bill all the time...

I'm sure the liberal blog sites will get it soon from their "sources on the Hill."

[kirby]

21. Here is the ROLL CALL

The link in my last post is now active:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll596.xml

(I'm ASSUMING since this is the 'Emanuel of Illinois Amendment', it the defunding measure)

Only 2 Repubs voted for it:

Jones (NC)
and Ron Paul

[KoKo]

35. Thanks Kirby...I've been referencing you downthread..Hope DU'ers will check their Dems

on this just so they can make phone calls. :thumbsup:

[Truth2Tell]

42. WTF?

McDermott and Smith from WA both no? Did they press the wrong button? WTF!!

[Ilsa]

53. "WTF?" indeed! Here was a wonderful opportunity to show those

assclowns that we mean business, and they blew it!

[Ilsa]

52. Oh, how funny! Ron Paul always votes to cut funding, and he did so

here as well! That might actually earn him more votes if people were to find out about it!

[Swamp Rat]

2. It's a start...

at least.

[Horse with no Name]

4. You can't tell me they didn't know the outcome

I don't trust that grandstanding asshole one bit because if you believed his hype-he ALONE is responsible for the Democratic "victory" in 2006. But, I'd bet my bottom dollar he is also responsible for the capitulation to Bush on the funding bill.

[KoKo]

36. Let's look at it this way: Emmanuel was "testing the waters." I can't stand they guy

but...we have to figure he isn't the only one there. This was a Dem vote not to go for blood...but to "test." I hate it as much as you...but they are going slow/fast in the past weeks.

I was surprised that they got it to Roll Call vote since this morning it got shot down with only a "voice vote." Savvy Dems pushed for Roll Call vote to get the NAMES OUT THERE who voted AGAINST IT.

Rahm's looking a poll numbers for Congress and his Dem voters and also the numbers of Dems who are VERY ANGRY. His STUNT proved more fruitfull than I ever thought it would. And, as I said, Rahm and his DLC'ers make me :puke: ...but maybe they are learning.

[KittyWampus]

46. would you direct me to ANY quote from Rahm where he even suggets he alone is

responsible for the Dem victory?

Of course you can't. Because he never did.

Just another Reactionary Screamer, I guess.

[Horse with no Name]

49. Gee if ONLY I could direct you to the several talk shows he was on

Typical non-reactionary DLC supporter, I guess.

[blondeatlast]

5. I NEEDED that today after all the SCOTUS crap. Wow.

That's amazing!

[KoKo]

8. Was Surprised, too! Thought it would be DOA! They did a Voice Vote this a.m. with not many on

House Floor but a member called for a Recorded Vote later in the day. I was in and out but kept checking both C-Span and CNN and Wolfie around 4:00 p.m said the House will be voting soon on the Bill about VP Cheney...so I figured it was on.

Then I caught just the last of the vote and didn't have pencil to record those "not voting" but I think what I saw is accurate... You know how hard it is to look at C-Span Screen when you just walked in and are doing other things and didn't think you'd catch something IMPORTANT!

I'm still hoping that bloggers or someone will have the breakdown of the vote. The key is those "not present/not voting but the numbers I saw are Impressive no matter how it's spun. :shrug:

[depakid]

7. LOL. The gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again!

The party "leadership" really has become a charactiture.

At this point, you just have to laugh....

[babylonsister]

9. Isn't it moot because he's rejoined the exec branch? nt

[KoKo]

24. It was a vote calculated to show Cheney...he's NOT ABOVE THE LAW...

And, the first vote was voice vote so Dems managed to get it pushed to late afternoon for Roll Call Vote...to get the Repugs and Dems and abstainers ON RECORD.

Problem is...I can't yet get the record of the vote because even though CNN just reported that the vote went down they didn't show the close margins.

I'll find the vote eventually. Just wanted folks to know...I wouldn't have caught the second vote if I hadn't just walked in and was channel surfing when it was going on.

IT WAS CLOSE! That's GOOD! That they had TWO VOTES is GOOD! They now have a record for Cheney Impeachment and what they have to do to get FULL VOTE...if it comes to that...is what I'm saying.

[Canuckistanian]

10. And I missed the lottery by two numbers

What's your point?

These things will ALWAYS lose by a few votes. This one just came closer than most.

The votes just AREN'T THERE for any kind of real progress.

[KoKo]

11. Why are you attacking me asking "what's my point?"

:shrug:

[Horse with no Name]

13. I read it as being a rhetorical question

Not one directed at you.

[KoKo]

16. No...I posted what I saw as the VOTE which was Closer than most would imagine...

how could you imagine that as "rhetorical?" :crazy:

[Horse with no Name]

19. His statement was rhetorical

I don't believe it was directed at you figuratively, but you generally.

[Canuckistanian]

14. I'm just saying

6 votes or 20 votes, motions like this will never pass.

I just don't believe that the outcomes of votes like this aren't known in advance by party whips or party leaders. If it got REALLY close we'd hear about it in advance.

I expressed this sentiment even before the vote.

I just don't see the reason to get excited about it.

[KoKo]

15. Six Votes is not close? n/t

[Horse with no Name]

17. Not any more than reading the last page of a book first

Then pretending to be surprised when you actually get there.

[Canuckistanian]

20. A bit of an uncomfortable margin, that's true

Every vote has it's "statistical" uncertainties, but like good bookies, the leaders know the winners and losers in advance.

And when was the last time you ever heard a majority or minority leader EVER express surprise at the result of a vote?

[KoKo]

18. Just this morning Repugs said they had VOTES to Pass Immigration Bill....what happened?

Seems somebody miscounted really badly. I don't think more than 16 Repugs voted for that Bill. WAY OFF.

:shrug:

[Canuckistanian]

25. And who made that statement? McConnell? Lott?

Those are the only two who make it their business to know who's voting how.

Assuming they had their count right, then yes, there was a a huge mistake. It doesn't happen often.

[KoKo]

32. Yes...and surely the Repugs know how to "count votes" by this time!

:eyes:

[KoKo]

22. How can you compare your purchased gambling bet to Emmanuel's House Vote?

You've gotta be kidding with this.

[Canuckistanian]

29. Sorry about my response, but I'm just a bit more cynical than you

Do you have any idea of all the horse trading that goes on behind the scenes?

Votes are 'traded' on a regular basis. And they have NOTHING to do with individual consciences.

Yes, I'll vote for this IF you vote for my amendment later.

NO, my constituents won't allow me to vote for THIS bill, but I'll make it up to you later.

NO, my party leader says to vote no on this one, even though I agree with the motion.

And so on and so on....

[KoKo]

34. Oh...I understand this...but go down on thread to see how close actual vote was..and whose arms

could have been twisted... I keep saying...it was a WARNING to CHENEY...It's CLOSE ...DARTH...BEWARE we are COMING AFTER YOU...giving you ONE MORE CHANCE before we do Criminal Charges to back up those subpoenas you say you aren't going to answer!

POST #23 KIRBY...for the final List and Names of the Yea's/Nay's and not voting or not present!

[Canuckistanian]

39. Oh, I see

I apologize... that's a vote to take notice of!

Almost straight party line, with the exception of Jones and Paul.

[KoKo]

44. But Dems have "comfortable majority" in House...unlike Senate where we have

so many traitors like Landrieu and Lieberman..

[KittyWampus]

48. Tell that to all the Reactinary Screamers on DU who want Impeachment please

[kirby]

23. Only two republicans backed it! 24 Dems (incl Murtha) opposed!

Yes 209 No 217 Not Voting 11

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll596.xml

Only Jones (NC) and Ron Paul voted for it.

24 Dems voted against it!!! MURTHA was one!!!!

[KoKo]

26. I get from this it lost by 8 votes with some not voting...

Thanks for posting...I've been trying to find it.

[KoKo]

27. Vote was within 1% of Passing if only Five of Dems had voted for it YES would have passed..by

214 to 212...so we need to do some work on those Dems who voted against it. Look at how close! Warning shot...

[KoKo]

30. My NC House Members voted with Rahm...and one is a DINO!

GOOD ON THEM...those phone calls and faxes WORKED!

[KoKo]

31. THANKS for THIS VOTE TALLY!...DU'ers should CHECK to SEE HOW THEIR REP VOTED!

I just checked and three of mine in my area voted with Rahm! Good on THEM!

[KoKo]

28. Nancy and Steney could have passed this with a little arm twist...BUT

they held back wanting it to be a WARNING...not go for the throat and blood ...yet. Do I agree with this stalling...no...but I see what they were doing. It was CLOSE ENOUGH...for warning.

[Cameron27]

33. This warning can only help Waxman and Leahy, I love it.

It was close enough to get a :thumbsup:

[Imagevision]

51. KOKO thanx- the list shows the repugs are more together then the Dem's

dem's in other elections just aren't united, how Cheney got their support is mind-boggling but payola
(in one form another) speaks for itself.

[Hawkeye-X]

37. I see John Salazar voted NAY

One of the 24 Dems.. time to find a challenger to the Salazar dynasty - his brother Ken is one of the Gang of 14 and needs to be tossed on the street.

(He's not my rep, DeGette is, and voted correctly)

Hawkeye-X

[KoKo]

38. Salazar, and the usual suspects....but it's time to get on our "reluctant Dems." n/t

[mmonk]

40. A shot?

sheeessssh.

[Olney Blue]

41. Maryland reps van Holland and Wynn voted "Yes"

:)

[Imagevision]

43. This is pathetic, these guyz are untouchable... Bush family obviousdly has the clout...

[KoKo]

45. Did you look at the vote? n/t

[Imagevision]

47. Where's the list of Dem's who voted against Emmanuel??

[KoKo]

50. Hit this link...It breaks the vote down to Dem/Repug and Not Voting:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll596.xml